Sergel

Yes, the answers to the questions should be easy find for somebody interested in joining Netjets (apart from the French tax law). I am myself hoping to join NJ in the future, and it took me 10 min to find most answers searching the NJ and PPRUNE webpages.
But still, people dont have to be unpolite. Checklist69 gave a nice and short answer, and people should of left it with that!!

Dont mind a funny comment now and then, but somebody doesnt seem to know where the border goes from being funny to rude..

Flintstone

How on EARTH did you know I'd done that?

You're so clever they should put you in charge here

localiserreborn

Dear all, guess who I am. I am just hoping that the moderators will let at least just this one post to let me voice out my opinion. I have appealed for the ban to be lifted just for that but have not been read or considered. So this is the only alternative that's left to me otherwise it is webjail for the next 6 months.

Anyway, starting at the begining (of course?!?!).

1. Big apologies to everybody I might have insulted and replied to rudely. I take back(if possible) what was said and won't do it again.
2. Those who know me will certainly confirm that I certainly do not have an attitude problem but it is impossible to do that on the web. Stating my hours was only because Margarita started calling me names (young/low hour fellow) . I was just shooting back.
3. Please do not juge people on their posts only as many are specific to the situation they are experiencing and people reading these do not usually know the big picture (as we say) or the exact situation the guy who is posting is in.(This is valid for me as well I guess)
4. To explain my original post: I had been on the Netjets website some time ago (>6months) and at that time they did not have the info I was looking for concerning salaries. When I came back to the web more recently I admit I did not do a google search but I went on pprune through the threads and even did a search here. I did not find the info I was looking for although it might surprise a few of you! I found pages and pages of threads concerning the new conditions but not stating any figures, lots of posts from guys explaining why they want to leave, as many posts from guys saying they are happy and staying, posts about rosters, posts about taxes in portugal v/s in UK and some deal in france but not very clear and explicit, etc etc etc... I therefore, naively, posted my questions knowing some answers would ask me to search pprune (I have seen that happen a few times too). The whole thing ended up like a tennis game with the opponents hitting hard from the back. It was fun to watch and I was starting to enjoy myself too as some answers are so predictable!!!
5. Anyway, thanks for the replies from checklist69 and 2604 who quickly and politelty redirected me to the places I missed and were very helpfull.This was the intent of my original post and I thought that this was one of the aims of PPRUNE as well. Indeed Sergel has a very good point. Also it is difficult to know where humour starts and stops especially for guys like me who's first language is not English.
6. Now from the post by Mike Jenvey, I realise that I should have written "it was not the most convenient means ...", it might have made a small difference.

So thats it for me for now. I want to reassure my ex-future-colleagues at netjets that I do not intend for the near future to change jobs so you won't have to fly with such an arrogant, rude, lazy pilot with an attitude like me. (I can't tell the future though). So stay cool. . I think you guys have a nice job.

Cheers,

Loc


PS: how did I do?

Margarita

No worries, just fine with me. I didn't mean to call you in person for anything. Just pointed out that EUROPE seem to be full of these fellows asking the same questions day after day. Tried to point your interest just 2 inches down where on that time was the very info you were asking.... Sorry to hear your problem with Pprune.
Netjet seem to be a quality employer and they do have hundreds of pilots that are happy for the deal and life style they offer.
All the best!

localiserreborn

I was quite surprised to be banned as well, considering I have seen things 100 times worse about my colleagues on this website, with 99.9% of it false and definitely aimed at damaging reputation. Anyway, if I am allowed to continue with this pseudo I will, otherwise I will talk to you again in 6 months when I am out of pprunejail. Concerning the language, I went to an english school but speak french at home. Anyway, we have a lot of expats in this company and a majority of english speaking fellows.

Margarita,

I found that when people are current on a thread and post on it regularly, they tend to think that everybody has been following it and assume that all info is out there. Unfortunately, it involves reading pages and pages of stuff to get some answers. Anyway, some may call it laziness but it is definitely a shortcut to ask direct questions to get direct answers. I have used the search function several times but I might have the wrong technique as I don't usually get good results!!

Anyway,

All the best to all.

Cheers,

Loc

The Shooter

I have done some homework and checked your posts for the last year (I got sick of it afterwards) and not once have you been welcoming to questions and always told the poor blokes to f... off to a search. You did not seem very helpful to me. And I am sure the other ppruners regular to these threads cannot remember when was the last time you passed on useful information.

