So how do feel about conscription for all WA children?

Seceding would be the biggest own goal in the history of the world.

Yes and no.:)

"Under section 51(ix) of the Constitution, the Commonwealth has power over the states regarding quarantine. Where state and Commonwealth laws are inconsistent, the Commonwealth law prevails.(10) However, this principle proved less clear-cut than its drafters probably intended"

"Before an amendment to the Act in 1912 the Commonwealth did not have the power to act in response to a number of diseases, such as a measles epidemic aboard a ship. The states had the power, but no resources, to take quarantine measures"

"In 1920 the Act was amended to address these constitutional and administrative problems. Section 2A(3) was inserted to give the Commonwealth power to override state legislation by proclamation in an emergency."

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliam.../rp0405/05rp03

I’m not a lawyer, does that mean the commonwealth can override the states, but choose not to?

Have a look at the link Ragnor. It does not override the States ability to close its borders and apply restriction in response to a public health threat. It does explain why the States have no authority over which vaccines are selected and how it is distributed as an example.

Someone better tell McClown and his offsider Cook. He thinks he can call the shots on that too. Maybe he should pay for it then!

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....13-p56tsv.html

Actually no, the federal government selected and bought the vaccine supply and distributed to the states proportioned by population who are responsible for health.

So according to all applicable legislation, division of powers and the National Covid Vaccine Policy once the WA government get the vaccine they are the ones calling the shots in regards to locations, staff, etc.

And having at look at their plans it’s no different from any other state in terms of priority.

I realise you don’t like the WA Government’s border approach but you don’t have to blow a gasket every time they’re mentioned in the press, otherwise you’re going to have an unhappy life.

dr dre, are you in hotel isolation? Have you been there for 10 months?

You’re dead right. McGowan will probably ride this popularity ground swell forever and I’m going to have to live with his smug face on TV for the rest of my unhappy life!

Please make it stop! :hmm:

Not if you aspire to non-stop, there isn't.

And I bet you drive a Hyundai Ioniq, right?
Or perhaps, don't have a licence yet?

I'd make 5 stops to bypass your bogan mecca.

Nissan Navarra, although, the k's I'm doing at the moment an i30 would do me nicely, made from steel mined from your cesspit.

Mystery to me why people that harbour such a dislike for any particular locality are so concerned when they cannot go there....

:rolleyes:

👍👍👍 .

Looks like Beryl lost another round

With the treasurer saying jobkeeper won’t be extended, what assistance can those of us who are employed but not getting a wage expect to receive?

I assume we won’t be eligible for Jobseeker due to the fact that we apparently have jobs. Is there anything at all we’ll be able to access (genuine question)?

Its pretty poor form from the LNP. If you haven’t already, may I suggest a quick email to your local federal member.

It's not that, I'm trying to look at how individual leaders have done things rather than political labelling, as the whole CV19 is a moving target personally I think some have handled it better than others.

NSW and Vic having screwed up at the start have both been forced to develop reasonable contract tracing to deal with inevitable outbreaks when people start moving around.

McGowan has preached eradication, if they have instituted contract tracing it's unclear to what extent and it's never been tested in anger, ongoing response is to hide under the bedcovers and operate as a hostage state.

I can see how I'd be looking to come into the state election campaign as opposition - "if you never want to see your east coast grandkiddies ever again that's your choice vote McGowan, if you think that's not really the way to live life better think of the other bloke".
Nuanced of course and local issues to ask about the future/past failures raised ie standard political stuff but do NOT not allow the messiahic "I saved you you must vote for me" crap that Queen P was allowed to run with unhindered by a piss weak clueless opposition in QLD.

Actually the “other bloke” (opposition leader Zak Kirkup) is in agreement now with McGowan on border closures. He “fully supported and endorsed” the decision to apply a hard border to Qld.

It’s a moot point, he’s unlikely to retain his seat anyway at the election (holds it on a 0.7% margin) and the Libs are going to be wiped out in March.

Emperor McGowan
 

McGowan holds the highest approval rating of any modern politician in Australia, the March election is effectively a formality. If I were the WA Libs I’d be more concerned about the following election.

If I were McGowan I’d be spending more time talking to federal Libs to try to wheel and deal some programs that would benefit both parties.

heard a rumour that China is quietly offering very cheap loans in the Pacific. As many billions as these island nations want (that they'll never ever be able to repay).

We better all start learning mandarin.

They have been doing world wide for years. Mainly concentrating in africa but have been doing it in the pacific as well. Just not to same scale of africa

wait for it. If Pacific Island nations don't get tourists soon, China will be in like flynn.

Deputy PM Michael McCormack reckons there are heaps of fruit picking jobs up for grabs. You can even earn $3,000 per week, make lots of friends, enjoy an adventure. Wow, that is an amazing opportunity. I wonder if the Ministers family and friends have embarked on this lucrative opportunity?

