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Great turnout today at Bedfont today many new faces and a great feeling amongst the crowd that the little man is getting desperate. We can be proud we are standing up to the little bullying chap called William. I hope the vols are enjoying being used and being used they are what price dignity.
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Back from a Eurofleet trip with a full crew. Handed over by/to two full crews as well! Not a VCC anywhere in sight. I did overhear a conversation in CRC of a crew member I know fairly well who was on strike last time but "I've done my bit so I've come in because I need the cash!" My crew manager said she had taken two calls from amongst her team of crew who wanted to know what incentive they had for coming to work; would they get their staff travel back if they came in this time? She politely pointed out that the incentive was that they'd get paid! Unsurprisingly they both later reported!
WW needs do nothing but wait. At this rate BASSA can cancel BFC and hire a tennis court for next week.
WW needs do nothing but wait. At this rate BASSA can cancel BFC and hire a tennis court for next week.
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Originally Posted by Juan Odeboyse
standing firm in the midst of serious bullying by BA mangement
glad to brighten your day up!
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Watersidewonker or is it NJR?
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we are standing up to the little bullying chap called William
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So Holley is the one lying, isn't he?
why not visit Bedfont FC yourself and speak to Duncan face to face, he is there virtually all of the time.
In fact an open invitation to all and find out for yourselves the true feeling of the CC. Its a very welcome place, the smile on the burger van owners' face is the biggest, new large marquee at the back (thats where you will find the samosas) and a friendly bunch of CC to answer all of your Q's.
Seriously though think about visiting and speaking to any there as to what we feel/ think this is all about.
PS Forgot to mention free whistles in a box by the coffee bar!
Today yes friutbat. I had to park in the field along the road and I was in the 12th line of parked cars, with many more having arrived after me. What with all pickets totally manned, battle bus continually touring, the place was still heaving. Speaking to some press that were there, they said they were impressed by the turnout and the passion of the many there.
"outbursts" gatwickba...where are the outbursts in the comments you have copied. I thought facts were being stated - but then again in the eyes of some that is a sackable offence - sad really.
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Thanks to all CC who have been coming to work, also all VCC and not forgetting those backfilling the VCC to ensure they can be released.
My department has put projects on hold or go slow and the delays will ultimately be costing the company money but it's all hands to the pump to protect the company who pays the wages for all of us, not just the striking few.
My department has put projects on hold or go slow and the delays will ultimately be costing the company money but it's all hands to the pump to protect the company who pays the wages for all of us, not just the striking few.
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Latest from the big bedfont house
Well, today was totally different from yesterday. Obviously because of the appearance of Tony and Derek there was a huge crowd which was great because these guys need to see the support for the strike remains as strong as ever and I know they were impressed. I also know that Tony was quite moved by the couple of minutes private chat he had with a few who were there who have been sacked. I also think, after today's performance, Derek has a future career at the London Palladium, but don't twitter him to tell him!
I know a lot of you get very frustrated by UNITE's apparent old-fashioned ways but I do feel both men must have been touched by the rally today. The banter, the jokes were crew at their charming best. I was watching from the top of the bus - it looked fabulous and the cameras caught the mood.
The day started quite well for me when I turned up at the club house and was presented with a load of XXXX cakes. Thanks to the baker. But after 5 minutes all went a bit sour when a photographer wandered in and said he was from the Daily Mail. Needless to say he was dispatched with a flea in his ear and a Foxtrot Oscar instruction. He won't be coming back.
It was so heartening again to see more Bedfont virgins ie first time strikers. It was also good to see people who had worked in the initial days of the dispute who were now having trouble sleeping and had decided this time "not to show". You are all welcome - it is not too late to repent. The BASSA Bedfont church is a very rowdy one but also a forgiving one.
But, one of the reasons I want to come onto this forum tonight is to pay my respect to the commuters out there, particularly those who are not British. I have been so impressed at how brave you people are. You may live in another country, which you would think would make it easy to turn your back on this very British strike - but no, not only have you joined the strike but you have done it knowing that your commute to work will now be arduous, expensive and in some cases almost impossible.
In recent days so many "British born" crews have told me at Bedfont how much they respect the many Europeans commuters who have given up so much more than them and how that makes them feel so sad that crew living in London or nearby have come to work so they can still keep their staff travel for holidays.
Can I say that we British born crew owe all you Europeans (and Americans etc) a massive debt of gratitude. Your presence in our airline has enriched us all and now you are showing us the way to be brave.
The commuters who use staff travel are the ones that have been hardest hit; it would have been understandable if many had chosen the easy option and gone to work, but the fact that you haven't has really filled me with pride and humility. I really do salute you - and next time you see me at Bedfont - mine is a San Mig!!!!
There were a lot of journos there today and I spoke to most. They were so impressed at the camaraderie and the friendliness. But that's cabin crew for you. It came as no surprise to me.
I speak for all the reps - It is a privilege to represent every godamn (XXXX) one of you.
Rgds Duncan
And to the person who told me I had put on weight today - please ignore this message it does not refer to you.
See you all tomorrow.
I know a lot of you get very frustrated by UNITE's apparent old-fashioned ways but I do feel both men must have been touched by the rally today. The banter, the jokes were crew at their charming best. I was watching from the top of the bus - it looked fabulous and the cameras caught the mood.
The day started quite well for me when I turned up at the club house and was presented with a load of XXXX cakes. Thanks to the baker. But after 5 minutes all went a bit sour when a photographer wandered in and said he was from the Daily Mail. Needless to say he was dispatched with a flea in his ear and a Foxtrot Oscar instruction. He won't be coming back.
It was so heartening again to see more Bedfont virgins ie first time strikers. It was also good to see people who had worked in the initial days of the dispute who were now having trouble sleeping and had decided this time "not to show". You are all welcome - it is not too late to repent. The BASSA Bedfont church is a very rowdy one but also a forgiving one.
