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hi skysista...thanks for the advice..my interviewer was amelita and i think she was arab..she looked like a principal...
...but i dont really like her coz shes really unapprochable...i told her hello how are you??and she was like ok and she said it reluctantly...
she asked me what i was doing now...i told her im working for citibank and then she stared at me and i said im in sales....thats it...!maybe i screwed up coz she asked me if i took a number and i said no..maybe a bit harsh...dont know???maybe i should just keep trying and trying...
are u already with emirates by the way??they are coming to singapore and malaysia..this month and next...! which airline are u with?
...but i dont really like her coz shes really unapprochable...i told her hello how are you??and she was like ok and she said it reluctantly... she asked me what i was doing now...i told her im working for citibank and then she stared at me and i said im in sales....thats it...!maybe i screwed up coz she asked me if i took a number and i said no..maybe a bit harsh...dont know???maybe i should just keep trying and trying...
are u already with emirates by the way??they are coming to singapore and malaysia..this month and next...! which airline are u with?
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Forget being camp/gay with a Middle Eastern Airline. There r hardly any gays with EK, if they got through they tried to be as butch as possible. Sorry for geing brutally honest. Stick with QF and DJ they both love gay CC.
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Ah, yes, Amelita!! She was at all days I went to.... :/
I happened to be standing near the door once when the groups were called in, I held open the door for her and she just looked at me funny... I was thinking "well I'd do that for anyone not just for you" heh...
Yes i got the same vibe from her too, while she seemed nice and was making jokes in the presentation I didn't feel very comfortable with her... the other lady was okay I guess (the 2nd interview day) but would have been better if she didn't stare so much!!
I am not with Emirates currently (hope the remedy that soon
) but I do know a lot of people currently working for them, a few girls I have worked with in the past are with them now.
As for my airline... hmmm check your PMs in the next few days...
Have to agree with onlyemirates, I have heard it can be difficult for those in the gay community to get airline work in the ME, however if it is what you really want and you are prepared to put up with some knockbacks, go for it, why not, gotta be in it to win it. And as suggested if you are a language speaker plenty of opportunity here in Aus... good luck
I happened to be standing near the door once when the groups were called in, I held open the door for her and she just looked at me funny... I was thinking "well I'd do that for anyone not just for you" heh...
Yes i got the same vibe from her too, while she seemed nice and was making jokes in the presentation I didn't feel very comfortable with her... the other lady was okay I guess (the 2nd interview day) but would have been better if she didn't stare so much!!
I am not with Emirates currently (hope the remedy that soon
) but I do know a lot of people currently working for them, a few girls I have worked with in the past are with them now.As for my airline... hmmm check your PMs in the next few days...
Have to agree with onlyemirates, I have heard it can be difficult for those in the gay community to get airline work in the ME, however if it is what you really want and you are prepared to put up with some knockbacks, go for it, why not, gotta be in it to win it. And as suggested if you are a language speaker plenty of opportunity here in Aus... good luck
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"they look for people that interact with all the members of the group, are polite - listen as well as voicing their opinion, grooming, grooming, grooming - again grooming, don't expect to get the job if you don't look like a flight attendant."
Which is Ironic because once you start flying you'll learn very quickly - under the bullying and cajoling from Pursers and SFS, that the best thing to do at all times is keep your mouth shut if you know wht's good for you. In fact they start to hammer that in in training college - tip: when they ask for 'any questions'? That's your cue to keep a lid on it or else.
Many a time have I seen instructors skulking in the shadows writing reports. There seems to be some serious miscommunication going on when the recruiters are looking for a certain spirit in staff and the trainers/seniors seek to destroy that spirit.
Which is Ironic because once you start flying you'll learn very quickly - under the bullying and cajoling from Pursers and SFS, that the best thing to do at all times is keep your mouth shut if you know wht's good for you. In fact they start to hammer that in in training college - tip: when they ask for 'any questions'? That's your cue to keep a lid on it or else.
