Qantas Recruitment
BR perhaps you could highlight with particularity what elements of the 350 page LH contract are as you say "shit" (is it the $500 daily cash allowance in London that might be causing such angst, I wonder)
& Same for SH contract - the 53.5 monthly mins sound particularly oppressive . Is it the six months of "holiday" guys often get when they do an upgrade (particularly WB)
Perhaps you could mention any pax carriers that have a better deal ?
This could be enlightening & important information for chaps & chapettes as may wish to apply for employ there ?
Just brush up on your language skills folks & I am sure Fritz & Pierre , will just say "come on down" to Aussie EU passport holders
I would think only Lufthansa, perhaps KLM & Air France - might come anywhere within a bulls roar . & AF well its economically a basket case for decades isn't it , just propped up by French govt
& first two will only work if you join as real young-un straight out of HS or Uni I would think
But I here you tell us about these wonderful opportunities in USA with the megabucks
But to be put fully in the picture , we need to look at all the facts
Let's imagine for a moment the life of a US Pilot , done 30 to 35 years
He had a good run 1990s , the furlough of perhaps 5 to 15 years due 2001 & GFC . & he may well have lost his entire pensions (United certainly did ) when his airline entered chapter 11
This could be a trivia question . In what USA Airlines did the pilots lose all of their pensions this century , as we know United , American , Delta all filed chapter 11 bankruptcy
Then we could perhaps ask another question , in what year did the pilot wages of the big 3 - again become equal to QF mainline
Its my idea so I nominate myself to go first - I say the year of our lord 2014
Remember also WB low seniority in USA (& you can get assigned to it as a direct hire) , must be ready to enjoy perhaps up to several years of permanent reserve
This would perhaps be a little too much for the sweet boys of Aust & NZ you might think
All that glitters it not gold
& Same for SH contract - the 53.5 monthly mins sound particularly oppressive . Is it the six months of "holiday" guys often get when they do an upgrade (particularly WB)
Perhaps you could mention any pax carriers that have a better deal ?
This could be enlightening & important information for chaps & chapettes as may wish to apply for employ there ?
Just brush up on your language skills folks & I am sure Fritz & Pierre , will just say "come on down" to Aussie EU passport holders
I would think only Lufthansa, perhaps KLM & Air France - might come anywhere within a bulls roar . & AF well its economically a basket case for decades isn't it , just propped up by French govt
& first two will only work if you join as real young-un straight out of HS or Uni I would think
But I here you tell us about these wonderful opportunities in USA with the megabucks
But to be put fully in the picture , we need to look at all the facts
Let's imagine for a moment the life of a US Pilot , done 30 to 35 years
He had a good run 1990s , the furlough of perhaps 5 to 15 years due 2001 & GFC . & he may well have lost his entire pensions (United certainly did ) when his airline entered chapter 11
This could be a trivia question . In what USA Airlines did the pilots lose all of their pensions this century , as we know United , American , Delta all filed chapter 11 bankruptcy
Then we could perhaps ask another question , in what year did the pilot wages of the big 3 - again become equal to QF mainline
Its my idea so I nominate myself to go first - I say the year of our lord 2014
Remember also WB low seniority in USA (& you can get assigned to it as a direct hire) , must be ready to enjoy perhaps up to several years of permanent reserve
This would perhaps be a little too much for the sweet boys of Aust & NZ you might think
All that glitters it not gold
Last edited by Makiko; 19th Apr 2023 at 11:14.
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NJS are always going to be on worse conditions than QF SH as they are operating a smaller aircraft (although it’s good to see them striving for better!).
If one was to go with QF SH is my roster fixed a week or so out? Ie: can I pick the kids up from school if I’m rostered a 9am sign on/2pm sign off (ignoring potential delays ect) or can things just be changed whenever?
Last edited by aussieflyboy; 19th Apr 2023 at 11:04.
I’ve since been informed this is very Base dependent with NJS. Melbourne getting a lot of overnights and significantly more hours than Brisbane/Canberra. Overnights with QF SH appear to be averaged out across the Bases and they have a better roster bidding system.
NJS are always going to be on worse conditions than QF SH as they are operating a smaller aircraft (although it’s good to seem them striving for better!).
If one was to go with QF SH is my roster fixed a week or so out? Ie: can I pick the kids up from school if I’m rostered a 9am sign on/2pm sign off (ignoring potential delays ect) or can things just be changed whenever?
NJS are always going to be on worse conditions than QF SH as they are operating a smaller aircraft (although it’s good to seem them striving for better!).
If one was to go with QF SH is my roster fixed a week or so out? Ie: can I pick the kids up from school if I’m rostered a 9am sign on/2pm sign off (ignoring potential delays ect) or can things just be changed whenever?
I am hopeful that Qf is not stupid enough to employ you.
You would be a PIA. From day 1.
This is a QF Recruitment thread so it’s a reasonable discussion to determine the type of job that QF offers especially considering the opportunities on offer from others around (many of whom are offering a better overall deal)
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It's pretty much fixed from roster release. On day of ops they may get you to extend and operate more sectors, but that's rare. Low minimum guarantee means you can drop work easily and get more time off, or pickup trips for more $$ if you desire.
Yeah extra sectors does happen but not often ime. The catch for school kids etc is more likely operational delays getting home reliably on time. A solid backup is needed, time to spare - go by air...
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The numbers that have been spoken about for quite some time about the next training year would indicate that the published vacancies are not even half of the total numbers that will be trained over the next year, there’ll be even more residual vacancies.
No those numbers are just to maintain the current level of flying plus whatever aircraft are coming back over the next year.
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Nah it is a coincidence. Anyone who knows how the internal machinations of how this major corporation works knows that slots in one part of the group don’t appear that fast after an ACCC announcement.
The numbers that have been spoken about for quite some time about the next training year would indicate that the published vacancies are not even half of the total numbers that will be trained over the next year, there’ll be even more residual vacancies.
No those numbers are just to maintain the current level of flying plus whatever aircraft are coming back over the next year.
The numbers that have been spoken about for quite some time about the next training year would indicate that the published vacancies are not even half of the total numbers that will be trained over the next year, there’ll be even more residual vacancies.
No those numbers are just to maintain the current level of flying plus whatever aircraft are coming back over the next year.
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Given the choice of why something happens at QF - F@#k Up vs conspiracy - I’d pick the first every time!
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