British Airways - CC Industrial Relations & Negotiations
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It is a good gesture of the flight crew to refuse jumpseats - BUT - I know of at least three commuters who have voted NO and they will be affected if they start getting being refused jumpseats.
UNITE said that staff travel would have to be looked into to see if it is contractual - a long process - have they started?
If you have a Commuter Pass - are you protected?
UNITE said that staff travel would have to be looked into to see if it is contractual - a long process - have they started?
If you have a Commuter Pass - are you protected?
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Re the video. Is the bloke with the glasses Len Mclusky? If so why are these poeple always from Merseyside. Derek Hatton springs to mind. Is Malone in the country and as a previous poster suggested will the hmrc be monitoring or will she scuttle back to LAX and lead from the Back.These people are priceless. How can you sit on a podium spouting 7os miltant tripe and commute to work from LAX to watch tv in an office without seeing the irony of it by hijacking of whatever ideology suits your protectionism.Your being asked to help on a service for christ sake.What goes around comes around Malone.
I wouldnt worry about the CC turning up for a strike. They cant even make the lobby for dinner unless our offering free Primark vouchers as well.
On a serious note it is laughable that they have the barefaced cheek to present themselves as the hard done by willing to negotiate group. How can the CC follow such a bunch of deluded or lying, or both, t0ssers down this path.They are basically lying. The earlier release basically said lgw contract is crap but they wanted it but there is no way were having it...oh no dahling.
The lawyer said they cant sack you as they will immediately qualify for unfair dismissal EH??? If your not dismissed why do you qualify for it.As for that topic its been done to death on here.
Unfortunately the streotype cc has the ascendancy and that is of the huffy, hissy fit camp,light on the loafers drama queens or selfish botx infested windsor witches with a slim grasp on anything except soaps and x factor. That is a shame as they dont represent the majority of BA CC. They do everyone else a disservice.
As the speaker said he has been involved in many strikes. Lokking at him good work if you can get it. Utterly utterly enraging.I am seething with annoyance at these muppets and I no longer work there.
Ill come in for free cross any picket line eye to eye with these t0ssers and take great pleasure in watching them fail.Give me and people like me temporary contracts for a month and Ill do it for free.
willie I hope you give them a total drubbing.
I wouldnt worry about the CC turning up for a strike. They cant even make the lobby for dinner unless our offering free Primark vouchers as well.
On a serious note it is laughable that they have the barefaced cheek to present themselves as the hard done by willing to negotiate group. How can the CC follow such a bunch of deluded or lying, or both, t0ssers down this path.They are basically lying. The earlier release basically said lgw contract is crap but they wanted it but there is no way were having it...oh no dahling.
The lawyer said they cant sack you as they will immediately qualify for unfair dismissal EH??? If your not dismissed why do you qualify for it.As for that topic its been done to death on here.
Unfortunately the streotype cc has the ascendancy and that is of the huffy, hissy fit camp,light on the loafers drama queens or selfish botx infested windsor witches with a slim grasp on anything except soaps and x factor. That is a shame as they dont represent the majority of BA CC. They do everyone else a disservice.
As the speaker said he has been involved in many strikes. Lokking at him good work if you can get it. Utterly utterly enraging.I am seething with annoyance at these muppets and I no longer work there.
Ill come in for free cross any picket line eye to eye with these t0ssers and take great pleasure in watching them fail.Give me and people like me temporary contracts for a month and Ill do it for free.
willie I hope you give them a total drubbing.
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I hope a few more Captains refuse jump seats for cabin crew making their way to and from work, they can't have it all ways,
And you are advocating making it more difficult for those cabin crew that ARE willing to work to do it. How does this help exactly?
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... or you could just refuse jumpseats ex-LHR. 
As one of my colleagues pointed out, you've a 75% chance of getting a "Yes" voter. However, chances are there will be a few more spare seats over the next few weeks so jumpseats will be largely unnecessary. I would expect a Staff Travel embargo to be applied fairly shortly anyway.
As one of my colleagues pointed out, you've a 75% chance of getting a "Yes" voter. However, chances are there will be a few more spare seats over the next few weeks so jumpseats will be largely unnecessary. I would expect a Staff Travel embargo to be applied fairly shortly anyway.
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Just emailed the Youtube video to a couple of press people I know at the BBC and Sky.
The stalanist BASSA leadership wouldn't let the media in yesterday, after the backlash caused by crew jumping up and screaming like morons when the sucessful ballot was announced in 2007. They had to backtrack big style after that one...
Hopefully now Sky and the BBC will show them doing it again.. what a bunch retarded lemmings.
Watch the video everyone.. look how apologetic and humble BASSA are at wrecking your christmas...
I wonder if we can get the video on the IFE system before the 22nd?!?!?! Now that would be a laugh!
