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We have to remember that actions tend to be shaped by our own lived experience. And fortunately or perhaps unfortunately our experience of WuHu flu in Australia has been very different to most other countries. Look at the case and death rates per million population for countries like the uk or the us and compare them to Australia. It has only been due to the latest Sydney outbreak that our vaccination rates have really ramped up. If our politicians are talking about rates of 80%, good luck. Come back this time next year. Getting from 70 to 80% will be a very different story than getting from 40 to 50 or even 50 to 60. Fingers crossed I am wrong .
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ |
356 in NSW today and 3 deaths :eek:
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It looks like the NSW border is done until Q1 next year. December could be challenging, nobody in and nobody out. Fatigue will start to bite as people will want out.
Andrews and McGowan won’t have a bar of it. |
It’s scary now, last yr the nation was at the same position in relation to covid. Now, we have NSW that will be isolated for the foreseeable future, are company already knows this and has requested LWOP applications for SY base only. Thanks Gladys and you have the hide to be still saying this is a hard lockdown nothing more they could of done!
There is never accountability with these politicians 1 Billion a week is just a number. |
I think it’s truly wonderful that people like SOPS and WingNut60, neither of whom are working Pilots, like to come onto a Pilot forum and explain how awesome closed borders are and what a great man McClown is. WingNut tells us everything is fine because the approach to RW24 is busy. FFS! :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Transition Layer
(Post 11092691)
I think it’s truly wonderful that people like SOPS and WingNut60, neither of whom are working Pilots, like to come onto a Pilot forum and explain how awesome closed borders are and what a great man McClown is. WingNut tells us everything is fine because the approach to RW24 is busy. FFS! :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Transition Layer
(Post 11092691)
I think it’s truly wonderful that people like SOPS and WingNut60, neither of whom are working Pilots, like to come onto a Pilot forum and explain how awesome closed borders are and what a great man McClown is. WingNut tells us everything is fine because the approach to RW24 is busy. FFS! :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Transition Layer
(Post 11092691)
I think it’s truly wonderful that people like SOPS and WingNut60, neither of whom are working Pilots, like to come onto a Pilot forum and explain how awesome closed borders are and what a great man McClown is. WingNut tells us everything is fine because the approach to RW24 is busy. FFS! :rolleyes:
For the record, I don’t think closed borders are awesome. However, I have quite a few friends that are flying in WA every day and I do think that’s awesome. And while we can keep things under control they can keep flying. in other news, it seems our friend in Ballina does not believe the virus exists. |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11092721)
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For the record, I don’t think closed borders are awesome. However, I have quite a few friends that are flying in WA every day and I do think that’s awesome. And while we can keep things under control they can keep flying. in other news, it seems our friend in Ballina does not believe the virus exists. I guess it will never happen in nsw from the way gladys talks but maybe a curfew is what is needed. If the numbers continue to show there are many out in the community every day infected with the virus it seems to me the only way to stop the spread is to stop people moving around as they are,guess im stating the obvious there. |
Originally Posted by PoppaJo
(Post 11092660)
It looks like the NSW border is done until Q1 next year. December could be challenging, nobody in and nobody out. Fatigue will start to bite as people will want out.
Andrews and McGowan won’t have a bar of it. If all the other states can keep clean there is a good chance of travel between most states except nsw of course,hopefully this will happen & get people flying again soon. |
As long as the fear out there remains high in the community the hopes & dreams of millions will be kept squashed by the lunatics in charge!
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Well you don’t have to worry. Clive Palmer is now taking out Court Procedures to stop the roll out of vaccines in WA. Im not sure why.. but if this goes ahead (which I’m sure it won’t), but if it did .. we will have to put up a wall of steel to all of the East Coast.
I would love to know what planet Clive lives on.. or what he smokes. |
but if it did .. we will have to put up a wall of steel to all of the East Coast. |
WA's budget has been kept afloat by record iron ore prices, nothing more. I can only wonder what their response would have been if the spot price was back in 2016 levels, below $50 a tonne... |
Originally Posted by 601
(Post 11093052)
I didn't know that the WA Govt was paid for the iron ore that was sold. Silly me thought that they got royalties $/ton or am I mistaken.
Actually getting some of our GST back has been pretty handy too. |
Originally Posted by WingNut60
(Post 11093067)
Correct, but volumes are certainly up on the back of the higher prices.
Actually getting some of our GST back has been pretty handy too. |
Originally Posted by Climb150
(Post 11093157)
GST has nothing to do with mining royalties.
The context was the source of WA's relative prosperity at the moment. WA's budget has been kept afloat by record iron ore prices, nothing more. |
Originally Posted by 601
(Post 11093052)
I didn't know that the WA Govt was paid for the iron ore that was sold. Silly me thought that they got royalties $/ton or am I mistaken.