Many a time have I seen instructors skulking in the shadows writing reports. There seems to be some serious miscommunication going on when the recruiters are looking for a certain spirit in staff and the trainers/seniors seek to destroy that spirit.
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hey there..though i was the only one problems with amelita..
...are the same recruiters always at the same region...then its gonna be amelita again this time ek interview in malaysia and singapore..
...check ure pm skysista!
yeah i agree that ek never takes gay...its an islamic airline..and they are really strict,aren't they?Wonder if the ek recruiters can see through a not so straight men....
...are the same recruiters always at the same region...then its gonna be amelita again this time ek interview in malaysia and singapore.. ...check ure pm skysista!yeah i agree that ek never takes gay...its an islamic airline..and they are really strict,aren't they?Wonder if the ek recruiters can see through a not so straight men....
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would have to agree with onlyemirates...girls get raped here in malaysia frequently...even some guys do!
if u take care about yourself well enough..this things can be avoided...
if u take care about yourself well enough..this things can be avoided...
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Wee tip for you Budgie 73
When voicing an opinion what is looked for both on line and in an interview is how things said.
Its ok to have a view and ask questions but how you go about doing that determines the reaction you get from others. Especially those who are there to guide and lead you.
Dare I suggest you re look at your post for clues at to why you may feel the way you do?
When voicing an opinion what is looked for both on line and in an interview is how things said.
Its ok to have a view and ask questions but how you go about doing that determines the reaction you get from others. Especially those who are there to guide and lead you.
Dare I suggest you re look at your post for clues at to why you may feel the way you do?
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*Cabin Crew are punished for taking more than 5 or 6 sick days a year.
How exactly are they punished? There is an annual entitlement and all are able to avail of it. Perhaps they look into it if more than 5 or 6 days in a row?
With-holding of promotion is what I was talking about. Being stuck in EK economy seems to be enough of a deterrent for many to go to work with a flu rather than use more than 4 or 5 sick days a year. Not good! For them or their co-workers.
Yes they are allowed to use all of the annual entitlement but they are punished with promotion cancellation if they do. You haven't heard of this???
*CC are punished for taking a sick day before or after leave or on a public holiday
This is a company policy regarding holidays unless you have proof you were really ill, such as a visit to the clinic. Too many people have taken the pi55 on this before.
maybe some do take the piss but is this a reason to punish the majority who do not? Why is a day before/after leave any less likely to see the member stricken with a dose of flu or whatever?
How does one prevent illness specifically on Christmas Day or on various Islamic holidays?
And the other point is, there is no re-course for those who really are sick but are punished anyway.
I can't believe you don't see this as a bad management practice.
Are you EK CC management, by any chance???
*CC have recently been enjoying cavity searches by customs after flights
Perhaps a few crew members have stupidly warranted this. There was the issue a while back of the crew smugglink coke under the hats...
Not the TWO I know of who were chosen randomly. Then there's the woman who enjoys groping female crew during "searches".
*CC are called at home if they call in sick and marked absent if they don't answer the phone
Why do you think they do this. Too many people taking the pi55 after a night on the tiles and not reporting in and then spend the day shopping. If you're really that ill you'd be at home.
Hahaha... I like it. So you'd NEVER EVER be down at the clinic seeing a doctor? Or the chemist buying some pills? Or at a friends being looked after?
And if you're sick due to an inner ear infection you're just going to sit around the house for 3 days, right? Ri-iiiiiiiiiiiight.....
*CC fly DUBAI - PERTH (11 hrs + ) and similar sectors with no rest allowed. Reported if they close their eyes or read a magazine while the pax are all asleep
I don't think so, where did you get this fact from?
From other cabin crew. And the way the PER trip is operated is common knowledge and mentioned frequently in "Rumour Busters" on the portal. Seems the Perth flight is a common complaint due to a ficticious concept known as "fatigue."
