Whilst mental health and suicide is a growing issue, most are related to ptsd, drugs and alcohol, being the underlying issues. Whilst covid may play a role in that, no-one goes from life is wonderful to suicide in 3 months. Covid then cannot possibly be the root cause. The only way forward for the time being is to eradicate the virus, that is the decision of the public at large.
Lets get it done. There will be no opening of borders while the virus is in the community.

Turnleft080

At risk of feeding the troll, listen to the interview and stop being deceitful and selective.

He clearly says, "as at July 20" some 400 people have suicided. (NOT 400 since July 20). 400 for the first ca. 200 days of the year is 2 per day. 2 a day too many, yes, no-one is arguing with that. And the coroner also states why the suicide figures are not publicised - with good reason.

Remind us what the COVID-19 death rate is - per day - with only about 3-500 daily cases? Even my primary school kids could extrapolate that out if you can't.


Framing your "argument" with emotional heartstrings of "sorry" and "touching" to leverage off the tragedy of suicide to advance another cause is despicable.

Wed 29th., Just announced on Radio 2GB (SY) The QLD Premier has just banned ALL entries into QLD from 'Greater Sydney'.....which encompasses some 44 Local Councils in and around the SY area.....including the SY CBD.......

WEF 0100 Saturday Morning, 1st Aug.

This announcement coincides with the claim that QLD Police are investigation 2 women who allegedly flew on 2 Virgin Flights, ML to SY, then a separate flight SY to BN, and claimed to have travelled only from SY on 'Travel Declaration' on arrival at BN.....and have since tested 'Positive'
Police are investigating - and both women are said to be in hospital in BN.....

What can one say..???

Spot on Xeptu although I'm not sure how many triggered woke milkenials here will agree

Well there goes any come back to aviation in 2020, QLD premier closes border 12:01 Saturday morning because two people traveled from Victoria with covid.

Not only that, these two teenagers were out and about in the SE Qld community for 8 days, most of that time infectious allegedly, Multiple Shopping Centres, Pubs, Restaurants, Churches were visited, sounds like a complete Cluster about to occur.

So why close to Sydney tho, these people miss lead the authorities and were in Victoria!

Maybe, just maybe, its because these two were 'caught'.

How many others might there be...and....even then, how many would have given a 'false' address to gain entry......??

Who knows.....???

Well it sounds promising that the QLD government is saying it's now a criminal matter. Send them to jail for 10 years.
Because they traveled to QLD from NSW.

has anyone anywhere in Australia actually paid corona fines ? Even if it did go to court, most would just plead no money.

ex ABC: 'I'm absolutely furious': Premier declares Greater Sydney hotspot......
 

ABC article on today's developments: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...itive/12499794

Extract:

VA: MLB-SYD-BNE on 21 July.

Extract:rgds
S28- BE

Still does not make sense to close off to Sydney!

Are the government health directions to isolate punishable by jail time?

That would be more of a deterrent than $1000 fine - Say 3 months jail for breaching self isolation requirements.

Failure to comply with any VIC direction is punishable with fines only: potentially 120 penalty units for an individual; 600 for body corporate.

These two idiots were only caught because they're now in hospital... they will hardly be the only two people that managed to get around the border restrictions.

I wonder how many others there have got through?

What a shame.

Yeah that's for Victorians in VIC though, in the other states we feed them to the wildlife. :)

Posted by normanton
Well it sounds promising that the QLD government is saying it's now a criminal matter. Send them to jail for 10 years.


In the good old days, in the 60s, hangman Henry Bolty would of done just that. In the 40s, they would of been sent to the post Nuremburg trial style.
In the 1700s in the Napoleon reign, just like witches fate, the spectacular angled slanting blade would be released on descent in the middle of Place De La Concorde and wind the clock
down to the 1400s the English Clergy would of burnt these two Vics either side of Joan of Arc. While I'm at it, lets take one more leap to the Roman Empire,
a crucifixion, we can't do that (that's a blokes only club) a stoning, maybe, though Nero was always on the lookout for pet food for his lions.

Hope the Qld borders remain closed forever,the state is on the verge of bankruptcy.
She can find money outside of australia to support her almost non existent economy,she has & always will use this for political points scoring & nothing else.
Never hear her mention how many tests they do daily,like Trump says,'if we dont test,the numbers will come down'.

I suspect Greater Sydney was labelled a hotspot to basically make it impossible to get in To QLD by air deceitfully, closes the loophole this couple used. Basically now if you fly out of MEL via anywhere into QLD you will get caught up in mandatory Quarantine. Only loophole is driving I guess, but you have to be really determined to drive BNE to MEL and back for a week or so down there, while I don’t really agree with the total ban it’s a sledgehammer approach because of the idiots like these. 🤬

what about the mining industry, that will keep QLD going. They don't need the rest of us.

