Qantas Recruitment
Hearing the latest 787 courses are being moved day 1 to the 380 on the new B Scale, stopping the current SO’s from moving across and getting the old $$.
surely that’s going to piss off a few…
anyone in the know? Is 380 only SYD base?
Wonder if MEL/PER 787 guys/gals are being forced to move to SYD if this is the case.
surely that’s going to piss off a few…
anyone in the know? Is 380 only SYD base?
Wonder if MEL/PER 787 guys/gals are being forced to move to SYD if this is the case.
- Forcing SO’s onto LWOP and loosing AL accrual.
- Preventing current SO’s progressing onto the 380 as there’s a overall pilot shortage.
- Assigning AL due to a surplus of pilots. Wtf!
- Changing fleet types to new hires after signing a contract to a B scale.
Thats one way to Pi$$ off the future
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It's all good though, you have a choice, and if it doesn't suit you, you need not apply. Simple.
Has there ever been any direct entry FO recruitment to Qantas or is it ever only SO? Thinking about making the move, but starting as a SO would be a tuff pill to swallow.
There’s a chance that you could be offered F/O on the 737 after commencing, possibly even just before starting. However I wouldn’t hang my hat on it.
Otherwise no, you’re an S/O.
Otherwise no, you’re an S/O.
As long as you're happy with SH then it shouldn't be a long wait for F/O.
Curious why it is a tough pill to swallow. The Second Officer is all care and no responsibility. Get a hobby and go to work as little as possible. Lifestyle will ultimately outweigh which seat you sit in. But like everyone else is saying, the FO upgrade is fairly quick, at which point you will be earning on par with other narrow-body Captains in Australia. Otherwise, you can go work for a subsidiary and learn the hard way.
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Qantas Airways Limited Pilots (Short Haul) Enterprise Agreement 2020 (EBA8)
There’s several hundred pages for you to wade through. Just remember the pay rates for SH are a little misleading, those numbers are based on 53.4 hours per BP (28 days), when in reality the average hours rostered per BP is more like 65-70, and the ability to go higher if you choose.
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Qantas Airways Limited Pilots (Long Haul) Enterprise Agreement 2020
Qantas Airways Limited Pilots (Short Haul) Enterprise Agreement 2020 (EBA8)
There’s several hundred pages for you to wade through. Just remember the pay rates for SH are a little misleading, those numbers are based on 53.4 hours per BP (28 days), when in reality the average hours rostered per BP is more like 65-70, and the ability to go higher if you choose.
Qantas Airways Limited Pilots (Short Haul) Enterprise Agreement 2020 (EBA8)
There’s several hundred pages for you to wade through. Just remember the pay rates for SH are a little misleading, those numbers are based on 53.4 hours per BP (28 days), when in reality the average hours rostered per BP is more like 65-70, and the ability to go higher if you choose.
You don’t get much of a choice on how little you wish to be scheduled to work-rosters get built at the divisor for the fleet. When you are junior in the rotating seniority (737) you will work circa 18/28 days. When senior you may be able to fly just under half of the 28 days.
Something tells me however that down the road the company will find a way to coerce recent hires onto the A220 for shit pay.
Something tells me however that down the road the company will find a way to coerce recent hires onto the A220 for shit pay.
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You don’t get much of a choice on how little you wish to be scheduled to work-rosters get built at the divisor for the fleet. When you are junior in the rotating seniority (737) you will work circa 18/28 days. When senior you may be able to fly just under half of the 28 days.
Something tells me however that down the road the company will find a way to coerce recent hires onto the A220 for shit pay.
Something tells me however that down the road the company will find a way to coerce recent hires onto the A220 for shit pay.
Or you could say an A320 pilot with Qantas will only be paid $20K a year more to operate an aircraft that is 30% bigger. Is the Qantas contract considered mainline or the NJS one mainline?
A220s seem to be painted with Qantas not QantasLink…

Why would you want to work more than 50 hours in 28 days!? The idea is to work less not more!
Early nineties I knew a "Senior" SO on the QF 744. Yeah, talk about all care and no responsibility. He had a grin from ear to ear every time I saw him. Wasn't interested in upgrading and had a successful car yard with his brother. Apart from volunteering to do the walkaround in the rain, staring out front in the cruise and putting charts away, he did SFA. A niggly captain once reported him for not spending enough time in the cockpit. Not hard to guess where he was and who he was trying to impress. Anyways, long time ago......guess characters like him don't slip through the cracks anymore.