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Foxxster 29th Jun 2021 02:47


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11070082)
Fk, the left/ right argument. The premiers are starting to see that the benefit for the many outweighs the desires of the few.


Labor premiers, and there very much is a different standard for them as opposed to liberal premiers.

For people like Mr Sharma, who travelled to India to mourn his father's death, the lack of compassion and community solidarity is dispiriting.

"It's really devastating to see when people on social media say: 'Just let them stay there'. What kind of thing is that to say about a fellow Australian?

DirectAnywhere 29th Jun 2021 02:51

Yeah, well that's deeply sad, but it's about time political leaders understood that the needs of 25 million people trump the needs of 35,000. It's a numbers game.

Foxxster 29th Jun 2021 02:53


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11070084)
Yeah, well that's deeply sad, but it's about time political leaders understood that the needs of 25 million people trump the needs of 35,000. It's a numbers game.

oh, donít get me wrong. I completely agree with what you are saying and that there needs to be a reduction. I am just playing the typical leftie. And showing their utter hypocrisy. And the complicity of the mainstream media.

SOPS 29th Jun 2021 03:00

I really think itís time to say.. if you have left Australia since the border closed Ö you canít come back. ( ok .. there will be a few exceptions, but you know what I mean. )

DirectAnywhere 29th Jun 2021 03:04


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11070085)
oh, donít get me wrong. I completely agree with what you are saying and that there needs to be a reduction. I am just playing the typical leftie. And showing their utter hypocrisy. And the complicity of the mainstream media.

Sorry, I missed the irony. I have a serious sense of humour failure at the moment.

Lead Balloon 29th Jun 2021 03:04


I really think itís time to say.. if you have left Australia since the border closed Ö you canít come back. ( ok .. there will be a few exceptions, but you know what I mean. )
Yep. Provided that includes politicians, 'special' people from DFAT, sportspeople, investors etc.

Torukmacto 29th Jun 2021 03:15

Goverment just waiting until the majority understand they will need to vaccinate , closing country , closing borders and lockdowns will continue until the majority accept vaccinations is only way out . Blaming government for this is like blaming your union for slide in COS . Its up to the members / citizens to do something .

blubak 29th Jun 2021 03:16


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11070073)
Dan has just said something sensible. He wants to cut overseas arrivals by 75 percent and stop people going out until we ca get people vaccinated.

This is a really good ploy,get all premiers to agree & put the pressure right on scomo.
Instead of him sitting back & telling us its up to the individual states to nominate arrival caps etc,let him now grow a set & sort out his vaccine mess & whilst hes at it address his idiotic deputy for his mask wearing fiasco.
Whether u agree with masks or not,if this turkey ignores the rules well he needs to face the consequences(X10).

chookcooker 29th Jun 2021 03:17


Originally Posted by Torukmacto (Post 11070091)
Goverment just waiting until the majority understand they will need to vaccinate , closing country , closing borders and lockdowns will continue until the majority accept vaccinations is only way out . Blaming government for this is like blaming your union for slide in COS . Its up to the members / citizens to do something .

except for the messaging.

itís not a race,
AZ for adults.
Az only over 50s
wait , AZ only over 60s
hangon, AZ for everyone,
and hurry up and get it!! Itís a race!

then add the fact they knocked back Pfizer for a Israeli style total vaccination plan that would have had us 40M doses by now.
they do perhaps deserve some blame.

PoppaJo 29th Jun 2021 03:17

I think you will find a large majority of movements abroad are not overly critical or necessary. Then we need to deal with them on the return. I know one young bloke who went over to see his online lover in the states. He transferred his university studies to a American campus and he got the green light in. Now he is coming back.


SOPS 29th Jun 2021 03:21

WA closed to all of QLD as of 3.00 pm.

Icarus2001 29th Jun 2021 03:57


I really think it’s time to say.. if you have left Australia since the border closed … you can’t come back. ( ok .. there will be a few exceptions, but you know what I mean. )
The first and primary role of a government is to look after its own citizens.

They simply cannot stop people arriving if they are citizens. It is unconscionable. They tried it for five minutes and gave up.

They can however prevent people leaving.

SOPS 29th Jun 2021 04:01

Ok.. well stop them leaving then.

neville_nobody 29th Jun 2021 04:01


They simply cannot stop people arriving if they are citizens. It is unconscionable. They tried it for five minutes and gave up. They can however prevent people leaving.
Problem there is people play the game by leaving on one passport, but when they need to come back to Australia to get away from Covid they whip out their Australian Passport and demand to be let in.

SOPS 29th Jun 2021 04:58

All I know is that when this mess first started there were Thirty Thousand Australians overseas that wanted to come back. 18 months on, that number has not changed. Someone is taking the pi$$.

Chronic Snoozer 29th Jun 2021 05:10


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11070111)
All I know is that when this mess first started there were Thirty Thousand Australians overseas that wanted to come back. 18 months on, that number has not changed. Someone is taking the pi$$.

15 months in, still locking down for a couple of cases. What they should be saying is you are free to move about (with masks) if you are fully vaccinated. Those of you who aren't, remained seated.

Foxxster 29th Jun 2021 05:14


Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer (Post 11070117)
15 months in, still locking down for a couple of cases. What they should be saying is you are free to move about if you are fully vaccinated. Those of you who aren't, remained seated.


should, but practically policing it.. you would have to carry your little vaccine passport with you everywhere. Which of course would never happen. I think stopping everyone on the street, checking their papersÖ. Oh I forgot it,Ö logistically never going to happen.

Chronic Snoozer 29th Jun 2021 05:31

Well I just set up my immunisation certificate through Medicare Express app in three minutes flat. Logistically, couldn't be simpler.

vne165 29th Jun 2021 05:34

This has to be peak insanity...12 million people in lockdown....nearly 50% of the entire country.

Foxxster 29th Jun 2021 05:48


Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer (Post 11070122)
Well I just set up my immunisation certificate through Medicare Express app in three minutes flat. Logistically, couldn't be simpler.

bully for you,

is that mandatory. It would have to be.. or to carry a physical form of proof of vaccine.

and how are you going to police it without stopping everyone on the street. Papers please…..logistically impossible.


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