CB
The stalanist BASSA leadership wouldn't let the media in yesterday, after the backlash caused by crew jumping up and screaming like morons when the sucessful ballot was announced in 2007. They had to backtrack big style after that one...
Hopefully now Sky and the BBC will show them doing it again.. what a bunch retarded lemmings.
Watch the video everyone.. look how apologetic and humble BASSA are at wrecking your christmas...
I wonder if we can get the video on the IFE system before the 22nd?!?!?! Now that would be a laugh!
CB
As a member of a union, having gone through the legal red-tape to get you to a strike, you'll have failed to reach an agreement on an issue, ie T's and C's, you'll be ballotted to see if you're happy to be ballotted on a strike, then through the ballot on taking strike action, standing conference between Chairman and Union boss, then failure to agree, then request for permission to go to strike ballot by the committee who will consider the pro's and con's, then if the majority of members say yes to strike action, then you give 7 days notice of strike action and can strike for as long as you wish from that date as long as you tell the company.
Now, this isn't a 5 minute thing. It takes absolutely months to get to that point. How do i know? because we're goinfg through exactly the same thing in our company and this started over a year ago.
Go on strike without going through the proper channels or not being a union member, then you will be dismissed.
Go on strike wiithout all the boxes being ticked beforehand, you will be dismissed, along with the destruction on the union who leads that action.
You can be dismissed if you strike legally, but you can then claim unfair dismissal from that company.
YOU DO NOT GET PAID FOR ANY DAYS YOU STRIKE!
Some people forget that.
A strike for WW will probably put him out of a job, along with a few others, but what are the options? Not standing up for what you think is right?
Just taking all the crap from the companies that employ us then let them repeatedly decimate the pay/terms and conditions/pensions/etc etc. the list goes on.
Our co. are doing exactly the same thing. We're being balloted now.
Fight for your beliefs or go with the herd and accept what you end up with.
Good luck in the challenge ahead!
Now, this isn't a 5 minute thing. It takes absolutely months to get to that point. How do i know? because we're goinfg through exactly the same thing in our company and this started over a year ago.
Go on strike without going through the proper channels or not being a union member, then you will be dismissed.
Go on strike wiithout all the boxes being ticked beforehand, you will be dismissed, along with the destruction on the union who leads that action.
You can be dismissed if you strike legally, but you can then claim unfair dismissal from that company.
YOU DO NOT GET PAID FOR ANY DAYS YOU STRIKE!
Some people forget that.
A strike for WW will probably put him out of a job, along with a few others, but what are the options? Not standing up for what you think is right?
Just taking all the crap from the companies that employ us then let them repeatedly decimate the pay/terms and conditions/pensions/etc etc. the list goes on.
Our co. are doing exactly the same thing. We're being balloted now.
Fight for your beliefs or go with the herd and accept what you end up with.
Good luck in the challenge ahead!
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Not surprised about the legal action. I would expect this to be the beginning. Expect further action against Unite/BASSA should BA be succesful.
Finncapt,
We were above it until the ballot result was announced. Now we're all vulnerable.
Finncapt,
We were above it until the ballot result was announced. Now we're all vulnerable.
i'd love to know on what legal grounds ba are using to get the strike called off. If the union have done the job correctly there's nothing that ba can do. Now, if the union have forgotten something, not crossed a T or dotted a lower case J, then BA might succeed. How good are BASSA/union legal team involved?
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If they are yes voters that arnt striking youll never know , but if they are working give then the benefit and bury the hatchet. Ba will have them by the short an curlys , or as Im led to believe these days the Hollywood or Brazilian, so personnal revenge would be pointless. Except for the criminal leadership of this mess.
Malone ...Mclusky. What is is with the Irish diaspora. Anyone see a pattern here. Two people of Irish descent being taken on by a real Irishmen over a British Airline. The main rival on english soil waiting in the wings led by another Irishmen. Cromwell wil be turning in his grave. Love it.
(mods its aonly a light hearted aside in a sea of anger)
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In response to Raggyman's post, and i quote:
"A similar thing happened with Ansett in Australia. Their cabin staff wanted stupid pay rises, then went on strike..... In the end less people flew with them cause they were always going out on strike and then they collapsed."
Really? that's news to me, I was AN cabin crew for 9 years, and not once did i go on strike, and to the best of my knowledge nor did my colleagues. As for the supposed strikes causing AN to collapse, wrong again.
Sorry to be off the topic.
RR
"A similar thing happened with Ansett in Australia. Their cabin staff wanted stupid pay rises, then went on strike..... In the end less people flew with them cause they were always going out on strike and then they collapsed."
Really? that's news to me, I was AN cabin crew for 9 years, and not once did i go on strike, and to the best of my knowledge nor did my colleagues. As for the supposed strikes causing AN to collapse, wrong again.
Sorry to be off the topic.
RR