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Old 8th Sep 2005, 13:31
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*Cabin Crew are punished for taking more than 5 or 6 sick days a year.

How exactly are they punished? There is an annual entitlement and all are able to avail of it. Perhaps they look into it if more than 5 or 6 days in a row?

With-holding of promotion is what I was talking about. Being stuck in EK economy seems to be enough of a deterrent for many to go to work with a flu rather than use more than 4 or 5 sick days a year. Not good! For them or their co-workers.

Yes they are allowed to use all of the annual entitlement but they are punished with promotion cancellation if they do. You haven't heard of this???


*CC are punished for taking a sick day before or after leave or on a public holiday

This is a company policy regarding holidays unless you have proof you were really ill, such as a visit to the clinic. Too many people have taken the pi55 on this before.

maybe some do take the piss but is this a reason to punish the majority who do not? Why is a day before/after leave any less likely to see the member stricken with a dose of flu or whatever?

How does one prevent illness specifically on Christmas Day or on various Islamic holidays?

And the other point is, there is no re-course for those who really are sick but are punished anyway.

I can't believe you don't see this as a bad management practice.

Are you EK CC management, by any chance???


*CC have recently been enjoying cavity searches by customs after flights

Perhaps a few crew members have stupidly warranted this. There was the issue a while back of the crew smugglink coke under the hats...

Not the TWO I know of who were chosen randomly. Then there's the woman who enjoys groping female crew during "searches".

*CC are called at home if they call in sick and marked absent if they don't answer the phone

Why do you think they do this. Too many people taking the pi55 after a night on the tiles and not reporting in and then spend the day shopping. If you're really that ill you'd be at home.

Hahaha... I like it. So you'd NEVER EVER be down at the clinic seeing a doctor? Or the chemist buying some pills? Or at a friends being looked after?

And if you're sick due to an inner ear infection you're just going to sit around the house for 3 days, right? Ri-iiiiiiiiiiiight.....


*CC fly DUBAI - PERTH (11 hrs + ) and similar sectors with no rest allowed. Reported if they close their eyes or read a magazine while the pax are all asleep

I don't think so, where did you get this fact from?

From other cabin crew. And the way the PER trip is operated is common knowledge and mentioned frequently in "Rumour Busters" on the portal. Seems the Perth flight is a common complaint due to a ficticious concept known as "fatigue."

*CC are off-loaded by pursers for having the wrong shade of lipstick on and marked absent

Possible but I would say in very rare instances. You have the grooming manual. Stick to it, surely can't be that difficult can it. If you can't even put on the right lipstick what you doing in the job in the 1st place?

Fair enough. it's more about the bloody-mindedness of the enforcers. That was the subtle point I was trying to get across. It's a fact that many westerners who take the job end up leaving not long afterward because they can't put up with the way things are done.

Would you prefer the individulas who are looking into taking the job go to Emirates with absolutely NO IDEA of what sort of treatment to expect? Obviously Seaton Approach would.


*CC are encouraged to report each other after flights for just about anything and rewarded for doing so.

As above pretty rare and one that is not good practice unless absolutely necessary.

Nevertheless, it does happen and frequently so. It's a measure of the corporate "culture" of the place. I hope the new-joiners don't mind working in that type of environment.

*There's an EK CC in jail in Dubai because she got pregnant and isn't married

Know the laws before you go to work in a new country. It is illegal to have a baby in the UAE if you are unmarried. You have nobody to blame but yourself for being ignorant of the laws. This has nothing to do with EK.

True, it's nothing to do with EK. True, one should know the laws. But how many people in the UAE DO know all the laws?

How about the traffic laws, for starters? Do YOU know them all? Does ANYone?

And knowing the laws won't stop people doing what comes naturally when you get a young guy and a young girl together.

These youngsters want to join because they think they're going to have a great time. Part of that might involve the birds and the bees, unless I'm mistaken, and "accidents" happen here just like anywhere else. It's just that in most other places you don't end up in the can for ending up in the pudding club.



*CC are leaving by the 100s at the moment and many flights depart under-crewed. Crew strength has been revised down (on some flights) to "make up the shortfall"

This is not good and a reason why you should be encouraging new people to join rather than pushing them away otherwise things will only get worse.

Once again... HAHAHAHA...!! I would say this is a good reason to point out the truths to prospective joiners! You'd rather they find out when they get off the jet in "downtown" Dubai??

Maybe if the problems were fixed, people wouldn't be so desperate to leave???

But EK does nothing to encourage loyalty amongst the rank and file. Admit it.


*Those left are working like dogs. Back to back BOC flights with"shared" rest days suddenly common.

Can't comment.

*morale is at rock-bottom, thanks partially to a letter by the CC manager which shredded their dignity and encouraged seniors to off-load juniors for minor transgressions

The letter was most inapropriate but having it aired in public will hopefully mean that things change.

Hopefully??

*the entire multi-cultural issue causes many divisions within the 100+ nationalities
There will always be cultural issues when many cultures work together. How would resolve this, employ only from certain countries?

Maybe that'd work but they don't seem to think it's a problem.
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