*CC are off-loaded by pursers for having the wrong shade of lipstick on and marked absent
Possible but I would say in very rare instances. You have the grooming manual. Stick to it, surely can't be that difficult can it. If you can't even put on the right lipstick what you doing in the job in the 1st place?
Fair enough. it's more about the bloody-mindedness of the enforcers. That was the subtle point I was trying to get across. It's a fact that many westerners who take the job end up leaving not long afterward because they can't put up with the way things are done.
Would you prefer the individulas who are looking into taking the job go to Emirates with absolutely NO IDEA of what sort of treatment to expect? Obviously Seaton Approach would.
*CC are encouraged to report each other after flights for just about anything and rewarded for doing so.
As above pretty rare and one that is not good practice unless absolutely necessary.
Nevertheless, it does happen and frequently so. It's a measure of the corporate "culture" of the place. I hope the new-joiners don't mind working in that type of environment.
*There's an EK CC in jail in Dubai because she got pregnant and isn't married
Know the laws before you go to work in a new country. It is illegal to have a baby in the UAE if you are unmarried. You have nobody to blame but yourself for being ignorant of the laws. This has nothing to do with EK.
True, it's nothing to do with EK. True, one should know the laws. But how many people in the UAE DO know all the laws?
How about the traffic laws, for starters? Do YOU know them all? Does ANYone?
And knowing the laws won't stop people doing what comes naturally when you get a young guy and a young girl together.
These youngsters want to join because they think they're going to have a great time. Part of that might involve the birds and the bees, unless I'm mistaken, and "accidents" happen here just like anywhere else. It's just that in most other places you don't end up in the can for ending up in the pudding club.
*CC are leaving by the 100s at the moment and many flights depart under-crewed. Crew strength has been revised down (on some flights) to "make up the shortfall"
This is not good and a reason why you should be encouraging new people to join rather than pushing them away otherwise things will only get worse.
Once again... HAHAHAHA...!! I would say this is a good reason to point out the truths to prospective joiners! You'd rather they find out when they get off the jet in "downtown" Dubai??
Maybe if the problems were fixed, people wouldn't be so desperate to leave???
But EK does nothing to encourage loyalty amongst the rank and file. Admit it.
*Those left are working like dogs. Back to back BOC flights with"shared" rest days suddenly common.
Can't comment.
*morale is at rock-bottom, thanks partially to a letter by the CC manager which shredded their dignity and encouraged seniors to off-load juniors for minor transgressions
The letter was most inapropriate but having it aired in public will hopefully mean that things change.
Hopefully??
*the entire multi-cultural issue causes many divisions within the 100+ nationalities
There will always be cultural issues when many cultures work together. How would resolve this, employ only from certain countries?
Maybe that'd work but they don't seem to think it's a problem.
*Cabin Crew are punished for taking more than 5 or 6 sick days a year.
How exactly are they punished? There is an annual entitlement and all are able to avail of it. Perhaps they look into it if more than 5 or 6 days in a row?
With-holding of promotion is what I was talking about. Being stuck in EK economy seems to be enough of a deterrent for many to go to work with a flu rather than use more than 4 or 5 sick days a year. Not good! For them or their co-workers.
Yes they are allowed to use all of the annual entitlement but they are punished with promotion cancellation if they do. You haven't heard of this???
*CC are punished for taking a sick day before or after leave or on a public holiday
This is a company policy regarding holidays unless you have proof you were really ill, such as a visit to the clinic. Too many people have taken the pi55 on this before.
maybe some do take the piss but is this a reason to punish the majority who do not? Why is a day before/after leave any less likely to see the member stricken with a dose of flu or whatever?
How does one prevent illness specifically on Christmas Day or on various Islamic holidays?
And the other point is, there is no re-course for those who really are sick but are punished anyway.
I can't believe you don't see this as a bad management practice.
Are you EK CC management, by any chance???
*CC have recently been enjoying cavity searches by customs after flights
Perhaps a few crew members have stupidly warranted this. There was the issue a while back of the crew smugglink coke under the hats...
