Vaccination rates to reach 95%???
Just looking at reported vaccination rates, more than 95% in the 70+ age group in the ACT have received at least one dose (83+% Australia wide).
95% of ACT 70+ year olds should be double-dosed by mid-November. Ever the optimist, why can’t all age groups reach a 95% vaccination rate? Supply & the ability to deliver being the main limitations ... assuming we can get past ‘vaccine hesitancy’ |
Much easier to prove, to persuade a person in the age range that gets hit by 20-50% mortality rates that vaccinating is in their interest. As you can see reading back the main issue is the younger folk believing it's like the flu, until they get it and then somehow changing their tune, add to that some well placed conspiracies and bad media.
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Originally Posted by layman
(Post 11097604)
Just looking at reported vaccination rates, more than 95% in the 70+ age group in the ACT have received at least one dose (83+% Australia wide).
95% of ACT 70+ year olds should be double-dosed by mid-November. Ever the optimist, why can’t all age groups reach a 95% vaccination rate? Supply & the ability to deliver being the main limitations ... assuming we can get past ‘vaccine hesitancy’ |
Originally Posted by Foxxster
(Post 11097551)
and done a wonderful smear job on AstraZeneca purely for political purposes. She and her health nutter knew full well the weakness of the federal libs especially Morrison was the lack of Pfizer. But there was plenty of AstraZeneca. So we get the chook making up bull**** stories so she can get Pfizer and the quack doing a hatchet job on AstraZeneca not once but twice. Keeping Queensland safe. I think not.
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Originally Posted by minigundiplomat
(Post 11097613)
anyone who thinks the lockdowns are about anything but the politics needs to buy some magic beans next time they’re at the market. Listen to Chairman Dan, McGoose and Queen P at their pressers, and listen to how many times they reference NSW - over and over again. They see the lack of Pfizer and situation in NSW as political capital and hammer it every day. That’s why you’re locked dow or locked up.
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So accept the virus has a greater impact on different age groups and target appropriately.
70+...95% 60-70...80% 40-60...66% below 40...50%....................or similar. Hopefully the targets would be well exceeded, the minority who choose not to/desire not to be vaccinated should be of no concern. |
Originally Posted by Ladloy
(Post 11097614)
Maybe if Gladys didn't play politics to begin with we wouldn't be in this mess. Now we've spread delta across to NZ. It's easy to reference NSW when they have single-handedly ****** two nations.
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681 in SYD today...
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Originally Posted by Agent_86
(Post 11097620)
681 in SYD today...
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Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11097621)
Thats the trigger for WA. I feel sorry for people from WA currently in NSW. They may not get home for months.
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Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11097621)
Thats the trigger for WA. I feel sorry for people from WA currently in NSW. They may not get home for months.
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you have more hope getting to WA via India, they refuse to book locals into Hotel Quarantine even at your own expense .
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Originally Posted by Agent_86
(Post 11097620)
681 in SYD today...
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Originally Posted by Chris2303
(Post 11097630)
21 in AKL as at 1300NZST
that escalated quickly. |
Originally Posted by Foxxster
(Post 11097631)
that escalated quickly.
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Originally Posted by Chris2303
(Post 11097630)
21 in AKL as at 1300NZST
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Can't blame Gladys for that one...They haven't had travel from Sydney since 22 June, IIRC.
You're better off asking how it got out out of quarantine. Or else, you should really lay the blame at the feet of the guilty party - those bloody Indians who came up with the Delta variant. |
Originally Posted by KRviator
(Post 11097637)
Can't blame Gladys for that one...They haven't had travel from Sydney since 22 June, IIRC.
You're better off asking how it got out out of quarantine. Or else, you should really lay the blame at the feet of the guilty party - those bloody Indians who came up with the Delta variant. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...modelling-says |
Originally Posted by Ladloy
(Post 11097614)
Maybe if Gladys didn't play politics to begin with we wouldn't be in this mess. Now we've spread delta across to NZ. It's easy to reference NSW when they have single-handedly ****** two nations.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal...0210609-p57zae Short memories. We’ve had plenty of Victorians fleeing Chairman Dan’s gold standard, spreading COVID as they go. Up here in Cairns, we can tell when Victorian’s are 3 days into lockdown by the sudden influx of Victoria - The Lockdown State plates as victorians flee. |
Why try and ignore facts and change history.
