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Old 10th Sep 2023, 07:56
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Originally Posted by aseriesofleftturns
What standard 😂. You blokes have such an inflated sense of self. Just talk to the ex CX crew who have joined as SO's. Overwhelming consensus is how poor the said standard is.
🙄 yeah, because I’m sure all of those former Capts and FOs, pissed off at being stuck in the back seat again thanks to Swire and the CCP, are completely impartial and are without the merest hint of sour grapes thinking “I could do this better.”
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Old 10th Sep 2023, 08:49
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Originally Posted by Global Aviator
How strange a thread turns into a pissing contest.

Would it not make more sense for the group to have a standard interview criteria and process for all entities, then negate the need for a final mainline interview?

It has always perplexed me how one can be flying for one entity go to the next fail an interview yet go back to flying at the original. In a world where we operate to SOPS why not bring it all in line.

Whoops talking common sense.

Back to mines longer than yours.
Exactly this, which is why I said what I did. The problem is that there isn’t one, so a “filter” is required. Think about NJS pilots who didn’t have to go through Qantas recruiting (and in some cases possibly failed in the past), and now all of a sudden work for the Group because Qantas bought them.
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Old 10th Sep 2023, 09:21
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Originally Posted by morno
Exactly this, which is why I said what I did. The problem is that there isn’t one, so a “filter” is required. Think about NJS pilots who didn’t have to go through Qantas recruiting (and in some cases possibly failed in the past), and now all of a sudden work for the Group because Qantas bought them.
Similar to what occurred with the TAA Pilots in 92
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Old 11th Sep 2023, 01:41
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can you apply to mainline externally whilst being an "inernal" , i.e just putting an application in and not waiting for the next round of internal EOIS?
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Old 11th Sep 2023, 01:56
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Originally Posted by morno
Exactly this, which is why I said what I did. The problem is that there isn’t one, so a “filter” is required. Think about NJS pilots who didn’t have to go through Qantas recruiting (and in some cases possibly failed in the past), and now all of a sudden work for the Group because Qantas bought them.
Wait you believe a story telling session to some HR reps straight out of uni is a "filter"? Not to mention they are the same ones hiring for other group aocs. Nothing to do at all with the person doing exactly the same job? 😂
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Old 11th Sep 2023, 02:06
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Wait you believe a story telling session to some HR reps straight out of uni is a "filter"? Not to mention they are the same ones hiring for other group aocs. Nothing to do at all with the person doing exactly the same job? 😂
So you’ve obviously never done it, says it all.

In that case, maybe we should ditch the whole recruiting process entirely. Go back to the old GA days of having to know someone first, then a beer with the chief pilot and you can start by sweeping the hangar out for a week. Is that your preferred method?
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Old 11th Sep 2023, 03:07
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Originally Posted by morno
So you’ve obviously never done it, says it all.

In that case, maybe we should ditch the whole recruiting process entirely. Go back to the old GA days of having to know someone first, then a beer with the chief pilot and you can start by sweeping the hangar out for a week. Is that your preferred method?
Ya certainly get to know someone’s character that way! 😉

The interview process no doubt has its merits but seriously if you are good enough for one group airline should be good enough for all.

Ps no I’ve never done the QF interview, probably wouldn’t get through the psych test!!

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Old 11th Sep 2023, 03:31
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Ps no I’ve never done the QF interview, probably wouldn’t get through the psych test!!
Just cheat like so many! You can pay experts to do the testing or have a smart friend sit in.

If it wasn’t so hilarious and the job not so important, it would probably peeve those of us who sweated through the testing legitimately.
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Old 11th Sep 2023, 07:39
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Originally Posted by Global Aviator
Ya certainly get to know someone’s character that way! 😉

The interview process no doubt has its merits but seriously if you are good enough for one group airline should be good enough for all.

Ps no I’ve never done the QF interview, probably wouldn’t get through the psych test!!
You would think so - but you should
see some of the ones coming through lately.. if I wasn’t sitting next to them I wouldn’t have believed it.
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Old 11th Sep 2023, 19:53
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
Similar to what occurred with the TAA Pilots in 92
Same happened with the Dragon Air Cargo guys in 2008 and Dragon Air ML in 2020, some bombed out at a CX selection years ago and later on joined CX at the bottom of the seniority list (not that seniority means anything in CX these days)
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 02:19
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Ahh The 2 greatest words in the english language:

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Old 12th Sep 2023, 02:35
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Regarding Qantas Group recruitment, I gather there are a few directly from the Qantas Group Pilot Academy joining Qantaslink and Jetstar. Obviously, they don't meet the hours required by external applicants, but do they go through the same selection and interview process with psychometric tests, group activity, sim assessment etc as externals? Nothing against cadets getting in though the fast lane, but just curious.
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 03:05
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do they go through the same selection and interview process with psychometric tests, group activity, sim assessment etc as externals?
Yes they do, once trained. Not 100% on whether an interview is guaranteed, but rumblings are that Link interviews are being turned down for JQ ones. Some complaints of completing program and receiving a no thanks, even though nothing was officially promised.

There’s also a screening while applying to FTA that has aptitude stuff in it.
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 13:44
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It hasn't been a J or Q interview. The panel is usually both a J and Link pilot. Rejecting the offer is another story.
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 21:47
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I’d complain too if I’d paid 180k to join the Qantas Pilot Academy and then couldn’t get paid work within the Qantas group.
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 22:10
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I’d complain too if I’d paid 180k to join the Qantas Pilot Academy and then couldn’t get paid work within the Qantas group.
Would you? Where does it say that you graduate into a group aircraft?
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 22:19
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Would you? Where does it say that you graduate into a group aircraft?
It doesn’t. There’s just a certain amount of students who feel they are owed something.

From what I’ve heard, the process is capturing most of those people.
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Old 13th Sep 2023, 07:37
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Why would you pay extra to go to the Qantas Pilot Academy if you didn’t think it would give you an inside run into the Qantas group? Might as well train at the local aero club and pocket the difference.
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Old 13th Sep 2023, 08:51
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Because there is probably a higher than normal chance to get a gig rather than a guaranteed one, which someone implied.
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Old 18th Sep 2023, 08:08
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For those who are asking about when applications for mainline will reopen - there’s just been an EOI for pilot assessors (current pilots to sit on interview panels) throughout 2024 so one would think applications would be open again soon, maybe even late this year.

If you’re close to the minimum requirements and wish to apply might be time to start making sure all the boxes are ticked.
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