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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 30th Oct 2022, 22:49
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Given the lack of repair resources the easiest way to disable the vehicle is just pour a gallon of water in the fuel tank Won't look like sabotage but will definitely screw up the works.
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Old 30th Oct 2022, 22:53
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Water is what you need in fuel. Fuel floats on it when settled and engines feed from the bottom of the tank.
Likely would be a water drain under the fuel tank - much like an aircraft. Bit hard to drain sand.
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 00:24
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Originally Posted by Flying Binghi
Likely would be a water drain under the fuel tank - much like an aircraft. Bit hard to drain sand.
An interesting question. Diesel engines do (generally) have a water separator so you'd have to dump a in lot of water (of course, I'm not sure about Russkie diesels). So what's easily available for troops in the field that they could do to an engine to disable it and not be caught? Sand down the intake? Sand in the oil fill? Potato up the exhaust (joke)? Cut an oil line (tough to disguise)? Water in the oil? 'Accidentally' drain the oil and replace the plug? Dump the electrolyte from the battery? Punch a hole in the radiator (could be a bullet)? Crack a fuel rail and hope for a fire? Cut the throttle linkage and assume there are no mechanics? Arrange for full throttle and hope for diesel run away? Punch holes in some of the tires (assuming not a tracked vehicle)? Pull out the tire valve stems (need to dismount the tires to repair)? Loosen some bolts in the drive train (wrench required)? Remove transmission drain plug (again, wrench required and evidence on ground)? Add water to the gearbox? Add sand to the gearbox?

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Old 31st Oct 2022, 00:53
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Replacing the oil drain plug with a candle stub is supposed to be effective.
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 02:02
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Originally Posted by Chu Chu
Replacing the oil drain plug with a candle stub is supposed to be effective.
Since this method is hardly going to be inconspicuous concerning spilt oil, why replace the plug at all ?
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 02:05
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Originally Posted by Winemaker
An interesting question. Diesel engines do (generally) have a water separator so you'd have to dump a in lot of water (of course, I'm not sure about Russkie diesels). So what's easily available for troops in the field that they could do to an engine to disable it and not be caught? Sand down the intake? Sand in the oil fill? Potato up the exhaust (joke)? Cut an oil line (tough to disguise)? Water in the oil? 'Accidentally' drain the oil and replace the plug? Dump the electrolyte from the battery? Punch a hole in the radiator (could be a bullet)? Crack a fuel rail and hope for a fire? Cut the throttle linkage and assume there are no mechanics? Arrange for full throttle and hope for diesel run away? Punch holes in some of the tires (assuming not a tracked vehicle)? Pull out the tire valve stems (need to dismount the tires to repair)? Loosen some bolts in the drive train (wrench required)? Remove transmission drain plug (again, wrench required and evidence on ground)? Add water to the gearbox? Add sand to the gearbox?
I can see you've given this a lot of thought
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 02:29
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Originally Posted by Sue VÍtements
I can see you've given this a lot of thought
Well, actually, yes! It's pretty simple to use all sorts of exotic methods to ruin an engine, but if you don't want to be caught in the field, with minimal resources, not so simple. I pity the poor sods out there and hope they can get home safety, although I doubt they will. It's interesting to see comments from the suddenly nominated soldiers where they say they want to save Russia et al and that they are patriots who want to kill all the Ukrainians, but......
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 02:58
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Theres whole youtube channels on it, I believe one of the best things for screwing an engine was bleach into the oil
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 03:27
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Russian investigators believe the high-speed crash of an Su-30SM fighter jet in Irkutsk on 23 October may have been due to the aircraft's oxygen system malfunctioning, causing the two crew members to suffer a fatal case of hypoxia. Thread ⬇️

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...538979328.html

When even the air you breathe is against you, it might be time to consider a career change. Not the first, not the last...
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 03:34
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
"Russian troops chaotically flee from the Kherson region, trying to evacuate wounded soldiers. They crash their BTR, presumably with many casualties."
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/15...0e7Bw7MxB76J_w
A back massage by a BTR is going to leave a bruise or two. Fine line between expediency and a bad day out driving.
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 05:05
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Says it all

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Old 31st Oct 2022, 05:21
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Ukraines TB2 drones will now carry Air to Air missiles.

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Old 31st Oct 2022, 08:11
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Ukraines TB2 drones will now carry Air to Air missiles.



https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...Cy_bX5mIUsAAAA
So when does a drone become a pilotless aircraft? Looks close to that already. Looking at this "Drone" it's little more than a scaled down Pucara.
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 08:12
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Should be interesting.

The UN seems to have organised a grain convoy from Ukraine across the Black Dea, now that Russia has withdrawn cooperation. Lots of Russian sites urging an attack - covert or otherwise.

If anything happens, will those forces supporting the UN stand aside?

Russian channel Starshe Edda calls to sink any ships carrying grain through the Black Sea in light of so-called "Russian ban" after Russian blew up its own ships yesterday. Similar sentiment in other channels.
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 08:15
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Originally Posted by rattman
Theres whole youtube channels on it, I believe one of the best things for screwing an engine was bleach into the oil
Hand grenade with rubber bands in the fuel tank works wonders I'm told.
A low cost alternative is a cellotape ball in the fuel tank. The petrol dissolves the glue leaving a small section of cellophane ready to block the inlet. If you take the tank off to flush the tape tends to cling to the side.
It's really annoying and causes random failures that are hard to diagnose. Ask me how I know!
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 08:31
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Originally Posted by Winemaker
An interesting question. Diesel engines do (generally) have a water separator so you'd have to dump a in lot of water (of course, I'm not sure about Russkie diesels). So what's easily available for troops in the field that they could do to an engine to disable it and not be caught?
One of my uncles was evacuated from Dunkirk in 1940, and I remember him saying they were removing the breeches from all the artillery once they ran out of ammo, and threw them into rivers or the harbours etc., and vehicles all had their sump plugs removed, letting the oil drain out, while someone sat revving the nuts off the engine until the engine seized solid.
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 09:02
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Petrol in the diesel tank or vice versa seems to cause havok.
Ask my wife! 🙄
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 09:21
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Originally Posted by TURIN
Petrol in the diesel tank or vice versa seems to cause havok. Ask my wife! 🙄
Wow, presumably Mrs T doesn't read this thread too often... but if she does can you make sure that her response is not taken as an Article 5 event...
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 10:11
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Fancy issuing these.


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Old 31st Oct 2022, 10:35
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The effect of a M30A1 missile that contains 182,000 tungsten fragments on a truck apparently. It has even penetrated the leaf springs!

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