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RAFEngO74to09 24th Feb 2022 15:57


Herod 24th Feb 2022 16:00

It seems China is distancing itself from this. Xi is no fool. Cunning and ruthless, yes, but not certifiably insane.

Beamr 24th Feb 2022 16:01

GO 4th RRB! You can do it! :ok:

henra 24th Feb 2022 16:06


Originally Posted by beardy (Post 11189559)
I think that we are witnessing the beginning of the end of Russia as a relevant power in the world. They may well have enormous reserves of gold, but what use is that if it can't be spent outside their borders? Who will deal with them now either financially or politically, both of which require an element of trust? Putin has destroyed that and failed diplomatically, has resorted to the only means left to him; force. He has backed himself into a corner.

That's it, game over for Russia in the international community.

I do agree. He falls into the same trap he laid out for Lukaschenko not long ago and will end as Chinese slave.

Usertim 24th Feb 2022 16:07

The western media is so behind this.

Already Russian force are in east side of Kherson city , North of dniper river

WhatsaLizad? 24th Feb 2022 16:11


Originally Posted by Usertim (Post 11189567)
My friend in Kherson says that russian force already crossed the dniper 1 hour ago

I have zero military experience but would be interested as to why the Ukrainians wouldn't damage/destroy the bridges to slow down the Crimea northbound advance in order to buy some time? I understand the Russians might have the fording ability even if the bridge crossings were blocked.

Thank you.


NutLoose 24th Feb 2022 16:18

They need to go further worldwide, ban all Russian passport holders from travel outside the Country, cancel all Russian Visa's.

NutLoose 24th Feb 2022 16:24


China rejected calling Russia's moves on Ukraine an ‘invasion’ and urged all sides to exercise restraint, even as it advised its citizens there to stay home or at least take the precaution of displaying a Chinese flag if they needed to drive anywhere
I hope the average Ukrainian is taking the hint.

RAFEngO74to09 24th Feb 2022 16:27


bspatz 24th Feb 2022 16:32

In view of current events should MOD now be reviewing its planning assumptions that assume there will not be a high intensity war and reverse some of the more contentious decisions such as running down the Herc force and reducing the size of the army?

RAFEngO74to09 24th Feb 2022 16:43


There were photos earlier of some pretty poorly equipped and demoralized POWs

Usertim 24th Feb 2022 16:44


Originally Posted by NAROBS (Post 11189627)
Funny, haven't seen any SPGs, Tanks or APCs marked "Z" or "V" BBC . . .CNN . . . Reuters, AP, AFP.

N

That is nice ! . Now knowing how shy you are have you balls to defend? I am just europe ,putin is making russia china vassal for next 200 years Hey he got a big Yacht . Good on him!


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RAFEngO74to09 24th Feb 2022 16:46

Aeroflot banned from the UK by PM.

RAFEngO74to09 24th Feb 2022 16:47


WB627 24th Feb 2022 17:09


Originally Posted by NAROBS (Post 11189638)
Or the happy Oxyacetelene boy cutting-up those T1 Hawks. Could have been gifted to Ukraine together with contract pilots. N.

What happended to the ex Rock Ape Rapiers that the Army has recently replaced?

dead_pan 24th Feb 2022 17:15

The ongoing action at Hostomel does give an insight into clunky Russian tactical nous. Daylight insertion, apparently unsupported, air support pretty much absent etc.

Another thought - where's the triple A? It would have been a turkey shoot if the defenders had access to it.

Also, some early Ukrainian successes will give them cause for hope, that they can bog the advances down. Question is, how then will Vlad respond?

Final thought - those Russian PoWs look like hairy assed teenagers. I'm guessing conscripts.

NutLoose 24th Feb 2022 17:17

They really need to burst his bubble, he is obviously gambling on this


On the other hand, G7 leaders condemned Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and said that Russian President Vladimir Putin had “reintroduced war on the European continent.”

“We condemn President Putin for his consistent refusal to engage in a diplomatic process to discuss European security issues, despite our repeated offers,” a statement issued after a G7 meeting read.
At the same time, Putin assured that Russia would remain part of the world economy.
Given that it remains a part of it, we do not intend to harm a system of which we feel we are a part,” he said.

The Russian president also said that the Russian authorities are preparing for what is happening in terms of sanctions policy. At the same time, he urged the Russian business community to deal with the current situation with understanding and to work with the Russian government to support Russia’s economy.

https://www.tylaz.net/2022/02/24/put...had-no-choice/


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