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SHVC 10th Feb 2022 23:35

Atagi has updated their advice on vaccine with C-19, DA of Victoria has conceded defeat with his 3 vax rule. My question what will MM of WA enforce on international travelers? As an Australian I’m required to have shots to enter WA and fulfill my employment obligations. What will the international tourist be subject to?

BuzzBox 11th Feb 2022 03:21


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11182802)
Atagi has updated their advice on vaccine with C-19, DA of Victoria has conceded defeat with his 3 vax rule. My question what will MM of WA enforce on international travelers? As an Australian I’m required to have shots to enter WA and fulfill my employment obligations. What will the international tourist be subject to?

As of 8 Feb:

(a) a direct international arrival who enters Western Australia and meets both the vaccination requirements and the additional requirements must comply with the self-quarantine requirements; and

(b) a direct international arrival who enters Western Australia and does not meet both the vaccination requirements and the additional requirements must comply with the centre quarantine requirements
"Vaccination requirements" means a full course of an approved COVID-19 vaccine plus a booster vaccination. So, an international tourist who is fully vaccinated and boosted must self-quarantine at a suitable premises for 7 days (plus testing requirements). An international tourist who is fully vaccinated but not boosted must go to hotel quarantine for 14 days. Under Commonwealth rules, an international tourist (ie non-citizen/resident) who is not vaccinated will be denied entry to Australia.

https://www.wa.gov.au/system/files/2...ctions-No4.pdf

SHVC 11th Feb 2022 06:43

So WA is still going full hog with this COVID thing.

Maggie Island 11th Feb 2022 07:19


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11182896)
So WA is still going full hog with this COVID thing.

give em another 28 days:E

cessnapete 12th Feb 2022 08:37

Still no information on this Omicron strain that is about to decimate WA, fill hospitals, and possible mass fatalities . And requires a China style isolation. The Omicron we have in Europe is a very mild affliction for the majority of the vaccinated.. Most of my family have had it in the New Year, and fully recovered without any serious symptoms, in 7/9 days. In my case, unless I had tested positive I would not of known I had the infection. In fact rather than further social restrictions, most are being cancelled in the next few weeks. And the UK now does not require any Testing for entry, for the fully vaccinated. .

Transition Layer 16th Feb 2022 14:34

Has anyone checked on SOPS - are they OK? They’ve been awfully quiet on here since case numbers in WA have started to climb. Really hope the massive numbers of hospitalisations (zero) aren’t causing too much grief.

Or just maybe SOPS can’t reach the keyboard from their hiding spot under the bed.

I’m loving how this is playing out in WA. Rapidly rising case numbers, rapidly falling support for McGowan, an apathetic population refusing to get tested and a slow uptake for boosters.

You reap what you sow McClown. It’s now just a matter of days til WA rejoins the Nation. And not a moment too soon!

WingNut60 16th Feb 2022 15:31


Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 11185108)
.......rapidly falling support for McGowan, an apathetic population refusing to get tested and a slow uptake for boosters.

Yeah, I really liked the West Australian headliner yesterday supporting your statement (above) - "One out of four West Australians oppose McGowan's continuing border policies". Or words to that effect.

Now, if one out of four = 25% then doesn't..................................???????

Jester64 16th Feb 2022 15:39

Todays front page showed that his approval rating has reduced from 91% in September 2020, to 77% in October last year and now at 64%. I'd call that rapidly falling support.

Chad Gates 16th Feb 2022 20:19

115 cases of community transition in WA, compared to 14 from travellers. You have far more chance of catching Covid at SOPS place, than you do from a traveller. His insistence that the borders are “working” is showing him to be a complete boofhead.

KRviator 16th Feb 2022 20:26


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 11185129)
Yeah, I really liked the West Australian headliner yesterday supporting your statement (above) - "One out of four West Australians oppose McGowan's continuing border policies". Or words to that effect.

Now, if one out of four = 25% then doesn't..................................???????

Then there's today's headline...People’s Voice poll shows Mark McGowan’s approval rating has dropped to 64 per cent amid WA border backflip

A nearly 30% drop in approval rating in a matter of months.I don't believe even ScoMo at his worst, or even Gladys with her bonk-buddy & ICAC problems managed to achieve such a rapid fall in their ratings.

Must be a West Australian thing....

EDIT: And just saw another report that The Pestilence has made it into the Tom Price Primary School...Watch Rio Tinto throw a tanty if they have to shut down their TP, Para or Marandoo operations should it take off....

SHVC 16th Feb 2022 20:38

If it’s up there, it has taken off. Lord Daddy will save you all haha. Ethos was always going to be the end result WA people just can’t see it.

dr dre 16th Feb 2022 23:42


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 11185129)
Yeah, I really liked the West Australian headliner yesterday supporting your statement (above) - "One out of four West Australians oppose McGowan's continuing border policies". Or words to that effect.

Now, if one out of four = 25% then doesn't..................................???????