Not the TWO I know of who were chosen randomly. Then there's the woman who enjoys groping female crew during "searches".
*CC are called at home if they call in sick and marked absent if they don't answer the phone
Why do you think they do this. Too many people taking the pi55 after a night on the tiles and not reporting in and then spend the day shopping. If you're really that ill you'd be at home.
Hahaha... I like it. So you'd NEVER EVER be down at the clinic seeing a doctor? Or the chemist buying some pills? Or at a friends being looked after?
And if you're sick due to an inner ear infection you're just going to sit around the house for 3 days, right? Ri-iiiiiiiiiiiight.....
*CC fly DUBAI - PERTH (11 hrs + ) and similar sectors with no rest allowed. Reported if they close their eyes or read a magazine while the pax are all asleep
I don't think so, where did you get this fact from?
From other cabin crew. And the way the PER trip is operated is common knowledge and mentioned frequently in "Rumour Busters" on the portal. Seems the Perth flight is a common complaint due to a ficticious concept known as "fatigue."
*CC are off-loaded by pursers for having the wrong shade of lipstick on and marked absent
Possible but I would say in very rare instances. You have the grooming manual. Stick to it, surely can't be that difficult can it. If you can't even put on the right lipstick what you doing in the job in the 1st place?
Fair enough. it's more about the bloody-mindedness of the enforcers. That was the subtle point I was trying to get across. It's a fact that many westerners who take the job end up leaving not long afterward because they can't put up with the way things are done.
Would you prefer the individulas who are looking into taking the job go to Emirates with absolutely NO IDEA of what sort of treatment to expect? Obviously Seaton Approach would.
*CC are encouraged to report each other after flights for just about anything and rewarded for doing so.
As above pretty rare and one that is not good practice unless absolutely necessary.
Nevertheless, it does happen and frequently so. It's a measure of the corporate "culture" of the place. I hope the new-joiners don't mind working in that type of environment.
*There's an EK CC in jail in Dubai because she got pregnant and isn't married
Know the laws before you go to work in a new country. It is illegal to have a baby in the UAE if you are unmarried. You have nobody to blame but yourself for being ignorant of the laws. This has nothing to do with EK.
True, it's nothing to do with EK. True, one should know the laws. But how many people in the UAE DO know all the laws?
How about the traffic laws, for starters? Do YOU know them all? Does ANYone?
And knowing the laws won't stop people doing what comes naturally when you get a young guy and a young girl together.
These youngsters want to join because they think they're going to have a great time. Part of that might involve the birds and the bees, unless I'm mistaken, and "accidents" happen here just like anywhere else. It's just that in most other places you don't end up in the can for ending up in the pudding club.
*CC are leaving by the 100s at the moment and many flights depart under-crewed. Crew strength has been revised down (on some flights) to "make up the shortfall"
This is not good and a reason why you should be encouraging new people to join rather than pushing them away otherwise things will only get worse.
Once again... HAHAHAHA...!! I would say this is a good reason to point out the truths to prospective joiners! You'd rather they find out when they get off the jet in "downtown" Dubai??
Maybe if the problems were fixed, people wouldn't be so desperate to leave???
But EK does nothing to encourage loyalty amongst the rank and file. Admit it.
*Those left are working like dogs. Back to back BOC flights with"shared" rest days suddenly common.
Can't comment.
*morale is at rock-bottom, thanks partially to a letter by the CC manager which shredded their dignity and encouraged seniors to off-load juniors for minor transgressions
The letter was most inapropriate but having it aired in public will hopefully mean that things change.
Hopefully??
*the entire multi-cultural issue causes many divisions within the 100+ nationalities
There will always be cultural issues when many cultures work together. How would resolve this, employ only from certain countries?
Maybe that'd work but they don't seem to think it's a problem.
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harsh words but true, really nor for this forum
sorry Toast but if u were a real friend u would not have brought this topic up and mentioned your friend's problem. That would only cause fellow CC to find out who that person is. EK CC have their heads firmly on their heads, they know exactly what to look out for overseas and they are prepared in training for unlikely problems. They are treated like a new member of a family.
