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Zelensky: 700,000 soldiers defending Ukraine now.
President Volodymyr Zelensky said in a televised interview on May 21 that 700,000 defenders of Ukraine are fighting all across the country, Ukrainska Pravda reported. |
I think so too Herod, but at what cost, we should have given them long range weapons to destroy their artillery thus protecting their towns and troops who must be under a murderous onslaught holding the line, I also think we should have provided jets, I still cannot see any reason why not, what is the Difference between giving the tanks or aircraft.
As I said when it kicked off the west should have sent in NATO peacekeepers to assist, in reaction to Russia claiming they were sending theirs.. the whole bloody war would have been thwarted.. |
Originally Posted by ex-fast-jets
(Post 11233377)
In the mid-90's, I spent 6 months in Sarajevo on a UN assignment on behalf of HM Govt.
I fear to say that some of the other countries represented there were painful to deal with. France, Germany and `Spain to name three. Denmark, Sweden and other relatively minor nations were fantastic. And I have to say that Denmark in particular was brilliant in its dealing with genocide and graves for victims of the atrocities. I attended one exhumation in a small village - and it was a memorable event for all the wrong reasons. The major contributions to the resuscitation of Bosnia/Herzogovina were - in my opinion - by the UK and the USA. Ukraine will be a very different challenge when/if Russia leaves anything there. |
Again… again?
Ukrainian troops say they destroyed a Russian battalion tactical group. The group was liquidated while attempting to cross the Siversky Donets river near the village of Serebryanka in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine’s 30th Mechanized Brigade said. |
I was wondering if the Ukranians have tried using RC “toy” cars/trucks as mobile claymore mines? Easy to conceal in the underbrush ready to dash out towards a passing enemy. Some of them are fast, have good range and large enough to carry a hefty load which, detonated under an armoured vehicle or amongst dismounted troops, would cause considerable damage. Even just a few would, if successful, give the Russian hordes something else to worry about.
Thought about today watching TV and saw a kid using one. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11233435)
Again… again?
Ukrainian troops say they destroyed a Russian battalion tactical group. The group was liquidated while attempting to cross the Siversky Donets river near the village of Serebryanka in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine’s 30th Mechanized Brigade said. |
Kids from #Mariupol arrived in the volunteer center. Smart & nice. Asked if they should share sweets. After a few swallows of water asked if could drink entire glass. Telling ab hometown, one boy replied: "There's no town left". His brother added "But the sea is still there..."
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If at first, you don't succeed, bleed, bleed, bleed, again.... :ugh: |
Further to our discussion on the efforts to move Ukraine's grain:
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A tale of one Thales and how their equipment subject of an embargo since 2014 is turning up in all of the newer Russian kit.
and another German porkie comes to light unearthed by the German Press https://news.storyua.com/news/19759.html |
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11233611)
Totally agree.
https://twitter.com/Podolyak_M/statu...CyqcX8urQqAAAA https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8e97606d6.jpeg Appeasing tyrants only emboldens them further. Have we learned nothing from history? |
Originally Posted by albatross
(Post 11233476)
I was wondering if the Ukranians have tried using RC “toy” cars/trucks as mobile claymore mines? Easy to conceal in the underbrush ready to dash out towards a passing enemy. Some of them are fast, have good range and large enough to carry a hefty load which, detonated under an armoured vehicle or amongst dismounted troops, would cause considerable damage. Even just a few would, if successful, give the Russian hordes something else to worry about.
Thought about today watching TV and saw a kid using one. |
Originally Posted by Herod
(Post 11233406)
Gentlemen; this thread is rapidly becoming music to Mr P's ears. Let's lay off slagging other countries and being downbeat about the result. As for negotiating, I suspect Zelensky's final line is "you get out of Ukraine or we will, over time, grind you down."
The West is still united,albeit some giving more than others. Perhaps the arms being held back will prove very useful on the Finnish/Russian border. Call me a deluded optimist, but I still believe that Ukraine is going to win. My understanding of the Ukrainian position is that ALL Russian gains in Ukraine must be relinquished - including those of 2014. President Zelensky frames ultimate victory as the result of terms which will be set following the battlefield victory. This is a wise approach which shows attention to detail and an uncompromising attitude. Strength and resolve. Strength and resolve...it would be good to see more evidence of that from Germany. With regard to helping the defenders of Ukraine. |
A very good read as to why Ukraine can win and counters those that disagree.
https://kyivindependent.com/national...the-situation/ |
Originally Posted by ICATQ
(Post 11233268)
It’s almost as if Germany is not too keen to upset their Russian friends too much.
Bet they would come running back for ‘assistance’ if there was a Barbarossa in reverse! And Germany can't refuse towards NATO to supply armament. So, yeah, just a little contribution towards Ukraine. |
Originally Posted by baron_rouge
(Post 11233272)
This has enabled Slovakia to give its S300 system to Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/NATO/status/1527656545403666433 |
Originally Posted by etudiant
(Post 11233345)
...... That assumption may be in error, as the 'break the back' comments of the US Defense Secretary suggest that a clear defeat of the Russian invasion is the US/NATO objective.
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Originally Posted by Expatrick
(Post 11233396)
I am afraid you are reading it correctly.
And the compromises necessary? Ukraine split in half? |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11233415)
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As I said when it kicked off the west should have sent in NATO peacekeepers to assist, in reaction to Russia claiming they were sending theirs.. the whole bloody war would have been thwarted.. |
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