If you compare Western Australian state royalty revenue from say 2017-18, when iron ore was trading under $1 per tonne, with last year, with iron ore in the $1.50 and upwards range, there's a difference of over $3 billion or about 60 percent ($5.21 billion in 2017-18 versus $8.29 billion for 2020-21). Over half of the increased total revenue between those two budgets ($28.5 billion versus $34.1 billion) is driven by royalties, which are in turn driven by the iron ore price. |
Originally Posted by MickG0105
(Post 11093281)
Yes, in this case you are mistaken................
The vast bulk of the iron ore sold from W.A. is sold on long-term contracts which are at a rate considerably below the oft-quoted newspaper headline prices but are a more secure revenue source for the larger producers. |
344 cases today. What a gold standard **** up
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
(Post 11093298)
344 cases today. What a gold standard **** up
Consider the UK, 89% of eligible adults with their 1st does, 75% have had both. Yet they still racked up 23,510 new cases yesterday, and 146 deaths. Source "Australian-ising" that would give 8,965 new cases Oz-wide and 55 deaths, based on Australia's population being 38% of the UK. "NSWelsh-anising" it would give 2,889 new cases in NSW and 18 deaths. based on NSW's population being 12% of the UK. And remember, that's with 75% of their adults having had both vaccinations! |
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-...down/100368176
Our friend from Byron. Police have charged a Sydney man who travelled to Byron Bay, and subsequently sparked a COVID-19 lockdown in the area. Zoran Radovanovic, from Rose Bay, travelled to the popular holiday destination with his two children last month. Police allege Mr Radovanovic, 52, made the journey without a reasonable excuse. The shires of Byron, Richmond Valley, Lismore and Ballina were on Monday put into a seven-day lockdown and numerous exposure sites were listed. They're all within the Queensland-NSW border zone where locals have been allowed to travel across state lines for "permitted purposes", including grocery shopping. The future court attendance notice will be served on Mr Radovanovic, who remains at Lismore Base Hospital with strict bail conditions after testing positive for COVID-19. His two children have also tested positive for COVID-19. "The 52-year-old man from Rose Bay will be charged with breaching the public health order after he travelled from Sydney to Byron Bay and surrounding areas without reasonable excuse and for breaching public health orders," said NSW Police Assistant Commissioner Peter McKenna. Mr Radovanovic will be required to appear at Lismore Court on September 13 and will be under strict bail conditions until then. "I would appeal to all members of community regardless of where you come from to abide by these public health orders," said Assistant Commissioner McKenna. "It is the only way we are going to stop this virus spreading in regional NSW and keep our community safe." Health authorities in NSW confirmed no new cases had been identified in the area in the 24 hours to 8:00pm yesterday. |
The most disturbing comment from Dan this morning was "I will do anything to protect you from this virus". This
is after a heckler, probably someone thats gone to the wall, was heard in the background. What ever happened to looking after our own health that's been happening since Adam & Eve decided to go to the disco. However, the advice from public health is to follow the science. What a magnificent comment, something thats written in stone from the University of spinology. The smirks, show the extent of the spin. |
Originally Posted by Ladloy
(Post 11093298)
344 cases today. What a gold standard **** up
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Originally Posted by KRviator
(Post 11093300)
Bit harsh I think. Delta doesn't seem to be playing by the extant rules.
Consider the UK, 89% of eligible adults with their 1st does, 75% have had both. Yet they still racked up 23,510 new cases yesterday, and 146 deaths. Source "Australian-ising" that would give 8,965 new cases Oz-wide and 55 deaths, based on Australia's population being 38% of the UK. "NSWelsh-anising" it would give 2,889 new cases in NSW and 18 deaths. based on NSW's population being 12% of the UK. And remember, that's with 75% of their adults having had both vaccinations! |
Originally Posted by Ladloy
(Post 11093316)
well we're on our way and don't forget deaths lag behind case numbers. She could have locked it down earlier but she had to play politics
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^^^This^^^
No point making a rule and not being willing and able to enforce it effectively. That's the half-arsed way of doing it. |
Originally Posted by WingNut60
(Post 11093292)
True. But many people are misled into thinking that the spot pricing reflects actual revenue.
The vast bulk of the iron ore sold from W.A. is sold on long-term contracts which are at a rate considerably below the oft-quoted newspaper headline prices but are a more secure revenue source for the larger producers. So, yes, there is a difference between spot and contract prices but the margin is nowhere near what it once was. It was that evolution in contract pricing that led the WA government to make more frequent adjustments to the commodity index value that is applied to calculate royalty payments. |
Originally Posted by itsnotthatbloodyhard
(Post 11093318)
I’m not sure it really matters much when she decided to apply the lockdown, given that so many people out there are failing to abide by it anyway.