As Reenita says....just take care all. Enough of that if it really is your friend stop this subject and give her some peace!
I mean heads firmly on their shoulders
I mean heads firmly on their shoulders
I mean heads firmly on their shoulders
I mean heads firmly on their shoulders
I mean heads firmly on their shoulders
As Reenita says....just take care all. Enough of that if it really is your friend stop this subject and give her some peace!
I mean heads firmly on their shoulders
I mean heads firmly on their shoulders
I mean heads firmly on their shoulders
I mean heads firmly on their shoulders
I mean heads firmly on their shoulders
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Hi,
Can anyone tell me if wearing glasses/contacts is a problem if you wn t to apply?
Also, if successful, do you have to take the accomodation or can you have money towards your own housing instead?
Thanks
Can anyone tell me if wearing glasses/contacts is a problem if you wn t to apply?
Also, if successful, do you have to take the accomodation or can you have money towards your own housing instead?
Thanks
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Karenmarie, I believe glasses are not looked at well (if i remember from what I saw of grooming manual) you cannot wear glasses while flying but contacts ok. So I suggest dont wear glasses to interview (and don't think to wear them before and take them off- because I forgot!!! 
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Also I think after probationary period is over you can apply to live out and get allowance but then you have to pay all your electricity, phone etc.....
)Also I think after probationary period is over you can apply to live out and get allowance but then you have to pay all your electricity, phone etc.....
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marital status
Hi there,
I have noticed on EK online application for marital status you have 'single, married, separated, divorced, widower or widow'.... what happens if you are defacto with partner and child, I guess you have to say single or married? I'm am not single and neither married, wouldn't they just accept this fact?
I have noticed on EK online application for marital status you have 'single, married, separated, divorced, widower or widow'.... what happens if you are defacto with partner and child, I guess you have to say single or married? I'm am not single and neither married, wouldn't they just accept this fact?
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OPen Day at JB
Hi ppl,
Does anybody know if the JB open day in Malaysia is conducted by an agency? How will they conduct it ? Any idea?How many males and females will be selected? Cheers...
Does anybody know if the JB open day in Malaysia is conducted by an agency? How will they conduct it ? Any idea?How many males and females will be selected? Cheers...
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Karenmarie,
Probation Period is 6 months.
Aloyscious,
It is impossible to know how many will be selected. Anyone who tells you otherwise - has no idea what they're talking about. Just try you best. Knowing how many will get through in advance, will not increase your chances, so don't even think about it.
Ciao,
IJWTF
Probation Period is 6 months.
Aloyscious,
It is impossible to know how many will be selected. Anyone who tells you otherwise - has no idea what they're talking about. Just try you best. Knowing how many will get through in advance, will not increase your chances, so don't even think about it.
Ciao,
IJWTF
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Defacto is not a martial status acknowledged in the Middle East.
Children come after marriage.
If you read some of the other threads regarding the Middle East .... "wouldn't they just accept this fact" .... they would certainly not.
Karenmarie
I believe the living out allowance can be applied for after 1 years service / promotion to G1 or if you are married and living with your husband in Dubai.
Apart from getting married, you will only be allocated the allowance if there is the need for vacancies in crew accomodation.
Housing is really expensive in Dubai, most people find it difficult to find decent accomodation relative to the allowance.
Defacto is not a martial status acknowledged in the Middle East.
Children come after marriage.
If you read some of the other threads regarding the Middle East .... "wouldn't they just accept this fact" .... they would certainly not.
Karenmarie
I believe the living out allowance can be applied for after 1 years service / promotion to G1 or if you are married and living with your husband in Dubai.
Apart from getting married, you will only be allocated the allowance if there is the need for vacancies in crew accomodation.
Housing is really expensive in Dubai, most people find it difficult to find decent accomodation relative to the allowance.