One Victorian spread it to one NSW at the start. Victoria then beat it, NSW played politics, played with fire and the fire got loose. No one else is playing politics with this, the comments coming from other leaders is frustration that NSW screwed the pooch and now it's rife everywhere. Since then large numbers of people that have visited NSW or from there have traveled interstate with it and spread it in numbers that grow rapidly, including NZ. This outbreak is squarely on the NSW gov and Gladys and her team, remember that at the polling booth. It is possible to beat it when numbers are low, Melbourne proved that. Wait too long while numbers simmer, well then it's chasing your tail like Sydney is doing right now. Had NSW done what everyone else had done instead of trying to prove some misguided contact tracing worked and just locked down hard we could be having this conversation in a pub anywhere in Australia. |
Originally Posted by minigundiplomat
(Post 11097643)
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/na...5d24bfa57fa17c
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal...0210609-p57zae Short memories. We’ve had plenty of Victorians fleeing Chairman Dan’s gold standard, spreading COVID as they go. Up here in Cairns, we can tell when Victorian’s are 3 days into lockdown by the sudden influx of Victoria - The Lockdown State plates as victorians flee. |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11097640)
The [New Zealand] government closed the trans-Tasman bubble on 25 July after the outbreak in New South Wales. Anyone returning from New South Wales was required to go to into quarantine. Travellers from Victoria were required to self-isolate for three days and produce two negative tests. But New Zealanders returning from other parts of Australia were given a week-long grace period to return without having to isolate. Those travellers were required to have a pre-departure test before arrival but the emergence of the virus has raised questions over whether that line of defence was breached. Ardern said there was 100% compliance with the rules made on the closure of the bubble, but despite this health officials would be producing a list of all arrivals from Australia into New Zealand during that period and contacting them again. |
Originally Posted by 43Inches
(Post 11097644)
remember that at the polling booth.
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Operation ‘zero’ cases
https://coronavirusexplained.ukri.or...ticle/pub0008/
Perhaps some of these ‘mystery’ infections have come via the post with your Mail, EBay purchases, Amazon deliveries, Uber eats and flower deliveries? Have our fearless politicians and their CMO’s explored this possibility? Time to shut down everything and go into underground bunkers (only if you have a vaccine passport) and pop back up in 3 years time. Like a post-nuclear winter. |
Originally Posted by Chris2303
(Post 11097630)
21 in AKL as at 1300NZST
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250,000 infections would get us out of this quicker . Fear would have lines at vaccination centres , federal government would flood country with vaccines and we would forget this whack a mole attitude .
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Just what Australia needs. Another partisan political influencer! Why do you think McGowan keeps slamming borders shut to WA. Because he won an election in a complete wipeout of the opposition during covid. That result gave him the mandate to keep doing it as needed and more, whether that was the intention of the voters or not, that's what they endorsed. |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11097621)
Thats the trigger for WA. I feel sorry for people from WA currently in NSW. They may not get home for months.
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Despite al the rhetoric, quite a few people in WA have relatives in “The East”, not to mention all the British expats who live there.
Sooner or later, WA is going to have to open up. |
Originally Posted by Turnleft080
(Post 11097600)
Melbourne figures out. 57 cases, 44 in iso, leaving 13 in the community which is the danger figure. Funny how Vic gov like to leak this stuff around 0830am, and NSW go all out bang at 1100am. Days of our lives stuff.
Many of the cases announced today are a result of 13 day tests which have still come up positive so a further 14 day quarantine for those individuals. Andrews said although they would much rather see low numbers this is not a day to panic over the numbers as it was somewhat expected. Last year was a disaster down here but to give them some credit it looks like it is under control & not exploding all through the state or even the suburbs. |
A rough graph of the current options and projections:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0d4a68bc9c.png |
Originally Posted by 43Inches
(Post 11097607)
Much easier to prove, to persuade a person in the age range that gets hit by 20-50% mortality rates that vaccinating is in their interest. As you can see reading back the main issue is the younger folk believing it's like the flu, until they get it and then somehow changing their tune, add to that some well placed conspiracies and bad media.
