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Old 22nd Feb 2009, 21:49
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SOCATA ST-60 Rallye 7

Open house - i need to get the hang of loading pictures....
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Smile

One11 has it . Its the SOCATA ST-60 Rallye 7, a development from the Horizon/Diplomat range. 2 were produced, and the one pictured below having appeared at the 1971 Paris Air Show still survives and is flying today.

One11 has declared Open House

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Old 23rd Feb 2009, 13:06
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Lets see if this works - apologies if it comes up rubbish. Otherwise ....and now for something completely similar..........

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Old 23rd Feb 2009, 14:59
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I'm stuck between the Piper Comanche or the Beech Debonair. Ummmm
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Could it be the Zlín Z 43?
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Looks like the Libis KB-11 Branko?
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Old 23rd Feb 2009, 15:40
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Not only looks like - it is. Back to Skytrain10
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Ken's challenge

Thanks One11...here's my next offering:

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Old 24th Feb 2009, 09:43
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From Japan - Nihon N-62

I suspect we may have the same books.................
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 10:04
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It is indeed the Nihon N-62 Eaglet. To see if we have the same book, a copy of the page from the Observers Book of Aircraft appears below.

Back to you One11..bit like tennis this!

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Old 24th Feb 2009, 12:30
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....thats it . Also in contemporary Aircraft of the World by Green & Pollinger 1965.

Lets try and break out of the loop with another of the great un-built....

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Old 24th Feb 2009, 14:33
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Miles X.9 (4x RR Griffon)
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 15:47
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I'm not happy with un-built a/c for challenges. Nor is it depicted as a silhouette.

Point of order Mr Chairman.
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 17:40
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Well, I posted an unbuilt, and it lasted 3 days, wheras a built[?] wasn't identified......
IF the subject is [reasonably] well documented, then why not?
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 18:54
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First, re comments on line drawings of unbuilt designs. When I first discovered this forum it had just had a run of unbuilt line drawings.... e.g Kurt Tanks I.Ae Condor. ......I assumed it was a "bit of fun" thread so did not go looking for the Rule Book.


Anyway I ll go with DETDPI's Miles identification although the info with this version says it was an earlier incarnation of the concept - Miles M.26 "X" Airliner - originally to have 4 RR engines, then 8 coupled Brabazon style. Likewise the original load was to be just 38 passengers but later expanded to 100. Source Miles Aircraft , Harleyford 1944. Although the X was a paper aeroplane Miles got as far as bulding a Gipsy Major powered twin - the M.30 X Minor in 1939 - the engine installation did not attempt to replicate the aerodynamic qualities of the full size concept. DETDPI has control.

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Old 25th Feb 2009, 07:14
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Interesting points raised by one11 on the Miles X series. I stand corrected in fact.
I have checked my copy of the Harleford Miles book and under the M.26 entry the aircraft was a 150 ft wingspan project powered by eight RR in- line engines , obviously 4 coupled pairs.
Revisiting Don Lambert Brown's Putnam Miles , I see I jumped the gun by punting the X-9, as this was a 116ft span ,four engined concept. What was illustrated by one11 is identifiable in this book as the X-11. This design had been rejected by the time the Harleford book went to press.
In the Putnam ,which of course was published much later (1970) and free of wartime restrictions, D L B notes "... the type number M.26 was later allocated to cover the series of X designs"
It is interesting to note that at the bottom of the original page drawing selected by one11 the aircraft is titled "MILES X" .
I do recommend those interested in the evolution of the Brabazon and Britannia to take a look at the machinations at the time regarding the Miles proposals.
Here's another oddity.....


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Old 25th Feb 2009, 08:37
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Portsmouth Aerocar from 1947

Open house...........i need to find some other sources than the Observer book series - or use the abhorrent line drawing!
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Old 25th Feb 2009, 08:59
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Quite correct one11 of course!
I talked with some ex- Portsmouth Aviation guys many years ago on this one. Apparently it was overweight and seriously underpowered - thus not alone amongst immediate post war U.K. products.
As said - Open house.
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Old 25th Feb 2009, 11:13
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May I?





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Old 25th Feb 2009, 12:22
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The Fouga Magister version CM 191, later sesignated the Potez-Heinkel CM 191?
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