British Airways - CC Industrial Relations Mk VI
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OMG! Must admit that this is getting hideously scary now! BTW Just would like to ask, when CC89 was set up, did BASSA do the same dirty tricks as they are now doing to PCC?
I am genuinely quite concerned now. The venom I have heard pour out of some crew's mouths about these pilots, ground staff etc volunteering and the names etc are actually concerning. I hope these people are dealt with by BA as this attitude is toxic to the working environment at BA - which as most employees would agree with me is, usually at least, pleasant. I am very worried about volunteering incase my name will be texted around. Will this list be open until a strike takes place or do I need to put my name on now does anyone know?
Any of you Flight Crew (or anyone else that may be reading this for that matter) I know you are proud of volunteering and, good for you you shouldn't be ashamed to wanting to feed your family and still have a job and protect your pension. BUT please please please be careful who you mention that you are volunteering to. I know most of you are not stupid, (well I think anyway!) but regardless of that some of my colleagues' attitudes are very selfish at the moment: they want people to respect the right to strike, but they don't respect the right to cross a picket line. Go figure!
Like a few posters have mentioned in the past, volunteering is not a decision I take lightly, neither is voting No really, as of course I want to safeguard my T&Cs and am worried of the future, but I am more worried of a strike damaging the airline. I obviously do worry that maybe others are right - will voting Yes be a message. Then I think, well it might be, but then WW looks like he will let a strike proceed. Am I willing to strike? When the airline has made a loss. I do feel this is such a hard decision! However coming into work will be no party whatsoever. Even though it may be hard and difficult at times, I will support any volunteers as it will not be easy for them either.
Let's hope a negotiated settlement will happen FAST before the ballot even closes! Wishful thinking??
I am genuinely quite concerned now. The venom I have heard pour out of some crew's mouths about these pilots, ground staff etc volunteering and the names etc are actually concerning. I hope these people are dealt with by BA as this attitude is toxic to the working environment at BA - which as most employees would agree with me is, usually at least, pleasant. I am very worried about volunteering incase my name will be texted around. Will this list be open until a strike takes place or do I need to put my name on now does anyone know?
Any of you Flight Crew (or anyone else that may be reading this for that matter) I know you are proud of volunteering and, good for you you shouldn't be ashamed to wanting to feed your family and still have a job and protect your pension. BUT please please please be careful who you mention that you are volunteering to. I know most of you are not stupid, (well I think anyway!) but regardless of that some of my colleagues' attitudes are very selfish at the moment: they want people to respect the right to strike, but they don't respect the right to cross a picket line. Go figure!
Like a few posters have mentioned in the past, volunteering is not a decision I take lightly, neither is voting No really, as of course I want to safeguard my T&Cs and am worried of the future, but I am more worried of a strike damaging the airline. I obviously do worry that maybe others are right - will voting Yes be a message. Then I think, well it might be, but then WW looks like he will let a strike proceed. Am I willing to strike? When the airline has made a loss. I do feel this is such a hard decision! However coming into work will be no party whatsoever. Even though it may be hard and difficult at times, I will support any volunteers as it will not be easy for them either.
Let's hope a negotiated settlement will happen FAST before the ballot even closes! Wishful thinking??
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Hi there,
just volunteered as well. I did so the first around time in December and I am perfectly happy to do it again. I also voted no to IA. If the majority will vote in favor, I will resign my union membership instantly.
I don't want to stand in anyones way and I will respect that my point of view is no longer required within Unite.
I will turn up for work 100%.
There is no way I will put my job on the line for a self serving out of touch bunch of hard headed union people that have not acted in my interest for quite some time.
just volunteered as well. I did so the first around time in December and I am perfectly happy to do it again. I also voted no to IA. If the majority will vote in favor, I will resign my union membership instantly.
I don't want to stand in anyones way and I will respect that my point of view is no longer required within Unite.
I will turn up for work 100%.
There is no way I will put my job on the line for a self serving out of touch bunch of hard headed union people that have not acted in my interest for quite some time.
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Morning all. Yes, I just volunteered as well - anytime, anyplace, anywhere!
Slidebustle you are right - it is getting very scary. However, if you do not volunteer or exercise your RIGHT to go to work during a strike, then that is letting the bullies win. WE MUST ABSOLUTELY STAND FIRM AGAINST THIS ABHORRENT BEHAVIOUR.
If I hear any of the talk that you mention either in a briefing room, on a bus, downroute or anywhere on duty I will categorically refuse to continue to operate with that person. It is a safety issue and we are duty bound to raise it. END OF.
Stand firm, SB. The majority of people want to come to work and don't want a strike. They still think they can "Vote yes and they'll get back round the table" but it won't wash this time. They will have to put their money where their mouths are. This "text message brigade" are a small, repulsive minority in our community. What they don't realise is that they are doing more for the vote no campaign than WW ever could!
I am BA cabin crew and this is my own viewpoint and not that of BA.
Slidebustle you are right - it is getting very scary. However, if you do not volunteer or exercise your RIGHT to go to work during a strike, then that is letting the bullies win. WE MUST ABSOLUTELY STAND FIRM AGAINST THIS ABHORRENT BEHAVIOUR.
If I hear any of the talk that you mention either in a briefing room, on a bus, downroute or anywhere on duty I will categorically refuse to continue to operate with that person. It is a safety issue and we are duty bound to raise it. END OF.
Stand firm, SB. The majority of people want to come to work and don't want a strike. They still think they can "Vote yes and they'll get back round the table" but it won't wash this time. They will have to put their money where their mouths are. This "text message brigade" are a small, repulsive minority in our community. What they don't realise is that they are doing more for the vote no campaign than WW ever could!