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....85134def1ae737

I guess it is just fortunate that no crisis that we face ever disadvantages our Politicians. They still collect a ludicrous salary, they have their Superannuation PROTECTED under legislation, they don’t lose their businesses and they don’t have to pay for their own utilities, offices, vehicle etc. Complete scum.

start learning the words to this song for your future "masters"

Monty Python - I Like Chinese

How may time have we heard that before!!

WA is a lost cause McClown will do McClown things write off seeing loved ones etc for at least another two months.

Queen P has been very quiet on this front what’s her next move keep it shut or open up before end of the month maybe 1st Feb?

JQ are standing crews down in ML and SY base for Feb SY has lost 70% of flying. Maybe Miss Jayne is going to strike on AJ and take her frequent flyers back.

Fantastic game of cricket at the Gabba, oh Mr Mclown so sorry you missed out on your test match due to your East German philosophy.

Only 5,000 people attended the Gabba for the final day, 12% of capacity, you really think they’d be disappointed on not hosting an event that would barely be bringing in any revenue? I think the real money in sports is made in TV rights, you could host the Test match in Birdsville, as long as enough watched the broadcast it’d be profitable.

As others have said, this is old news. Look up China Vanuatu or China Fiji and perhaps more worryingly China PNG. Last month, Papua New Guinea signed a memorandum of understanding to build a $200 million "comprehensive multi-functional fishery industrial park" on Daru Island. Google Daru. There isn't much there, including fish.

As Jeff Wall, a long time adviser to the PNG Government, wrote in the Australian Strategic Policy Institute's publication The Strategist this week, "the town of Daru is the closest PNG community to Australia. Even though it is around 200 kilometres from the Australian mainland, it is very close to the islands of the Torres Strait that are within our northern border."

so, in reality, they will build a massive wharf complex, big enough to take very large warships.. and perhaps a few fishing boats which will hover around sensitive Australian military facilities and have lots of strange aerials on them. They may even build an airport, you know to fly those non existent fish out back to China .

I made a comment before about what would happen when the virus mutates to a variant that renders the current vaccines useless or close to it.

if anyone thinks this will all end in 6 or 9 months when a significant portion of the world population is vaccinated...well..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art....html#comments

Stop reading too much Daily Mail or you’ll fearmonger yourself into a frenzy.

COVID mutates slower than the flu.
COVID strains are more genetically similar than the various flu strains are.
Mutations don’t necessarily render current vaccines useless.
Getting immunised against basic SARS-COV-2 will provide a level of protection against all strains, some more so than others.

Vaccines can be targeted to new strains of the virus. Every year scientists use forecasted predictions to choose which 4 influenza strains should be included in that year’s flu shot.

When you get your yearly flu shot in autumn does it bother you that scientists are already trying to work and predict what strains should be in the vaccine for the following season? Because that’s essentially what the article you posted is talking about if you strip away the usual Daily Mail tabloid hyperbole.

Fact check: COVID-19 and influenza vaccines too different to be directly compared

Seeing domestic borders will remain closed to each other in various ways slowly killing off domestic flying. How will QF handle what seems an indefinite grounding of its international pilots and aircraft? JQ has a different EBA QF have a RIN which would most certainly send the group broke if done.

I think the shift will now start to move toward the ongoing financial viability of the QF group to continue operations. A injection from somewhere will be needed before the year is out, and sadly much debt will be carried beyond this. Much more than originally planned.

You can see why Virgin is keeping its operation bare bones and holding off signing new contracts with vendors at the moment.

I don’t think laying off more workers is yet the answer. They will need the revenue and scale when this thing drops off to repay all this debt. They need the employees. Shrinking the operation isn’t the answer.

I’d be more concerned around 787 Long Haul Low Cost vanishing compared to anything else.

I'm not concerned about the LCC 787 going. That was always going to happen regardless of Covid-19.

I think the A321s would have replaced that 787s probably anyway....by the looks of it the A321 XLR should just about have the range for all of Asia, if from OOL or CNS which tends to happen with north Asian routes now anyway. I cant see HNL coming back.

I guess it’s a more an issue with, they own these 788s and they can’t sell them for what they want. Was window before all this started to offload 3.

Norwegian has blown that plan by flooding the market with them.

However they might need them now to borrow against them.

Well indeed, i dont think the 787-8s would have great re sale value either, only option would be to transfer to QF to replace 330s on lease, but even that wouldn't be a cheap option, and on short - medium routes the A330s are actually able to hold their own fuel wise and would probably have less capacity than the 332s

If thats why you think the test match didn't happen in Perth then I have a bridge to sell you, btw absolute gem of a game though

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/i...azilian-amazon

Its killing younger people. Still want to open the borders dickheads?

It only kills us boomers. The young ones are all ok to go.. open the borders and let it rip. That is the case is it not, Sunny??

We sure do.

With the WA election getting momentum, WAxit party is gaining a little momentum. Do WA residents think this would be a good thing and would vote for CP old throw a ways?