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Russia would have no money to respond to any NATO buildup, especially after sanctions and without most hard currency income. This is why they try to scare the west into submission. A bit like a poor man's China approach.
What did work best during the Cold War: Power language, this for that, credible counter-threats and quiet business, trade and credits. It was fun to see the US reactivating the 56th Artillery Command at Mainz the other day. This is the language needed. |
He’s clearly been on the Krokodil…
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Intrigued to read that up fair number of Jews of eastern European descent have upped sticks from Israel and moved to Ukraine since 2014, in light of the security situation in the former (out of the pan..?). I wonder if the resulting connections between the two countries could facilitate access to Israel's military production?
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1978558.html
But in an interview with The Spectator, Mr Wallace said Ukraine “is not a member of Nato so it is highly unlikely that anyone is going to send troops into Ukraine to challenge Russia”.“We shouldn’t kid people we would. The Ukrainians are aware of that,” he added, in comments carried by The Times ahead of the interview’s publication. Asked if that meant Ukraine was on its own, Mr Wallace said: “We can all help with capacity building but to some extent Ukraine is not in Nato and that is why we are doing the best diplomatically to say to Putin don’t do this.” |
Originally Posted by Jackonicko
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If war starts it won’t be because Putin had a grand plan for the invasion of Ukraine, it will be because some field grade commander got stroppy and events spiralled out of control…..
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As the blushing Bride asked ; How big will it get ? How long will it last ?
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Originally Posted by ORAC
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Let there be war….
“This is fantasy geopolitics. Putin is living in the USSR past. If he wants to be taken seriously he must engage with the reality of the present which is that Nato has enlarged,” a European diplomat said……. |
Oh look, an ad of a hockey game from the 80's with CCCP jerseys.
Wait, no, it's an ad of a game being played today, 19th Dec 2021! The Russians are now REALLY nostalgic of the USSR era. And this is not just nostalgics, Putins interest is very much in ice hockey and now they've harnessed sports to their Great Russian propaganda purposes as well. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5640a1a552.jpg |
The Soviet Union failed. So why do they dream to get it back?
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Originally Posted by Less Hair
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The Soviet Union failed. So why do they dream to get it back?
It's the idea that the USSR won the WW2 (not allies, the USSR did it from their point of view), the USSR went to space, the USSR was a feared global power, the USSR had the ultimate hockey team and so forth. The collapse of the USSR was a relief to all the former soviet countries except for Russia. Putin couldn't care less for communism, but he wants to be remembered next to Stalin as the one who made Russia great again (Pun intended). Btw, I am currently watching the game and they really are wearing those CCCP jerseys. And the Russian Army choir sang the national anthem, just like in the "good old days". |
But in an interview with The Spectator, Mr Wallace said Ukraine “is not a member of Nato so it is highly unlikely that anyone is going to send troops into Ukraine to challenge Russia” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budape...ity_Assurances |
Ahh but quoting not part of NATO deflects people from picking up on the fact we do have a responsibility to them.
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Regarding the Budapest memorandum; Belarus is offering to host Russian nukes.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...be2f6139ef6f4b To make it short, Putin wants to leave his mark in history but he realizes that his days in the leadership are coming to an end sooner than later (he is turning 70) so he has to act soon. He pushes the western world with Ukraine and demands something he can't achieve (NATO withdrawal from sovereign countries and a quaranteed circle of interest). Who blinks first? If NATO agrees, the entire treaty goes down the toilet. If Putin backs up, he's losing his face and he will not become the modern day emperor of Russia so he is not standing down. Both scenarios are scary to say the least. Putin may well believe in MAD, but I'm not so sure of Lukashenka... |
Press reports today that intelligence chiefs have advised the PM that Russia will invade Ukraine on Xmas Eve.
However, It has pointed out that 25th December is the 30th anniversary of the dissolution of the USSR, and we know how Putin feels about that and reclaiming the lost territories. If you want to set your watches the flag of the USSR was lowered outside the Kremlin on 25th December 1991 and replaced by the Russian flag at 7:32pm as Gorbachev left for the last time….. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11158571)
Press reports today that intelligence chiefs have advised the PM that Russia will invade Ukraine on Xmas Eve.
However, It has pointed out that 25th December is the 30th anniversary of the dissolution of the USSR, and we know how Putin feels about that and reclaiming the lost territories. If you want to set your watches the flag of the USSR was lowered outside the Kremlin on 25th December 1991 and replaced by the Russian flag at 7:32pm as Gorbachev left for the last time….. |
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The news the other night had poignant times in history and 30 years ago in 1991 the USSR was dissolved, I wonder if this is his anniversary move, he does seem to be playing on anniversaries of the collapse of the Soviet Union..
The Soviet flag was lowered on the 25th and Russia emerged on the 26th https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissol...e_Soviet_Union |
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