British Airways vs. BASSA (Airline Staff Only)
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all seeming to be full throttle departures, as the few other a/c departing were far quieter and LOWER than the BA a/c.
BASSA bless 'em, never let the truth get in the way of a good story, must be one of Duncans new ones.
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I just LOVE those full throttle departures!! 
I'm sure BA stopped boarding all those passengers and keep the planes on the gate to await the tweeet that Woodley had arrived...
I'm sure BA stopped boarding all those passengers and keep the planes on the gate to await the tweeet that Woodley had arrived...
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Are people forgetting that the next CEO has already been announced? Current Chief Financial Officer Keith Williams will take over as CEO when Willie moves on to head up International Airlines Group (i.e. BA + IB).
Do people really think that the person who currently controls the airline's finances will decide that actually these savings don't need to be made anymore?
(Views above are my own, not those of my employer)
Do people really think that the person who currently controls the airline's finances will decide that actually these savings don't need to be made anymore?
(Views above are my own, not those of my employer)
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Willies departure
I am fairly sure I heard him say he was due to start his new position on 1st Jan at the presentation today, although I was listening over a video link and it wasn't too clear.
It was in response to a three part question from a shareholder sat in the audience at Waterside.
It was in response to a three part question from a shareholder sat in the audience at Waterside.
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Didn't the guy with the first question at Willie's forum today ask if it was true WW was leaving his post on 18th June?
WW replied, first I've heard of it - then said something like - "1st January actually".
But that's not really news.
What gets me with this personal campaign is that even if WW said this evening "sod it, I'm off", KW would carry on with exactly the same stance.
Would the union then denounce him and similarly demonise him too?
Mind you - KW does a good "death by Powerpoint".
A couple of hours of that and you'd agree to anything.
Surely contravenes Geneva conventions somehow.
WW replied, first I've heard of it - then said something like - "1st January actually".
But that's not really news.
What gets me with this personal campaign is that even if WW said this evening "sod it, I'm off", KW would carry on with exactly the same stance.
Would the union then denounce him and similarly demonise him too?
Mind you - KW does a good "death by Powerpoint".
A couple of hours of that and you'd agree to anything.
Surely contravenes Geneva conventions somehow.
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Duncan Disorderly
" Quote from Duncan, "For example - he said yesterday that 2000 BASSA members have left because of the recent strikes.
Only one person knows the exact figure and that is me. I checked this morning and since Jan 1, 568 members have stopped paying into the payroll, so Walsh is lying."
I think he was very clear that he said 2000 members have left unite, these are not just cabin crew, but unite members from other departments who are appalled that unite will not stand up to BASSA
Im backing BA
Only one person knows the exact figure and that is me. I checked this morning and since Jan 1, 568 members have stopped paying into the payroll, so Walsh is lying."
I think he was very clear that he said 2000 members have left unite, these are not just cabin crew, but unite members from other departments who are appalled that unite will not stand up to BASSA
Im backing BA
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I can't believe that BA don't know in which departments the 2000 people who've left Unite work.
I assume they're sitting on the number of how many of them are cabin crew and that they'll release them when they can be used most effectively.
I assume they're sitting on the number of how many of them are cabin crew and that they'll release them when they can be used most effectively.
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I can't believe that BA don't know in which departments the 2000 people who've left Unite work.
I assume they're sitting on the number of how many of them are cabin crew and that they'll release them when they can be used most effectively.
I assume they're sitting on the number of how many of them are cabin crew and that they'll release them when they can be used most effectively.
What i do KNOW is that the 5 people who were members of UNITE before Christmas in my team have all resigned. We're not a heavily unionised department as it happens but those who are/were in UNITE are very disapointed with the union.
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Some protection? BA will not let current crew sit at home not being used whilst paying them, whether through MTP or any other form of payment. If you actually believe it, I don't know what to say. Nobody can guarantee long-term protection because things change but allowing New Fleet to go ahead it would be to sell ourselves down the river.
HiFlyer14
The strike is working. Why else would BA go to court again? WW claims 75% of rostered crew have reported for duty. Amusing as the flight schedules have not been increased. Who else would be included in these 75% do you think? VCC, ICC, temporary crew and crew rostered for SEP and such possibly?
I'm glad you don't have any regrets for reporting for duty during the strike. I don't have any regrets for NOT reporting for duty. I would do it again and I have no intention, unless the strike is called off, of getting anywhere near CRC for some time. June 10th at the earliest.
demomonkey
There is a cause. I never would have gone on strike, and lost both ST and hundreds of pounds, if there hadn't been a cause. Neither BA or BASSA are innocent. They have both made huge mistakes in the past but I have very little in faith in BA which I why I have chosen to support my union.