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
(Post 11093281)
If you compare Western Australian state royalty revenue from say 2017-18, when iron ore was trading under $1 per tonne, with last year, with iron ore in the $1.50 and upwards range, there's a difference of over $3 billion or about 60 percent ($5.21 billion in 2017-18 versus $8.29 billion for 2020-21).
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Originally Posted by gerry111
(Post 11093334)
I reckon you meant iron ore trading at under $100 per tonne and subsequently over $150.
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That would be the bluetooth chip that's been injected into you! It will be interesting to see which of Bill and Belinda takes over control of your life, their having been give a 50/50 split of the assets on divorce.
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080
(Post 11093312)
The most disturbing comment from Dan this morning was "I will do anything to protect you from this virus". This
is after a heckler, probably someone thats gone to the wall, was heard in the background. What ever happened to looking after our own health that's been happening since Adam & Eve decided to go to the disco. However, the advice from public health is to follow the science. What a magnificent comment, something thats written in stone from the University of spinology. The smirks, show the extent of the spin. |
Regarding COVID, may I add how these hypocritical political bull**** artists have allowed famous actors, sports people, wealthy people and even their political selves through the system regardless of domestic and international lockdowns, because why - they contribute to the economy! Really? Here is a fact - unlocking the effing lockdowns and allowing business and normal activities to flourish WILL ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMY. You absolute morons…..
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 11093319)
^^^This^^^
No point making a rule and not being willing and able to enforce it effectively. That's the half-arsed way of doing it. another 500 army personnel will be coming to Sydney I mentioned that we would be in lockdown in Sydney until the grand final weekend in early October. Well now Gladys says until November at least. Until we get 70% vaccinated. And then what. They still can’t or won’t tell us what restrictions will be lifted. They are still working through that. Because 8 weeks of lockdown already just isn’t enough time. and as for Byron man, well apparently the police have told the health idiots that the health regulations need to be re written. Which will start tomorrow. I wonder if that will take eight weeks. In the meantime, let’s all plan our vacations. Just make sure you book in to inspect a property at your holiday destination. Yes I know Byron man has just been charged but who knows if it will stick. Seeing as the rules are having to be re written. I mean that surely could be used by him in defence. |
When the enforcement of the lockdown rules involves the ADF and police physically restraining people from moving in breach of the lockdown laws, as the ADF and police have interpreted them, and the ADF and police incarcerate those who resist, Australia will have finally reached the end of the beginning of the response to this pandemic.
Pray, to whichever deity you subscribe, that the Omega strain takes its time. |
Originally Posted by Paragraph377
(Post 11093397)
Regarding COVID, may I add how these hypocritical political bull**** artists have allowed famous actors, sports people, wealthy people and even their political selves through the system regardless of domestic and international lockdowns, because why - they contribute to the economy! Really? Here is a fact - unlocking the effing lockdowns and allowing business and normal activities to flourish WILL ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMY. You absolute morons…..
the hospitalisations would be no different as they now. Dealing with recalcitrant premiers is the reason why business are collapsing and all of us not flying. The SA Olympians just did 14 days quarantine in NSW and now have to do an extra 14 days of iso in SA. They are fully vaxed and all negative. Makes you wonder if this 70% quota is load of spin as well. As someone said 7 governments, 1 country. |
It is troubling to see the contrary advice still being pushed by Politicians Down Under. Obviously here in Europe, big mistakes were made in hindsight at the beginning of the C19 saga. But now with some 80% vaccination in the whole population in the UK over a reasonable period, some proven data is now available.
AZ is overwhelmingly safe and still in use. The medical opinion is that C19 is here to stay, 0 infections are unattainable in the long term, unless like NZ you are happy to Lockdown seemingly indefinitely with no travel. ( Unless you own Google!) Mass vaccination 80% + can bring back some normalcy, even works with the D strain. Comments for example re not having the vaccination during pregnancy runs completely opposite to the UK National Health Service now officially recommending vaccination when pregnant , due to the real danger of contacting C19 during this time. We must try and avoid mixed messages Worldwide. |
Originally Posted by cessnapete
(Post 11093445)
We must try and avoid mixed messages Worldwide.
We can't even avoid mixed messages across the Tweed River yet alone an international border! :mad::ugh: |
Originally Posted by Turnleft080
(Post 11093428)
If the whole friggen country opened all domestic borders right now and mandated masks and sanitiser (Australia wide) which prevent the spread,
the hospitalisations would be no different as they now. Dealing with recalcitrant premiers is the reason why business are collapsing and all of us not flying. The SA Olympians just did 14 days quarantine in NSW and now have to do an extra 14 days of iso in SA. They are fully vaxed and all negative. Makes you wonder if this 70% quota is load of spin as well. As someone said 7 governments, 1 country. |
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