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Old 20th Mar 2011, 16:49
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As the engine seems to form the most part of the whole thing, is it any of the following:

Curtiss OX-5 or 6
Hispano-Suiza 8-series
Packard Liberty 12
Peugeot 8 - series
R.A.F. I a or 4a
Renault 12 - series
Rolls-Royce Eagle II - VIII
Sunbeam Cossack
Wolseley Viper
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Old 20th Mar 2011, 16:52
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None of those specifically, but to help you along, it is a Curtiss engine.
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Old 20th Mar 2011, 17:28
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Somehow leaning to Curtiss V-1570 engine, but cannot place it to an airplane. Seems to have a wrong tail for a Curtiss….. From US?

Could it be possible that the radiators were placed differently in different versions?
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Old 20th Mar 2011, 17:37
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Curtiss V-1570 engine
Right number of cylinders, but not the V-1570. The aircraft itself is from the US, but its NOT a Curtiss design.

Could it be possible that the radiators were placed differently in different versions?
Not entirely sure how to answer you. Other models from this manufacturer had their radiators mounted in different postions. There were no other versions of this aircraft per se.

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Old 20th Mar 2011, 21:06
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Skytrain, I have to suspend my efforts for tonight. See you tomorrow. Good night!
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Good evening skytrain,

These late night look-ins seem to be becoming a bit of a habit, everybody else seems to have departed, but I see your light's still on!

That's a Thomas-Morse TM-23

Fitted with a Curtiss D-12 (no piccie on Aerofiles ), but I just found your drawing on a certain Russian site, so have removed my question mark!! Now I'll have to sort something out to post.
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Old 20th Mar 2011, 23:34
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Evening Trevor.
Well I was just about to shut down, but you've got it, it is the Thomas-Morse TM-23. Mentioned but not pictured in Aerofiles.



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Thanks Ken,

I was editing my post when you replied. Seeing as there was only a single example built, it seems odd that the photo doesn't seem to show the streamlined gear legs or the prominent "leading edge extensions" shown on the drawing, but I guess that it may not have been built like that, or maybe they were proposed changes to improve its performance that were neve made!

I'll sort something out for the night shift and put it up shortly.

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Yes, I had noticed after posting there were some discrepancies between the 3-view and the picture. As you say the 3-view was probably what it was to look like. Alternatively of course, as I have found on that site before, they may have put up the wrong picture!

A quiet weekend on SC all in all. Shame as back to my travels next week so I had hoped for a little more interest than there was. Anyway I'll try to look in when I can during the week, internet connection permitting!

Time to sign off now, so I'll say good night
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Yes, they do often put up a wrong picture, or often, one picture linked to a series of aircraft!! Very annoying and confusing, but a good site none the less.

I'd hoped to get on more over the weekend, but things conspired against it. Have a good trip and let's hope you can get a reasonable connection once in a while

If you're out there Graeme, wassis then?

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Old 21st Mar 2011, 06:40
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Good morning All, in the order you wake up….. .

Funny, I must have seen the Thomas-Morse picture several times last night but somehow missed it. It's like sometimes with cross word puzzles and Sudoku. Once in a while it is good just to sleep over an unsolved problem (and get someone else solve it ).
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Old 21st Mar 2011, 07:26
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Guten Tag Reg ,

I passed the T-M over too at first, but I was satisfied that the Aerofiles entry was probably the one we were after, but that same photo was the only one I could find and as it wsa a one-off, I couldn't reconsile it with the drawing until I dug a lttle deeper on Airwar and found the three-view!

Just off for the dog's early morning perambulations, back in a little while!

Good hunting
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Old 21st Mar 2011, 07:55
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You know, the way I trawl pictures from Airwar, gives me only the photo but NOT the 3D. That's why I didn't get it. The same trawling technique gives it from other websites (it's in several…). Have found the same phenomenon elsewhere. Had a problem some time ago, where no method used gave one picture in a Wiki article (but the other of the two). Probably there was some glitch in the coding of that attachment… Oh yes, one is a prisoner of ones shortcomings, although should not be .
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Old 21st Mar 2011, 09:35
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Morning Gents.

Looking for a 3-view but I'm going with the Soviet Nyeman R-10....

...or also known as the Kharkov KhAI-5.
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G'day Graeme,

I hope you had a great weekend!

I just knew you'd get this one! It is the EDO Nyeman R-10 (or P-10).... AKA the Kharkov KhAI-5.

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Old 21st Mar 2011, 10:03
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I hope you had a great weekend!
I did thanks mate. Saw the twin girls, (got photos if you're interested) and stopped off at Holbrook to visit HMAS Otway and the Submarine Museum ...




What I didn't do is make any decent silhouettes mate....This is all I've got...

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Old 21st Mar 2011, 10:08
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I must have seen the Thomas-Morse picture several times last night but somehow missed it.
Same here mate. Went straight past it. Apparently it had "countless modifications."

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Old 21st Mar 2011, 10:29
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Widgeon, mate????

Edit: No, how about the Goose???
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Old 21st Mar 2011, 10:31
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Goose it is mate!

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see my edit, mate
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