Chuchinchow
I don't know. I guess you would have to ask BASSA!
Some protection? BA will not let current crew sit at home not being used whilst paying them, whether through MTP or any other form of payment. If you actually believe it, I don't know what to say. Nobody can guarantee long-term protection because things change but allowing New Fleet to go ahead it would be to sell ourselves down the river.
HiFlyer14
The strike is working. Why else would BA go to court again? WW claims 75% of rostered crew have reported for duty. Amusing as the flight schedules have not been increased. Who else would be included in these 75% do you think? VCC, ICC, temporary crew and crew rostered for SEP and such possibly?
I'm glad you don't have any regrets for reporting for duty during the strike. I don't have any regrets for NOT reporting for duty. I would do it again and I have no intention, unless the strike is called off, of getting anywhere near CRC for some time. June 10th at the earliest.
demomonkey
There is a cause. I never would have gone on strike, and lost both ST and hundreds of pounds, if there hadn't been a cause. Neither BA or BASSA are innocent. They have both made huge mistakes in the past but I have very little in faith in BA which I why I have chosen to support my union.
Chuchinchow
This beggars belief! I wonder how many other "actions" were taken by BASSA "out of boredom"?
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Amusing as the flight schedules have not been increased.
I have very little in faith in BA which I why I have chosen to support my union.
but allowing New Fleet to go ahead it would be to sell ourselves down the river.
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Willy was on fine form today at the employee forum, confident in his action and proud of those backing BA, for the first time he mention figures, 875 crew turned up for work today, about 75%, he announced increased flights being operated for the remiander of this week, and a full 70% from next week.
When he said the strikers would not get there ST back, he got a round of applause. He did not sound to me like the "desperate man" that BASSA portray.
Now what do you read into this, he said he would have enough crew to operate 100% after the strike, regardless of how many strikers were back at work !!!!!
I`m Backing BA
When he said the strikers would not get there ST back, he got a round of applause. He did not sound to me like the "desperate man" that BASSA portray.
Now what do you read into this, he said he would have enough crew to operate 100% after the strike, regardless of how many strikers were back at work !!!!!
I`m Backing BA
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MissM
The strike is working. Why else would BA go to court again?
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Bridchen wrote earlier:
There's an awful lot on this forum about cabin crew going into work because of loss of pay and ST. That just isn't true! I'm actually down route and haven't had to go into work opposing the strike (although I would have still gone in) because my roster didn't put me in that position. Many crew, and all of my friends are opposing the strike because we are anti - BASSA. I'm down route but resigned my BASSA membership because I don't believe in them any more. Do we actually have your support, or are you just anti-cabin crew?
I want an end to this action. I support BA. I'm not anti any BA employee who is working for the good of BA. How many of you are with me?
I want an end to this action. I support BA. I'm not anti any BA employee who is working for the good of BA. How many of you are with me?
We ALL want an end to this action, only one person can do that - walsh.
BTW - The thousands at Bedfont today ALL support BA and in a much bigger way than most who make comment on this thread.
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Originally Posted by Juan Odeboyse
BTW - The thousands at Bedfont today ALL support BA and in a much bigger way than most who make comment on this thread.
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Betty Girl wrote:
Just completed two days of flying. All my flights were full. Carried two Prem pax who both said thanks to me and my crew for flying through the IA. I can't tell you how lovely it is at work during this IA. All the crew are happy and relaxed. On non strike days there is a large elephant sitting in the briefing room and on the plane, and every one knows it is there but nobody can talk about it! During the strike it has been great. Lots of dedicated caring crew who are coming to work because that is what we are paid to do. We are all free to discuss the IA and we all agree that BASSA has gone completely mad.
Passengers get off and hold your hand and say thank you. It is really strange but uplifting.
I am working because this is a pointless strike and will achive nothing. I can assure all you striking crew, that the CRC was full and more flights will be operated next week.
The union is lying to you all.
Passengers get off and hold your hand and say thank you. It is really strange but uplifting.
I am working because this is a pointless strike and will achive nothing. I can assure all you striking crew, that the CRC was full and more flights will be operated next week.
The union is lying to you all.
So I ask you Betty Girl - what do you think is the reason why thousands of your colleagues are taking this action and standing firm in the midst of serious bullying by BA mangement, I ask as from what you have said, I do not think you have a clue as to what is actually going on around you.