By the way, could you PM me with these technical quiz questions you have been passing on to everybody last year??

Scroll Lock

I think what has gotten peoples backs y\up is the constant begging for info on how to get into NJE. Alot of who joined some years ago had no help. We just did.

Stop being so damn lazy. Do a PPrune search. and stop being insulting to other people when they post a nice english sarcastic tongue in cheek reply.

Rant over.

Thanks Scroll Lock; couldn't have said better myself.4HP

Flintstone

"Other PPRuNe regulars"? You've been here a few days!! Oh, the irony. When I've been here as long as you have will I become the arbiter of who should do what?

(Moderators. Where's the 'laughing my @rse off' smiley?)

Why do you think I refer people to the search function? Maybe because after the first five years of answering the same questions I grew tired?

Have you considered whether I even work for Netjets any more?

A very old pilot once said to me "Son. The most dangerous thing in aviation after a junior officer with a map and compass is an untested assumption. A person could make themselves look very stupid acting on one of those".

Sage words indeed

So you searched my posts and found that as well as telling people to f*ck off I also sent them the technical questions to help them pass the selection process? You then conclude "...... and not once have you been welcoming to questions.....".

Just what brand of idiot are you?

4HP. Can we have another troll please? This one's absolute rubbish.

The Shooter

Completely pulled your leg out mate. What a laugh, I love to go fishing when I know I am going to catch a big fish.

No harm meant at all. Stay cool. See you in another world.

Flintstone

Doesn't count as a 'catch' when you've been seen through though, does it? Did you miss the "Can we have another troll please?"

Try again.

youngskywalker

Slight thread creep here so I apologise...

I'm looking for any info on joining the netjets middle east operation?

I have searched the netjets website but it only seems to give pilot recruitment info' for Europe and the USA. As I only have FAA qualifications (British citizen) I can't work for the Europe operation and I can't live in the States.

Does anybody know if you can live in Europe and commute to the middle east if you work for them, or do you need to be based and live there also? I believe they have a roster that is roughly one month on/one month off which is quite appealing to me.

Many thanks for any information

Flintstone

What you hear is right. The NJME roster is 35 on/31 off.

They fly you in and out from wherever you are based. I think on average you spend 40-50% of your time in Saudi, the rest outside the country.

Not sure which position you'd be applying for and I'm slightly out of touch with the pay scales but last I heard the salary for a Falcon 2000 captain was around the $100,000 mark. Per diems are $100, paid in advance. Contract typically three years with a loyalty bonus if you stay the distance.

They also have Hawkers and Gulfstreams. No idea on salaries.

youngskywalker

Many thanks for that. I doubt that I have the experience levels that they would like yet, but no harm in trying I guess.

Flintstone

Last time I had anything to do woth recruitment for NJME the min requirement was 1500 hours.

If you need any more info feel free to PM me.

Kit d'Rection KG

Well, aside from discussing a website with some policies which make the Stazi look like the girl guides...

Really, what is wrong with asking some straightforward questions? No, the answers are not there to be found with a simple search, there being a good deal of imprecision in some discussions.

If you don't want to answer, don’t.

If you want to be helpful, do.

But don't hide behind the pathetic anonymity in a web forum to display behaviour that would get you into trouble at your ‘local’.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again… Kindergarten, kindergarten…

Flintstone

I disagree.

For years now the same questions have been asked. Not surprising as those thinking about applying want to know the same things. Pay, T&C, gateways, progression, fleets and the interview/selection process. There are few if any secrets.

As far as initial enquiries go that just about covers it and I guarantee the answers are in the archives if you can be bothered to look. I know for sure I've answered all of the above more than once.

A bit of initiative also leads to the company website (hardly the greatest contribution to IT I'll agree) which also yields one or two snippets.

Two years ago we would interview up to 30 people a day for three days at a time. The vast majority of those managed to dig up enough information to impress the panel. Why is it wrong to expect others to demonstrate the same degree of initiative?

ginopino

Can somebody give me any infos about the english test and technical quiz ? .....also via PM.....
Thank you very much !!!

localiserreborn

swampthing

Can anybody give an acurate summary of what to expect at the Netjets interview in Farnborough.. i.e type of questions etc.. what was the sim ride like and what is expected of you ?

south coast

Over to you Flintstone.