Qantas Recruitment

[Australopithecus]

Hmmm. You guys should round up every older pilot who didn’t get hired, which would be all of them, and get a juicy class action going.

[Global Aviator]

Well, wouldn't being an SO be relaxing into retirement?

[engine out]

Looks like direct recruiting of SO’s onto the A380 is also about to start happening.

[piesang]

Q-Link salary

Anyone know what the starting salary is on the B717 at Q-Link/National Jet?

[Gunner747400]

Originally Posted by piesang

Anyone know what the starting salary is on the B717 at Q-Link/National Jet?

Latest EBA can be found: National Jet Systems Pty. Ltd. Pilot Enterprise Agreement 2022 | Fair Work Commission (fwc.gov.au)

First year pay FO is 118.5k.

[piesang]

Thanks Gunner

[RealSatoshi]

Meanwhile in the rest of the world, none of this is required for 'Group Pilots':

British Airways are recruiting Direct Entry Captains for their EuroFlyer subsidiary on their A320 fleet based at London Gatwick in the UK. You will join the BA Mainline Master Seniority List on Day 1 and eventually get bidding rights to Heathrow / Long-Haul.

[ScepticalOptomist]

Originally Posted by Global Aviator

Well, wouldn't being an SO be relaxing into retirement?

Couldn’t think of a better way to do it if you still wanted to keep your toe in!

[fr8ter]

Hi all, could anyone please shed some light on the roster for A330 SO in Sydney? For instance what does a normal month look like? Length and frequency of trips? Destinations?
Is it viable to commute from the NT or WA? Do many SO's commute from interstate? How often do you get reserve periods and what is the callout time?
Any info will be appreciated thanks

[dr dre]

Originally Posted by fr8ter

Hi all, could anyone please shed some light on the roster for A330 SO in Sydney? For instance what does a normal month look like? Length and frequency of trips? Destinations?
Is it viable to commute from the NT or WA? Do many SO's commute from interstate? How often do you get reserve periods and what is the callout time?
Any info will be appreciated thanks

Commuting to the 330 is doable, but not the easiest in terms of a commute. Wouldn’t plan to spend too many years doing that. Also runs off strict seniority for bidding, so if there’s not much more recruitment below you you’ll be waiting a while for good rosters.

However if you’re in WA there’s also the 787, and a short wait to 737 FO. Far better options than an extended commute to the 330.

Reserve rosters (blank lines) are now shared amongst the pilot group so no more perpetual reserves.

[Contigo]

Originally Posted by dr dre

Reserve rosters (blank lines) are now shared amongst the pilot group so no more perpetual reserves.

Thanks for the info Dr Dre,

Regarding reserve the perpetual reserve you talk of is it spread across all rosters ie may have a reserve period in any roster or are there whole reserve rosters for the full 56 (or significant portion) of the roster. Also anyone know what the call out time from reserve generally is?

Thanks
C

[q400link]

Does anyone know anything about the 'cut-e' test the qantas academy seem to be using these days? Seems to be various types online

TIA

[ScepticalOptomist]

Originally Posted by Contigo

Thanks for the info Dr Dre,

Regarding reserve the perpetual reserve you talk of is it spread across all rosters ie may have a reserve period in any roster or are there whole reserve rosters for the full 56 (or significant portion) of the roster. Also anyone know what the call out time from reserve generally is?

Thanks
C

You do the entire 56 day roster as a “blank line” as opposed to the normal “pattern line”.

This will be made up of days off and available days. If you are called on an available day it will generally be for a duty with at least 8 hours notice. Ie the next day.

You can / will also be assigned standby duties on some of those available days which usually last 12hrs. You can be assigned up to three days in a row. During those standbys you are required to leave home within 45minutes AND be available to depart within 3hrs.

Hope that helps!

[Australopithecus]

Also be aware that commuting the day of duty is now impossible for most duties due to fatigue risk management, and in fact actual fatigue.

In SYD (and maybe elsewhere too) there are commuter rooms for rent for those reserve occasions. You will need a high pain threshold.

[aussieflyboy]

Recruitment on to B Scale has begun…

[cLeArIcE]

Originally Posted by aussieflyboy

Recruitment on to B Scale has begun…

Didn't think that happened until the a350 arrived?

[engine out]

Think the EBA says “aircraft ordered” and “commenced recruitment of SOs into the A330/350 SFF category”. So if new SOs are being recruited as 330/350 SFF category they will be under new rate. Wouldn’t surprise me for Qantas to do that and say you fly both, but will only fly 330 for now.

[walesregent]

Originally Posted by engine out

Think the EBA says “aircraft ordered” and “commenced recruitment of SOs into the A330/350 SFF category”. So if new SOs are being recruited as 330/350 SFF category they will be under new rate. Wouldn’t surprise me for Qantas to do that and say you fly both, but will only fly 330 for now.

will that apply to recruits onto all LH fleets now or just the 330? Is there any info onto how much it actually affects take home pay?

[Sparrows.]

Originally Posted by engine out

Wouldn’t surprise me for Qantas to do that and say you fly both, but will only fly 330 for now.

Pretty hard to justify training (“commenced recruitment of S/O’s into the A330/A350 SFF category”) onto an aircraft that doesn’t arrive for over 2 years….

Hopefully AIPA think this is something to stand up and fight for, rather than thinking it’s a 50/50 if we win, and just rolling over as per usual!

[Chad Gates]

Once it begins, it's applicable to all fleets. I think the 787 rate is different, but with the way the rules work, it equates to the same pay. So I guess that means S/O's are now on fleet pay.

A bit of a stretch to suggest they are recruiting for SFF, but I'd suggest it's probably legal.