We're doing fine up here thank you. You worry about your sh1thole down there.

"Only loophole is driving I guess, but you have to be really determined to drive BNE to MEL and back for a week or so down there".
Perhaps they should have taken your advice AoA - could have fitted a lot more of their alleged BV "shopping trip" in the boot.
Taking a look at some of their FB friends, I reckon they ought to be doing a bit of ISIS tracing too.....

If CV-19 spreads everywhere then there will be no economy and the whole country will be back in lockdown.

What we have seen is that eradication is the only way to fully open the economy. Suppression does not work in the long term, 1 case will always become 2, becomes 4 etc...

NZ domestic demand is back up to 70% of pre covid, whats Australia ? 5 - 10%? Less?

Agree eradication would be ideal. But the morons of society haven’t changed their behaviour to facilitate this, and they never well. The ship of eradication has sailed (at least in Vic). So short of getting a chainsaw and cutting Victoria out of Australia I have no idea what the answer is and neither do the leaders.

Prevention would have been better.

Vietnam managed it.

Well, until someone made a more determined effort to share it with them.

these comments are unbelievable. Oh my, this thing will last a long time

Not a fan of her however regardless of whether or not she mentions how many tests are done daily it isn't a state secret. If you are really interested/concerned you can find details of the number of tests completed on the QLD COVID-19 website.

Also the Australian government health website publishes figures for the total number of tests per state.

Blubak
I agree without NSW and Vic and tourism QLD is screwed.
wait till they ask for taxpayers money from the commonwealth, Vic and NSW is the powerhouse of the Australian economy.

Ragnor
Qld mining will keep the economy going in Qld, so funny

Vic is testing over 17000 per 100000 Qld 8000 as of 13th July

With Covid tourism is screwed - its a no brainer.

NZ is a lot smaller and the Govt there had the luxury of not having to deal with 6 States and one Territory who actually control what goes on within their borders and are extremely protective of outside interference.

A lot of Australians do not realise, or refuse to believe, that the PM has very little or no control on what occurs within a State or Territory, especially where health is concerned.

The reason for greater Sydney being declaring a hot spot.

It's a lot easier to practice eradication (or more correctly, extreme suppression) if you are on an island the size of Victoria with less population and borders/access you can totally control.

I can only sympathise with the people of Victoria. Where I am we have no known community transmission, but we have our fair share of idiots and who gives a F#ck people, like anywhere else. We are prepared and ready to bug out to our safe zone should that change. That is something we closely monitor and do everything we can to not get infected. We know at some point the decision will be made, it's time to go. We don't expect any intrusions in our safe zone on account of location. I'm devastated that it's come to this on account of the balls ups and incompetence.

Who is "we"?
Washing your hands and wearing a mask will pretty much cover you. This is not some zombie apocalypse. You don't have to run away and live in a cave. Get a grip man.

if it’s a simple as that can you explain why so many health care workers are infected?

Actually very few health care workers become infected. The only ones I know who did were unaware a patient had CoVID when they treated them.

Healthcare workers infected in VIC currently stands at over 700.

Correction - "The Premier said 928 active cases in Victoria were connected to aged care settings, and 614 active cases were healthcare workers.

A total of 1,030 healthcare workers have been infected with coronavirus since the pandemic began."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...pdate/12510618

We is my family and we won't be living in a cave, it is my summer residence, my favourite place to be and we won't be doing it tough. As I said previously, we have front line medical staff in the family, the girls have little confidence in current policy and procedure, given how some of them have been asked to relieve victorians because they have fallen to infection, my guess is that their concerns are correct, I wouldn't expect it to be any different here.

On the medical front, the girls identified a number of weaknesses and have impressed upon management to strengthen, check and assure all to no avail. Given Victoria had 3 months to prepare like us in full knowledge of the weaknesses, particularly in the aged care sector and our most vulnerable, only to be the very first to go down like the canary in the cave. The girls are right, this is going to be a debacle, one we won't be present to watch. What else can we do. To try and draw a comparison, you think the Medical Industry is up to speed like the Airline Industry, it's not. You are carrying known dangerous goods in the cargo hold. The smoke detectors are fitted but not tested. The retardant lines are fitted but the agent bottles are not. Then one of your flight attendants says, we think we have smoke in the cabin.
On Wednesday we had the worst case of ambulance ramping at our brand new state of the art hospital since it opened, not one of them covid, so how do you think this is going to go.