Originally Posted by Lead Balloon (Post 11070238)

I can imagine proper quarantine arrangements and adequate ICU infrastructure, all of which would cost less than the real cost of the lockdowns and border restrictions.

Originally Posted by chookcooker (Post 11070093)

except for the messaging.

it’s not a race,
AZ for adults.
Az only over 50s
wait , AZ only over 60s
hangon, AZ for everyone,
and hurry up and get it!! It’s a race!

then add the fact they knocked back Pfizer for a Israeli style total vaccination plan that would have had us 40M doses by now.
they do perhaps deserve some blame.

Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11070389)

NSW just shut to WA. I think we are almost done. Front doors locked , fire on, wine opened , lets see where this goes.

Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 11070295)

Don’t bother reasoning with jrfsp, he/she has clearly been brainwashed with fear living happily under Herr McGowan’s reich. You know, the people who are OK with a “circuit breaker” lockdown to “crush” the virus, because of 3 whole cases in Perth :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11070447)

Yeah, should’ve just sat on his ass like Gladys over in Sydney, and let it all develop into a 14 day lockdown.

WA has done 5, 3, and 4 days. So less total time for 3 breakouts than Sydney for 1. Even Bruz admitted today they should’ve locked down last week. Whoops.

I don’t like any of this going on either, but either make quarantine air tight and remote, which they won’t or vaccinate a lot of people, which they haven’t.

Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11070155)

thanks for admitting it is impossible to police and a bloody stupid idea.

the original post being if you are vaccinated then you do not have to obey lockdowns. The numbers of police required to adequately enforce and check that people moving about are fully vaccinated would require doubling the police force and stopping EVERYONE on the street.

we don’t have 50%, 60% + vaccinated here so our population is still very vulnerable.. any measures taken in countries where they do have those vaccinated rates therefore are irrelevant.


there are some real …… on here. Grow a brain

Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11070392)

Yep those THREE cases in Perth must be pretty scary.

Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11070389)

NSW just shut to WA. I think we are almost done. Front doors locked , fire on, wine opened , lets see where this goes.

Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay (Post 11070635)

Are you suggesting the THREE cases are scary or are you suggesting the potential number of cases that could come from those THREE people is? Three cases is not scary at all, but The Delta strain has an R0 of about 7, your THREE cases could be thousands in less than 30 days. A short, sharp lockdown prevents this.

Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11070654)

And how many of those potential cases will need hospital treatment? Data from first world countries showing it’s definitely more infectious but causes serious illness approximately 90% less than previous strains. You don’t see Aussie media reporting that though do you? Doesn’t fit the “let’s keep em scared” narrative.

Originally Posted by morno (Post 11070535)

Settle down dip****. Think of it like a drivers license, we all need one to be out on the road, and you’re right, they can’t possibly police everyone, but the deterrent to driving without a license is the risk of getting pulled over and checked, followed by the consequences of a fine and possible court appearance. Now translate that into a vaccine certificate that permits you to be out and about during a lockdown.

Some people really need to grow a brain….

Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11070654)

............ Data from first world countries showing it’s definitely more infectious but causes serious illness approximately 90% less than previous strains. ..........................

Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11070654)

And how many of those potential cases will need hospital treatment? Data from first world countries showing it’s definitely more infectious but causes serious illness approximately 90% less than previous strains. You don’t see Aussie media reporting that though do you? Doesn’t fit the “let’s keep em scared” narrative.

Originally Posted by AerialPerspective (Post 11060194)

Haha, me too.

Makes me laugh that I innocently posted a reference to a segment on a news program (although I use that term lightly with Sky) by a demographic expert and every pretend expert on this forum has unleashed their mob-wisdom to discredit it without even realising what the point the guy was making was.

YES, people cross from one place to another in Sydney, but the ENTIRE BLOODY POPULATION doesn't do it on a daily basis. When you have a clump of suburbs in Melbourne that have an outbreak, there is no bridge or harbour or natural barrier, every suburb almost without exception borders (often on the other side of the street) with the next suburb. Given that not all 100% of people in Sydney drive to every other suburb separated from their region by a river or bridge every single day, it's OBVIOUS that sunken rivers and other barriers provide 'some' separation that does not exist in most other states, especially Victoria.

Precisely because of the bridge that you refer to this guy's position does have some merit, whether all the self-appointed geniuses on here agree with it or not. There is a physical/topographical difference between Sydney and Melbourne.