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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 1st Nov 2022, 08:45
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Russia now evacuating the left (east) bank of the Dnipro in Kherson…..

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Old 1st Nov 2022, 08:57
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Originally Posted by Winemaker
Off topic, aviation content, but reflective of the Russian approach to weapons development. The story of the 'development' of the first Russian jet, the MIG-9, with some interesting referrals to the barriers to success and the way the Russians just sort of pushed ahead, ignoring problems and not testing.
Be mindful that not long before the Mig 9 flew that Patton had been pushing for continuing eastward into Russia. I’m sure the Russian higher command had knowledge of Pattons thoughts. The push to have an anti-bomber aircraft for the Allies to consider were likely the reason for just getting the Mig 9 up there - worry about it working later.

The Mig 9 is certainly a nice aircraft to look at. The wing outline reminds me of something? I reckon it would make a lovely little scaled down kit built..
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Kerch Bridge Update: Minister of Transportation Savelev says that 250 light cars on average cross the bridge per hour.

Heavy cargo is being sent via occupied land corridor from Rostov oblast (7.5k trucks since Oct 8).

Only 16 train pairs have been sent across the bridge so far
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Russian TG Helicopterpilot just confirmed that was Russian helicopter of PMC Wagner.
He wrote that one of the crew survived (injured).

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Originally Posted by Flying Binghi
Be mindful that not long before the Mig 9 flew that Patton had been pushing for continuing eastward into Russia. I’m sure the Russian higher command had knowledge of Pattons thoughts. The push to have an anti-bomber aircraft for the Allies to consider were likely the reason for just getting the Mig 9 up there - worry about it working later.

The Mig 9 is certainly a nice aircraft to look at. The wing outline reminds me of something? I reckon it would make a lovely little scaled down kit built..
(Could it be that the Mig 9’s similar - if anything can be!- to the Saab 29 Tunnen ? The Mig wing isn’t swept but , though I’m probably alone , it put me in mind of the Saab. An ungainly looking aircraft which apparently did way better than it looked as though it would. I have always liked it )
Sorry all for drift...

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Russia now evacuating the left (east) bank of the Dnipro in Kherson…..
What's behind that move? Are they indeed intending to flood the area?
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Originally Posted by FUMR
What's behind that move? Are they indeed intending to flood the area?

Or they have a complaint from OH&S on the hearing loss of their troops from all of the ruckus raised to the West of that point. As even Russia is not stupid enough to drown their own troops, seems like a reasonable precaution to take. If they blow the dam, they also get to be responsible for the subsequent 2500 tons of fuel being turned into the largest nuclear disaster in history. Vlad gets his name in the books for that one. There is about 30 years worth of fuel rods in the spent rod cooling ponds, and they are going to lose coolant. At least they won't set off a H2 pop, it'll just be 2500 tons of meltdown of corium to the water table to mess up the Black Sea and Mediterranean water table. What could possibly go wrong with that?
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Dog in the manger

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Or they have a complaint from OH&S on the hearing loss of their troops from all of the ruckus raised to the West of that point. As even Russia is not stupid enough to drown their own troops, seems like a reasonable precaution to take. If they blow the dam, they also get to be responsible for the subsequent 2500 tons of fuel being turned into the largest nuclear disaster in history. Vlad gets his name in the books for that one. There is about 30 years worth of fuel rods in the spent rod cooling ponds, and they are going to lose coolant. At least they won't set off a H2 pop, it'll just be 2500 tons of meltdown of corium to the water table to mess up the Black Sea and Mediterranean water table. What could possibly go wrong with that?
Putrid is in full on Dog in the Manger mode now. If I can't have it you won't either. Remind you of anyone of Austrian origin with initials AH?
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Not known if it is real as not verified, appears to be the Admiral Makarov in harbour burning / smoking


AVIATION CONTENT

The downed Russian Heli on the ground.

https://twitter.com/UkraineRussia2/status/1587152890191400967?cxt=HHwWjsC-gaDJ2YYsAAAA

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Not known if it is real as not verified, appears to be the Admiral Makarov in harbour burning / smoking
Initially I thought it may be lying low in the water, bow up, but if you look of pics of the vessel in happier times its evident it does feature a pronounced bow.

Given Russia's response its evident the Ukes did quite a bit of damage in their attack. Its a funny old game - the Ukes have some success (Moskva, Snake Island, the Kerch bridge, now Sevastopol), and Putin responds with an attack (usually one-off, rather than sustained) on some civilian infrastructure.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Not known if it is real as not verified, appears to be the Admiral Makarov in harbour burning / smoking

https://twitter.com/UkraineRussia2/s...Czxa3awocsAAAA

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That's one of the landing ships lost earlier in the year.

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Originally Posted by NutLoose
The downed Russian Heli on the ground.
That'll buff ou...ahhh, probably not his time.
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Ukrainian aerospace company Motor Sich president, Viacheslav Bohuslaev, sabotaged transfer of helicopters to🇺🇦Armed Forces - Prosecutor General

Bohuslaev ordered to dismantle of helicopters so that pilots couldn't use them.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/11/...rces/?swcfpc=1
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I see they still use ww2 foot wraps, have they not heard of thermal socks..


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To which most British squaddies would say, snap……

Russian TV report about mobiks of the elite Kantemirovskaya division who were placed in molded emergency barracks.
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Mi 2 helicopter found in an Odesa freight container to be handed over to the military, Probably will end up as a spares ship in my opinion as they still operate them..

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Superb PR again from Ukraine.

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Wokkafans,

Would in not make better fieldcraft to assemble your demolition devices ahead of time so all you would have to do is place them, arm them, and beat feet rather than what is shown in the vide?
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Never leave a man behind..

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Originally Posted by Winemaker
The Mig 9
That was interesting, and if nothing else an organizational culture case study of some quality as regards aviation.
"To land, you have to shut off the engine, no waveoff / no go around!" (Yikes!)
"Well, the problem of actually using the guns remains ..." (That one reminds me of some of our supersonic aircraft that had odd weapons-release anomalies back in the 50's and 60's.
There are any number of other acquisition programs, in a variety of places, that have similarly curious stories. But that is its own topic.
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