Netjets (Europe) Interviews - All you need to know about it (threads merged)
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jelida,
If you look through this thread you will find what you're looking for. Also plenty of info on www.netjetseurope.com
Good luck, I'm also SFO on A319 on my second attempt to get in!!!
FT
If you look through this thread you will find what you're looking for. Also plenty of info on www.netjetseurope.com
Good luck, I'm also SFO on A319 on my second attempt to get in!!!
FT
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That's why I asked, I've got the same email after having the phone interview last week. It is positive because it is not a "no" but on the other hand after having waited six months I don't know how much longer I could wait, being without a job since nov 07.
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bArt2,
Thats good to hear, at least things have started to move for you.
Has anyone any experience of mine and bArt2s situation? How long do you expect we will have to wait for an interview date confirmation and how long is the interview from the date you are informed.
Many thanks,
LF
Thats good to hear, at least things have started to move for you.
Has anyone any experience of mine and bArt2s situation? How long do you expect we will have to wait for an interview date confirmation and how long is the interview from the date you are informed.
Many thanks,
LF
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Think twice
Netjets has made its seniority list and bidding policy valid since a couple of days now. So before you decide to go think twice, the next seniority number is somewhere close to 1000. The numbers actually in for a fleet change to the nice aircraft ie Falcon 2000 and upwards are the numbers 180 to 200 ( apparently very reliable source, maybe Smeagel.....) The percentage of those nice aircraft is arround 25% and will remain like this. The aim is to have about 100 of these shinny airplanes by 2016. If you count they need 5 captains per airplane (very optimistic as I think it is less) you have to be within the first 500 to have a shot at the nice jets. So 10+ years on a bravo/Beech 400/ citation are hawker750/800/4000 are now a reality and again the 10 years are optimistic as the average age of the captains is something like between 35 and 40...so think if this is what you realy want, especially the experienced airline guys like me and a lot of others who think(in my case thought) about joining....I by no means say that NJE is a bad company but having a lifetime waiting time for a command on a shinny bizjet makes the company comparable to any major airline except that you do not have the compensation of a major airline (free tickets, nice pension.....etc)
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So does that mean that if you join now with a lot of command hours you will have to wait until the "low hours"-pilots who joined shortly before you have their commands before you move back to the left seat? 
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No.
Command upgrade is worked out on when the individual meets the requirements and is deemed suitable.
So, if a 1500 hour guy joined ahead of a 3500 hour guy, the 3500 hour guy does not have to wait for his friend ahead of him to upgrade before he can.
But, when eventually they are both captains, the guy who joined first will be more senior even though he may have x thousand hours less than the second guy.
Does any of that make sense????
Command upgrade is worked out on when the individual meets the requirements and is deemed suitable.
So, if a 1500 hour guy joined ahead of a 3500 hour guy, the 3500 hour guy does not have to wait for his friend ahead of him to upgrade before he can.
But, when eventually they are both captains, the guy who joined first will be more senior even though he may have x thousand hours less than the second guy.
Does any of that make sense????
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The same little bird that informed me about the seniority also told me if I joined now I would at least have to wait for a minimum of 12 months before haveing my seat back, probably even more, all depending on the type of airplane they give you....
Again, if you are prepared for this,then leaving a nice Boeing or Airbus with MAYBE a not so nice life might be the thing you are looking for and is flying a Brava for 10+ years at Netjets the right place and plane for you.
All the rest in my previous post has been confirmed to me by an insider this morning and it is not Smeagel...
I think I have said what needed to be said and that every body must now decide for himself.....
Have a nice sunday
Again, if you are prepared for this,then leaving a nice Boeing or Airbus with MAYBE a not so nice life might be the thing you are looking for and is flying a Brava for 10+ years at Netjets the right place and plane for you.
All the rest in my previous post has been confirmed to me by an insider this morning and it is not Smeagel...
I think I have said what needed to be said and that every body must now decide for himself.....
Have a nice sunday
PPRuNe Handmaiden
B-767,
I won't deny your little bird's whisperings but perhaps they've given you the worst case scenario?
Perusing my roster I am seeing guys getting upgraded within the year so it's not entirely true. The delivery schedule is causing a couple of head aches. What will happen tomorrow is any one's guess but if you join expecting to wait 12 months for an upgrade and it happens in 3 months, who's going to complain? If you join expecting to upgrade within 6 weeks and it takes 12 months, you'll be annoyed.
Within the new seniority list is a stepped progression that has yet to be implemented. That is, if you're on the small cabin, you wait 2 years (or 1,000hrs) before your seat lock is removed. Midsize is 3 years (or 1,500 hs) etc. However, if you're on the Bravo and you want eg the G5 and there's a a lot of guys in front of you, then you'll have to wait OR pick another type.
So this 10 years on the Bravo isn't exactly accurate. Also, once a captain, always a captain.
However, like any maturing company, progression does slow down.
I won't deny your little bird's whisperings but perhaps they've given you the worst case scenario?
Perusing my roster I am seeing guys getting upgraded within the year so it's not entirely true. The delivery schedule is causing a couple of head aches. What will happen tomorrow is any one's guess but if you join expecting to wait 12 months for an upgrade and it happens in 3 months, who's going to complain? If you join expecting to upgrade within 6 weeks and it takes 12 months, you'll be annoyed.
Within the new seniority list is a stepped progression that has yet to be implemented. That is, if you're on the small cabin, you wait 2 years (or 1,000hrs) before your seat lock is removed. Midsize is 3 years (or 1,500 hs) etc. However, if you're on the Bravo and you want eg the G5 and there's a a lot of guys in front of you, then you'll have to wait OR pick another type.
So this 10 years on the Bravo isn't exactly accurate. Also, once a captain, always a captain.
However, like any maturing company, progression does slow down.
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Hi you guys currently at NJ!
With regards seniority and command upgrades.
I understand the seniority system. However, once a successful command assessment has been completed, do you keep your place in the que when waiting for a command? Or can you expect to get overtaken in the que, by more senior pilots with less hours who have just completed their assessments?
This is how it works where I am now.
With regards seniority and command upgrades.
I understand the seniority system. However, once a successful command assessment has been completed, do you keep your place in the que when waiting for a command? Or can you expect to get overtaken in the que, by more senior pilots with less hours who have just completed their assessments?
This is how it works where I am now.
PPRuNe Handmaiden
The process is slightly different at NJE. You get recommended for upgrade based on your colleagues and line trainers comments as well as hours. Once you're on the course and you pass* you have a command position. No assessment and then wait for a course. (Our upgrade/command course is 5 days ground school followed by 4 sessions in the sim and then off for line training etc. This may change slightly in the future as our needs change)
If changing types there's the usual delay of the type rating/base check/line trainers compared to just having to wait for a line trainer if you're staying on the same type.
There's a spot for every one on your upgrade course.
That's how it's been and I don't think the seniority list will change that. The seniority list is primarily for fleet changes. (with some caveats)
* a fail isn't good. Not sure what's happening now but I *think* there's an management review followed by 6-12 month wait. Now they let you do a renewal with a line trainer to fix any problem areas. 2 strikes = no more chances unless extenuating circumstances.
If changing types there's the usual delay of the type rating/base check/line trainers compared to just having to wait for a line trainer if you're staying on the same type.
There's a spot for every one on your upgrade course.
That's how it's been and I don't think the seniority list will change that. The seniority list is primarily for fleet changes. (with some caveats)
* a fail isn't good. Not sure what's happening now but I *think* there's an management review followed by 6-12 month wait. Now they let you do a renewal with a line trainer to fix any problem areas. 2 strikes = no more chances unless extenuating circumstances.