I think you've confused yesterday's headlines with a snap poll taken after the border decision, when cases in the east were just coming off peak. A majority were in favour of the decision, but a majority also thought McGowan should have done more to prepare the health system. Not exactly a ringing endorsement, and after the delay seeing cases plummet over east, big events like the Australian Open fill stadiums, WA make some steps towards responding like increasing RAT supply and increasing booster uptake I think now the support for delaying reopening will have decreased.

The border will be down by early next month at the latest, probably with an announcement early next week. Given the BHP CEO said 2 days ago he wants it open McGowan will do as he is told.


Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 11185108)

I’m loving how this is playing out in WA....... a slow uptake for boosters.

Actually WA has pulled ahead of all bar ACT and Tasmania on total shots, and is second placed behind ACT on boosters, and a fair bit above NSW and Queensland on boosters.

Chad Gates 17th Feb 2022 02:39

So, nobody is signing in anyway, but if you accidentally do, the answer is “I was there for about one hour and forty five minutes”

Sweet. The testing lines just got shorter.

KRviator 17th Feb 2022 04:05


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11185286)
If it’s up there, it has taken off. Lord Daddy will save you all haha. Ethos was always going to be the end result WA people just can’t see it.

Of course it has. That WA seems to think they "only" have 200 cases is laughable. TP doesn't have a particularly huge FIFO population compared to other Pilbara sites either, being more geared towards residential employees, so it wont be as simple as saying "Stay in your donga" - and the majority of FIFO's that do work out of TP stay in town and go to the bottlo, Woolies, the chicken shop, mixing it up with the Resi's anyway...


Originally Posted by C G
So, nobody is signing in anyway, but if you accidentally do, the answer is “I was there for about one hour and forty five minutes”

I'd almost forgo tonight's $80M if that pub would release their CCTV showing the State Daddy there for more than the magic 2 hours...But of course, then he couldn't come to Sydney for the defamation trial as he'd be in Iso...

Transition Layer 17th Feb 2022 08:10


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11185360)
Actually WA has pulled ahead of all bar ACT and Tasmania on total shots, and is second placed behind ACT on boosters, and a fair bit above NSW and Queensland on boosters.

You’re quite right. I saw these numbers myself today and was very surprised. Although it’s possibly a result of the mandate for boosters in WA being much wider reaching than many other states.

Angle of Attack 17th Feb 2022 08:34

It’s now about to explode the case numbers indicate this. The only worry I have is the delayed border opening is going to cause a Slaughterhouse in WA aged care homes. It’s basic maths and I can’t believe the WA government doesn’t see this, Mad Max is over life is great in the East but now we are about to see a disaster in the West, what a debacle….I can’t believe they didn’t predict this, what an idiot…

Angle of Attack 17th Feb 2022 08:38

I find it ironic that yet again the WA outbreak was from a completely flawed hotel quarantine system, Jesus 2 years and still can’t get it right. I honestly believe politicians are in general completely useless. It’s sad but true.

BuzzBox 17th Feb 2022 17:17


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 11185479)
I find it ironic that yet again the WA outbreak was from a completely flawed hotel quarantine system, Jesus 2 years and still can’t get it right. I honestly believe politicians are in general completely useless. It’s sad but true.

Try some basic fact checking. The current outbreak in WA did not originate from the hotel quarantine system. It started with a returned traveller who entered WA from Tasmania on 2 January, when Tasmania was considered ‘medium risk’. The traveller was only required to do 14-days of self-isolation at a suitable premises, not hotel quarantine. The returned traveller tested positive some time after arriving in WA, but in the meantime had infected a casual contact who was out and about in the community.

Chad Gates 17th Feb 2022 22:22

The omicron outbreak started when a hotel Quarantine worker at the Pan pacific contracted it. I believe it was the next day, a security guard at the Hyatt also got omicron. It’s been bubbling along ever since. And now, it going crazy because most West Australians have had enough, and are spreading it through indifference.

BuzzBox 17th Feb 2022 23:08


Originally Posted by Chad Gates (Post 11185810)
The omicron outbreak started when a hotel Quarantine worker at the Pan pacific contracted it. I believe it was the next day, a security guard at the Hyatt also got omicron. It’s been bubbling along ever since. And now, it going crazy because most West Australians have had enough, and are spreading it through indifference.

If you bothered to read the updates provided by the Health Dept, you would know the two infected workers at the quarantine hotels did NOT cause a wider outbreak. All their close contacts were traced and isolated and either tested negative or were isolated while they were infectious. Genetic testing showed the outbreak that is now starting to accelerate originated with the returned traveller from Tasmania.

BuzzBox 17th Feb 2022 23:30


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11185360)
Actually WA has pulled ahead of all bar ACT and Tasmania on total shots, and is second placed behind ACT on boosters, and a fair bit above NSW and Queensland on boosters.

I don't know where the ABC pulls its data, but yesterday's WA Health Dept figures show the following:

First doses: 98.6% (ages 12 and over)
Second doses: 95.1% (ages 12 and over)
Third doses: 54.3% (ages 16 and over)

The third dose rate has been increasing at a little over 1% per day. If that continues, then around 70% of those aged 16 and over will have received a booster by the end of the first week in March.