I am BA cabin crew and this is my own viewpoint and not that of BA.
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Thanks for posting your comments following my concern a few pages ago about slightly euphoric posts. I was concerned that we were perhaps going down the line of some days ago when this thread had to be closed. I share all your concerns about the atmosphere within the CC community and as someone else has said here, I´m listening rather than saying anything. Not sure that I´d be brave enough to say I wouldn´t operate with some of the vociferous militants - it would need to be very, very bad - but generally I´ve been hearing more than anything that people are fed up with both sides and there has to be a solution. Whether that means they voted yes or no is difficult to tell! I have mentioned the PCCC to some people and that I received a print-out of their first letter in my drop-file two weeks ago but haven´t found anyone else who has admitted to the same.
By the way, there´s a whole road of wig shops in Finsbury Park (just to brighten your Sunday morning)!
By the way, there´s a whole road of wig shops in Finsbury Park (just to brighten your Sunday morning)!
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Hval et all,
Please do not be intimidated by these bullies using the S*** word, they are just cowards, nothing else. Anyone who threatens or bullies shouldn't be employed by BA.
I volunteered to work over Christmas and have done the same this time round. There are more crew who will come to work this time regardless of which way they have voted. As HiFlyer14 said, BASSA are in fact driving the Yes Voters to come to work, should there be a Strike.
I have been in the company for 26 years and having been through strikes previously in 1984 and 1997, I know how you feel. If anyone is worried or concerned please feel free to PM me, you have my total support.
No wigs or disguises for me. I'll come to work as I do everyday, in my uniform, park in the car park and nod to those on the picket line. I have never been intimidated by bullies, and I'm not about to be now.
I'm BA Cabin Crew and the above represent my personal views and not those of BA.
Please do not be intimidated by these bullies using the S*** word, they are just cowards, nothing else. Anyone who threatens or bullies shouldn't be employed by BA.
I volunteered to work over Christmas and have done the same this time round. There are more crew who will come to work this time regardless of which way they have voted. As HiFlyer14 said, BASSA are in fact driving the Yes Voters to come to work, should there be a Strike.
I have been in the company for 26 years and having been through strikes previously in 1984 and 1997, I know how you feel. If anyone is worried or concerned please feel free to PM me, you have my total support.
No wigs or disguises for me. I'll come to work as I do everyday, in my uniform, park in the car park and nod to those on the picket line. I have never been intimidated by bullies, and I'm not about to be now.
I'm BA Cabin Crew and the above represent my personal views and not those of BA.
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Don't worry, am not intimidated. I thought it worthwhile letting people see the bullying, harassment etc. From BASSA supporters.
This will not be tolerated by the police, by BA, nor by the public at large
Hval
Don't worry, am not intimidated. I thought it worthwhile letting people see the bullying, harassment etc. From BASSA supporters.
This will not be tolerated by the police, by BA, nor by the public at large
Hval
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The wig mention was just some light hearted relief!
I have also signed up though I am now concerned to see that on another forum there are people talking about signing up to sabotage the trawl. I wish the ´opportunity´ hadn´t been described as such, hadn´t been targeted using the ´Backing BA´campaign and hadn´t mentioned staff travel concessions. I believe the more down-beat pre-Christmas ESS mail approach might have been more appropriate.
The above represent my personal views and not those of BA.
I have also signed up though I am now concerned to see that on another forum there are people talking about signing up to sabotage the trawl. I wish the ´opportunity´ hadn´t been described as such, hadn´t been targeted using the ´Backing BA´campaign and hadn´t mentioned staff travel concessions. I believe the more down-beat pre-Christmas ESS mail approach might have been more appropriate.
The above represent my personal views and not those of BA.
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Hi all,
if BASSA are saying 8 total suspended, lets get real.. we all know how they love the truth
I would place money on 20 - 30 plus. Now the real concern is that those who have received unsolicited, yet incriminating protected data etc, could well be caught up if they are found to be in possession of material.
Therefore, you MUST report anything to BA! If you tell them, in their eyes you are one of the good guys. If you don't, you may be under BA's microscope yourself.
if BASSA are saying 8 total suspended, lets get real.. we all know how they love the truth
I would place money on 20 - 30 plus. Now the real concern is that those who have received unsolicited, yet incriminating protected data etc, could well be caught up if they are found to be in possession of material.Therefore, you MUST report anything to BA! If you tell them, in their eyes you are one of the good guys. If you don't, you may be under BA's microscope yourself.
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Just a thought, but the 8 reported as being suspended could be in addition to those reps who were reported to have been suspended a while ago, iirc.
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Well, like many of my friends, I have volunteered to come to work during any period of I.A. (I am EF crew). Now on the other forum, they are planning to get everone to volunteer and then not turn up - so the company won't be able to plan anything! I wish these people would see the error of their mis-guided ways!
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Hi BACrewboy. I´ve seen those comments too though now others have started to advise against that thank goodness. Still, I do have my reservations. I wish the ´opportunity´ hadn´t been described as such, hadn´t been targeted using the ´Backing BA´campaign and hadn´t mentioned staff travel concessions. I believe the more down-beat pre-Christmas ESS mail approach might have been more appropriate. However, I´ve signed up!
The above represent my personal views and not those of BA.
The above represent my personal views and not those of BA.
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hval, purposely going onto youtube to stir up sh!t and then coming on here to moan when sh!t is exactly what you get...... 
Also, claiming here that you are not employed by BA and claiming elsewhere that you are and have completed the FA course .... maybe you should sort out your identities before you post again?
Silly games not welcome here.
Also, claiming here that you are not employed by BA and claiming elsewhere that you are and have completed the FA course .... maybe you should sort out your identities before you post again?
Silly games not welcome here.