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It won't be BA that give us a voice, it will be the cabin crew themselves.
They have already started doing that. In droves.
I am BA cabin crew and this is my own viewpoint and not that of BA.
Do you think BA will give you a voice?
They have already started doing that. In droves.
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I do find it amazing that nobody on "other" forums have commented on the statement from the Judiciary yet, regarding Judge Cox. Wonder why??
Gg
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Litebulbs,
I don't see why not.
We are a Council for Cabin Crew working with our employer, not against it. Any Company would welcome that.
We want the best for our Company, Crew and of course our Customers.
I'm BA Cabin Crew and the above represent my personal views and not those of BA.
I don't see why not.
We are a Council for Cabin Crew working with our employer, not against it. Any Company would welcome that.
We want the best for our Company, Crew and of course our Customers.
I'm BA Cabin Crew and the above represent my personal views and not those of BA.
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True. But for that to happen, there is law to overcome. You are talking about de-recognition of Unite. That is roughly 6501 employees willing to join your cause. How many members did CC89 have pre the Amicus T&G merger?
Would it not be easier to do exactly what you are doing, from within Unite? You elect your representatives. The mechanism is already there for your voice, if you do not trust your reps, unless you put the complete blame for where you are at the feet of Unite.
True. But for that to happen, there is law to overcome. You are talking about de-recognition of Unite. That is roughly 6501 employees willing to join your cause. How many members did CC89 have pre the Amicus T&G merger?
Would it not be easier to do exactly what you are doing, from within Unite? You elect your representatives. The mechanism is already there for your voice, if you do not trust your reps, unless you put the complete blame for where you are at the feet of Unite.
Letter in Daily Telegraph
Daily Telegraph letter
(Scroll down on link to find letter)
This appeared in yesterday's DT:-
I have already penned a suitable rebutal to these ignorant comments but if others wish to do so email:-
[email protected]
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This appeared in yesterday's DT:-
Goodbye, cabin crew
SIR – We fill up at the garage, book tickets, check in and bank online. Increasingly we check out our own supermarket shopping (report, January 19).
In each case, trade unions have acquiesced in job losses. So why not
in-flight self service?
Robert Stephenson
Henley-on-Thames, Oxfordshire
SIR – We fill up at the garage, book tickets, check in and bank online. Increasingly we check out our own supermarket shopping (report, January 19).
In each case, trade unions have acquiesced in job losses. So why not
in-flight self service?
Robert Stephenson
Henley-on-Thames, Oxfordshire
[email protected]
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Possibly in other unions. But not in this one. They won't allow it. Ever seen anyone on the BASSA forum say anything opposed to the BASSA stance? Seen the response? Ditto crew forum. You can't speak out - we tried. So it has to be done this way.
Anyway, it's probably better this way. The BASSA name has negative connotations now so clean slate and all that.
We are positive. We are professional. We are new and exciting. We are PCCC.
I am BA cabin crew and the above is my own viewpoint and not that of BA.
Possibly in other unions. But not in this one. They won't allow it. Ever seen anyone on the BASSA forum say anything opposed to the BASSA stance? Seen the response? Ditto crew forum. You can't speak out - we tried. So it has to be done this way.
Anyway, it's probably better this way. The BASSA name has negative connotations now so clean slate and all that.
We are positive. We are professional. We are new and exciting. We are PCCC.
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Have been following this thread with a proffesional interest, work in Ops, not BA or any affiliate ( Now ) but isnt there a law that says if a percentage of the employees want a union/council then the company is obliged to recognise it??
Sure I read that somewhere once in a previous life...anyway, Hope you all can sort this infernal mess out..BA is part of this countrys aviation heritage and it would be a shame to see it all end like this...and quite frankly, it might just go that way...
Sure I read that somewhere once in a previous life...anyway, Hope you all can sort this infernal mess out..BA is part of this countrys aviation heritage and it would be a shame to see it all end like this...and quite frankly, it might just go that way...
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True, but in the end, it is the members that make up the union/council. To be and effective voice, that is what you need and these people are currently members of BASSA/Unite.
It isn't the membership in negotiation/consultation, it is the reps. You could be spending long time reinventing the wheel, when all you need to fix is a puncture.
It isn't the membership in negotiation/consultation, it is the reps. You could be spending long time reinventing the wheel, when all you need to fix is a puncture.
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You could be spending long time reinventing the wheel, when all you need to fix is a puncture.
In that case why not a buy a new car that does not require constant repairs!
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A question for the people doubting the PCCC:
Why is it such a problem for us to have a voice and talk about our opinion? If you don't believe that we have something worthwhile, then surely you don't have anything to worry about?
Why are the union die-hards so worried about us speaking our opinion? Do they feel "threatened"?
Those are genuine questions from me.
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I am BA cabin crew and this is my own viewpoint and not that of BA.
Why is it such a problem for us to have a voice and talk about our opinion? If you don't believe that we have something worthwhile, then surely you don't have anything to worry about?
Why are the union die-hards so worried about us speaking our opinion? Do they feel "threatened"?
Those are genuine questions from me.
Gg
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GG,
If your comments were about anything I have said, then my points have not been made well enough and for that I apologise. I have been talking about the technical issues of getting you and your like mined colleagues heard by BA.
If they were not, then I apologise again for being presumptuous.
If your comments were about anything I have said, then my points have not been made well enough and for that I apologise. I have been talking about the technical issues of getting you and your like mined colleagues heard by BA.
If they were not, then I apologise again for being presumptuous.
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Litebulbs,
My last post was not aimed at anyone in specific. It was a geniune request to the PCCC doubters (they know who they are) as to their reasoning behind their "instant" dismissal of what we're trying to do.
Gg
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My last post was not aimed at anyone in specific. It was a geniune request to the PCCC doubters (they know who they are) as to their reasoning behind their "instant" dismissal of what we're trying to do.
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I have been talking about the technical issues of getting you and your like mined colleagues heard by BA.
As I said earlier, the problem isn't about the technical issues of getting heard by BA. It's more about the spin from BASSA and the opposition we face from them and their die hard members.The one thing I have experienced in my many years with BA is that they're aways willing to listen. More than BASSA/UNITE has ever done.
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Posted by Watersidewonker
Hong Kong based crew win court case once again shame on you BA
Hong Kong based crew win court case once again shame on you BA