Anecdotally, the largest group needing to sway is 50-70 year olds unwilling to get AZ, "waiting for Pfizer". Everyone can make their own choice re vaccination - but I really hope they don't get priority over young people who haven't had the 'choice'. |
Originally Posted by ruprecht
(Post 11097671)
Sooner or later, WA is going to have to open up.
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
(Post 11097664)
I couldn't give a damn Gnads, not my state, however I don't want to hear anyone complaining in her next term when she stuffs it again and you had the chance to remove her. That's where the public have their chance to say if these policies were right or wrong. If you don't understand it's your vote that determines policy in these times, then you are lost.
Why do you think McGowan keeps slamming borders shut to WA. Because he won an election in a complete wipeout of the opposition during covid. That result gave him the mandate to keep doing it as needed and more, whether that was the intention of the voters or not, that's what they endorsed. |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11097714)
And listening to talk back today, it seems most ( not all ) people are 100 percent behind Mark.
only old retired blokes with no life who don’t fly anymore yet still frequent aviation sites listen to WA talkback. Either way, I wouldn’t call a talkback audience a good sample. he’s done a great job. Last month, ambulance ramp hours blew through 5000 in a month. That’s 5000 hours of an ambulance sitting outside an ED with a patient inside, unable to get treatment, and with the ambulance unable to be redeployed elsewhere. It’s no wonder he’s so **** scared of COVID. he’s done nothing. He’s a pathetic man who jumps onto the latest public opinion issue and follows the masses. so while you smugly sit in WA now jumping on here every day to share the latest tidbit of minor information and take joy in the decline or end of many pilots careers, remember that not too far into the future, when WA residents see the rest of Australia getting on with life while you’re stuck in the one place (may not bother you personally but it will annoy many expats and others), we’ll be sitting here flipping the bird at you lot saying ‘couldn’t give a toss’ |
Originally Posted by goodonyamate
(Post 11097781)
only old retired blokes with no life who don’t fly anymore yet still frequent aviation sites listen to WA talkback. Either way, I wouldn’t call a talkback audience a good sample.
he’s done a great job. Last month, ambulance ramp hours blew through 5000 in a month. That’s 5000 hours of an ambulance sitting outside an ED with a patient inside, unable to get treatment, and with the ambulance unable to be redeployed elsewhere. It’s no wonder he’s so **** scared of COVID. he’s done nothing. He’s a pathetic man who jumps onto the latest public opinion issue and follows the masses. so while you smugly sit in WA now jumping on here every day to share the latest tidbit of minor information and take joy in the decline or end of many pilots careers, remember that not too far into the future, when WA residents see the rest of Australia getting on with life while you’re stuck in the one place (may not bother you personally but it will annoy many expats and others), we’ll be sitting here flipping the bird at you lot saying ‘couldn’t give a toss’ |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11097811)
I assure you I take no joy in the end of anyone’s job in aviation.. I have many friends still working or tying to work in aviation.
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate
(Post 11097823)
i genuinely hope that’s the case. We get it. Can’t deny WA is in a good place now. McGowan has done NOTHING outside of lock everyone out and claim victory. People are so focussed on COVID they forget about the other stuff. Those ambulance times are diabolical. He won’t spend a cent of all WA’s apparent riches on basic amenities for the public, so where does it all go. When covid does get there, he’s finished.
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Gladys said today we now have to live with this virus. ( Where did this common sense come from). Well if they started with that philosophy from scratch, we wouldn't be in this mess now. Then Scotty says we must suppress the virus. Making up policy on the spot. Next question the UK opened up at 50% with a population of 63 mil. Then want us to open up at 80% with a population of 25 mil. Um, our CHOs obviously failed elementary mathematics never mind physiology talk about that another time.
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If we had started with that philosophy a lot more of us wouldn’t be in this mess now because they'd be dead. So you’re right on that point. Someone failed elementary mathematics, that’s for sure.
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