But, one of the reasons I want to come onto this forum tonight is to pay my respect to the commuters out there, particularly those who are not British. I have been so impressed at how brave you people are. You may live in another country, which you would think would make it easy to turn your back on this very British strike - but no, not only have you joined the strike but you have done it knowing that your commute to work will now be arduous, expensive and in some cases almost impossible.
In recent days so many "British born" crews have told me at Bedfont how much they respect the many Europeans commuters who have given up so much more than them and how that makes them feel so sad that crew living in London or nearby have come to work so they can still keep their staff travel for holidays.
Can I say that we British born crew owe all you Europeans (and Americans etc) a massive debt of gratitude. Your presence in our airline has enriched us all and now you are showing us the way to be brave.
The commuters who use staff travel are the ones that have been hardest hit; it would have been understandable if many had chosen the easy option and gone to work, but the fact that you haven't has really filled me with pride and humility. I really do salute you - and next time you see me at Bedfont - mine is a San Mig!!!!
There were a lot of journos there today and I spoke to most. They were so impressed at the camaraderie and the friendliness. But that's cabin crew for you. It came as no surprise to me.
I speak for all the reps - It is a privilege to represent every godamn (XXXX) one of you.
Rgds Duncan
And to the person who told me I had put on weight today - please ignore this message it does not refer to you.
See you all tomorrow.
Been busy since I got back form leave (2000 emails), but some things don't change, juan Odeboy whatever still coming out with his one liners, still refusing to answer questions
cos lets face it he does not know the answers, after all juan your not a BASSA member
FYI
Short haul flights are not being stood up, because there is little point at this late stage. The selling window is just too short.
The company planned on operating 16x 747 per day this week, they achieved 24 today excluding freighters, some went empty with just crew but in most cases the company now have a 48 hr plus selling window plus extra freight.
Miss M, your info is well out of date, BA are not going for another injunction, that's yesterdays news, the least you could do is keep up
75% of crew required to report today(excluding VCC and those crew downroute) turned up today, oh dear BASSA, and to think the hot gossip on the picket line today for the 30 or so that turned up (it was cloudy after all) was that WW was going to resign..........muppets
standing firm in the midst of serious bullying by BASSA, hey Juan do they know your eating all the xxxx cakes and your not even a member
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I haven't felt bullied by anybody, striker, non-striker or management.
I feel Unite by leaving itself open to court actions and using unnecessary imagery to further their cause was reprehensible.
Unite should have kept it's mouth shut over the bullying allegations and then backed the company when it reinstated those who no case was found and sacking those where bullying was proven.
Unite has proved itself incompetent as a union and failing it's members by appearing childish in it's dealings.
Time for a new union. Somebody who represents it's members in a dignified,proper and professional fashion.
I feel Unite by leaving itself open to court actions and using unnecessary imagery to further their cause was reprehensible.
Unite should have kept it's mouth shut over the bullying allegations and then backed the company when it reinstated those who no case was found and sacking those where bullying was proven.
Unite has proved itself incompetent as a union and failing it's members by appearing childish in it's dealings.
Time for a new union. Somebody who represents it's members in a dignified,proper and professional fashion.
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Sorry Bees Knees but you have got it all wrong.
Tonight I want you to think back to the start of walsh's time at BA and realise that since then we have been on a slippery downward path. In the morning hopefully you will have realised that just ONE person has torn our family apart so much and the sooner walsh goes the better for us all.
Tonight I want you to think back to the start of walsh's time at BA and realise that since then we have been on a slippery downward path. In the morning hopefully you will have realised that just ONE person has torn our family apart so much and the sooner walsh goes the better for us all.
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Posted by: Juan Odeboyse in post 3856
I'm not in Bassa but am on strike so what does that say to you Bridchen?
I'm not in Bassa but am on strike so what does that say to you Bridchen?
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you obviously do not know Duncan.
Not holding my breath for an honest answer
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Juan, if you're not a member of the union you can't be part of the strike (i.e. be protected legally). So technically you must be absent without due cause and therefore liable for disciplinary action. If I were you I'd turn up at your next report and keep your head down and hope BA don't notice and think you were one of the strikers who gave up and came back to work naturally. Otherwise how else can you survive a disciplinary should BA find out?
Even if you joined BASSA at 8am tomorrow, you were technically in breach of contract prior to this. Probably a good idea to stop reading so much BASSA propaganda too, what other trouble have they got you into?
These are my personal opinions, not those of my employer.
Even if you joined BASSA at 8am tomorrow, you were technically in breach of contract prior to this. Probably a good idea to stop reading so much BASSA propaganda too, what other trouble have they got you into?
These are my personal opinions, not those of my employer.
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Juan,
I understand you don't like Willie but do you really think he has all the power you say he does? And that if he went then BASSA would get everything it asked for and the world would go back to the 'good ole days'?
He's just the front man for the board's wishes, and if it wasn't him it would be someone else......as you will find out when Keith takes over and follows the same line.
I'm sorry you aren't happy with your lot, but we've all (well most of us) made sacrifices and I for one will be very unhappy if I subsequently lose my job due to cuts made to keep you in yours at your current Ts and Cs
I understand you don't like Willie but do you really think he has all the power you say he does? And that if he went then BASSA would get everything it asked for and the world would go back to the 'good ole days'?
He's just the front man for the board's wishes, and if it wasn't him it would be someone else......as you will find out when Keith takes over and follows the same line.
I'm sorry you aren't happy with your lot, but we've all (well most of us) made sacrifices and I for one will be very unhappy if I subsequently lose my job due to cuts made to keep you in yours at your current Ts and Cs