An article in today's The West Australian claims that hospital workers were told in a presentation by WA's health bosses that the health system is "preparing for a short, sharp peak in infections from mid-March". They supposedly claimed that "West Australians are so heavily vaccinated against COVID that the State’s Omicron wave will potentially peak lower than anywhere else in Australia."
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/wa-he...7#coral_thread

StudentInDebt 18th Feb 2022 04:51


Originally Posted by BuzzBox (Post 11185839)
If you bothered to read the updates provided by the Health Dept, you would know the two infected workers at the quarantine hotels did NOT cause a wider outbreak. All their close contacts were traced and isolated and either tested negative or were isolated while they were infectious. Genetic testing showed the outbreak that is now starting to accelerate originated with the returned traveller from Tasmania.

You can prove anything with facts

tossbag 18th Feb 2022 05:03


"West Australians are so heavily vaccinated against COVID that the State’s Omicron wave will potentially peak lower than anywhere else in Australia."
Good luck with that.

Chad Gates 18th Feb 2022 06:24

Fair enough Buzz. I can’t find that, but I’ll take your word for it.

morno 18th Feb 2022 06:33

March 3, the new February 5

vne165 18th Feb 2022 07:07

Thank goodness...

PoppaJo 18th Feb 2022 07:22

When’s McGowan flying to Sydney to face off Clive? Good timing hey.

BuzzBox 18th Feb 2022 07:26


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11185948)
When’s McGowan flying to Sydney to face off Clive? Good timing hey.

McGowan is due to appear in court in Sydney between 26-28 Feb. He said during the press conference that he wants to avoid accusations like the one you're trying to make and he will therefore do the full 7 days of self-isolation at a hotel on his return from Sydney.

Maggie Island 18th Feb 2022 08:27

As good old George W once said after trapping on a carrier “mission accomplished”. Mods I think it’s time to put this thread out to pasture (along with the last two years…)

KRviator 18th Feb 2022 08:34


Originally Posted by morno (Post 11185938)
March 3, the new February 5

Which year???

Chronic Snoozer 18th Feb 2022 09:13


Originally Posted by KRviator (Post 11185968)
Which year???

This year, 2002.

aussieflyboy 18th Feb 2022 10:19

McGowan better bring a fresh shirt if flying commercially. I’ve heard there’s quite a substantial cash prize for the first cabin crew to nail him with a ‘spilled’ coffee.

vne165 18th Feb 2022 10:35

Aussie - where can I donate?

Turnleft080 18th Feb 2022 12:01


Originally Posted by KRviator (Post 11185968)
Which year???

Funny you should say that. My dads record collection contains a 7 inch vinyl single released by RCA records of Zager & Evans "In the year 2525". When someone mentions WA or MM, I think of that one hit wonder. It's in my head.

morno 18th Feb 2022 18:15


Originally Posted by KRviator (Post 11185968)
Which year???

Lets not be too specific :E

SHVC 18th Feb 2022 21:25

Welcome back to the West! Headline in todays Australian. Should be The West rejoins Australia and the world. Bunch of muppets that government is.

KRviator 18th Feb 2022 21:48

Question is - how many people are going to be willing to risk it, given McGowan's proclivity for shutting the border mid-flight, or changing the date that was "Locked in"...

Apart from immediate family and interstate FIFO crew going to work, I don't think the tourist market will rebound as quickly as they're hoping, and as a tourist, there's not much in WA that I cannot get elsewhere in Oz, that doesn't have the risk of a disrupted holiday.

minigundiplomat 19th Feb 2022 02:20


Originally Posted by KRviator (Post 11186332)
Question is - how many people are going to be willing to risk it, given McGowan's proclivity for shutting the border mid-flight, or changing the date that was "Locked in"...

Apart from immediate family and interstate FIFO crew going to work, I don't think the tourist market will rebound as quickly as they're hoping, and as a tourist, there's not much in WA that I cannot get elsewhere in Oz, that doesn't have the risk of a disrupted holiday.

i don’t disagree - but if you’re heading to Qld in lieu of WA, remember Palachook was open and closed like a bedside drawer in a brothel until recently…..

peoples memories are shorter than we expect.

airdualbleedfault 19th Feb 2022 02:34


Originally Posted by minigundiplomat (Post 11186402)
i don’t disagree - but if you’re heading to Qld in lieu of WA, remember Palachook was open and closed like a bedside drawer in a brothel until recently…..

peoples memories are shorter than we expect.

Indeed they have , apparently Mcclown still has a 64% approval rating, they ain't too bright over there :}

Jester64 19th Feb 2022 02:42


Originally Posted by airdualbleedfault (Post 11186404)
Indeed they have , apparently Mcclown still has a 64% approval rating, they ain't too bright over there :}

Meaning they approve whatever he says and does. A lot of people took this as two-thirds actually wanted the borders to stay closed - which wasn’t what the surveys / polls were asking, they simply agreed with his decision, but the majority of us wanted it open at some point in the near future, because two-thirds of them agreed with him for a 05FEB reopening right until the point he back-flipped, then they agreed with his back-flip.

Anyhow bring on the reopening and the increase in recruitment activity that we can see happening amongst the QF group. I’ve been lucky, wish the same for others.


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