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Old 10th Apr 2023, 07:41
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Still no start date for me either, I got on the hold file sometime in August or September. I'm external if that makes a difference.
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 23:37
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But they are a good company and will look after me for 20 years right? Right?
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 01:06
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Originally Posted by Freeotispriest2020
But they are a good company and will look after me for 20 years right? Right?

Like your cheque is in the mail and I’m here from the ATO to help you.
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 04:40
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Originally Posted by Freeotispriest2020
But they are a good company and will look after me for 20 years right? Right?
Sadly, still the best gig going in Aus. And they know it.
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 10:13
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
Sadly, still the best gig going in Aus. And they know it.
Maybe if you a Captain. I can’t imagine sitting in the back seat for 17 hours earning $100K a year is all that great…
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 10:38
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
Maybe if you a Captain. I can’t imagine sitting in the back seat for 17 hours earning $100K a year is all that great…
Sure, if you a captain it probably is better, but you can't be that without be a SO first. 17 years though is being a bit dramatic. Maybe that will be reality, but it's not at the moment.

It's all good though, you have a choice, and if it doesn't suit you, you need not apply. Simple.
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 23:31
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
Maybe if you a Captain. I can’t imagine sitting in the back seat for 17 hours earning $100K a year is all that great…
Choice is a wonderful luxury. Plenty of new hires going straight to FO on the 737.
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Old 14th Apr 2023, 13:01
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Has there ever been any direct entry FO recruitment to Qantas or is it ever only SO? Thinking about making the move, but starting as a SO would be a tuff pill to swallow.
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Old 14th Apr 2023, 13:07
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There’s a chance that you could be offered F/O on the 737 after commencing, possibly even just before starting. However I wouldn’t hang my hat on it.

Otherwise no, you’re an S/O.
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Old 14th Apr 2023, 13:31
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Originally Posted by sellect
Has there ever been any direct entry FO recruitment to Qantas or is it ever only SO? Thinking about making the move, but starting as a SO would be a tuff pill to swallow.
There's direct entry to F/O, but 737 F/O slots might be available in most bases bar Brisbane very soon after starting, BNE maybe a year or so wait. Melbourne F/O slots were being given out to new hires days after starting a few months ago. They didn't even bother with S/O training.

As long as you're happy with SH then it shouldn't be a long wait for F/O.

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Old 14th Apr 2023, 14:18
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There's direct entry to F/O
​​​​​​​Typo? "no"?
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Old 14th Apr 2023, 16:04
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Thanks for the replies. Are the any sources of up-to-date information regarding T&C, payscales etc, the info on ppjn seems rather dated?
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Old 14th Apr 2023, 22:16
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Originally Posted by sellect
Has there ever been any direct entry FO recruitment to Qantas or is it ever only SO? Thinking about making the move, but starting as a SO would be a tuff pill to swallow.
Curious why it is a tough pill to swallow. The Second Officer is all care and no responsibility. Get a hobby and go to work as little as possible. Lifestyle will ultimately outweigh which seat you sit in. But like everyone else is saying, the FO upgrade is fairly quick, at which point you will be earning on par with other narrow-body Captains in Australia. Otherwise, you can go work for a subsidiary and learn the hard way.
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Old 15th Apr 2023, 00:27
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Originally Posted by sellect
Thanks for the replies. Are the any sources of up-to-date information regarding T&C, payscales etc, the info on ppjn seems rather dated?
Qantas Airways Limited Pilots (Long Haul) Enterprise Agreement 2020

Qantas Airways Limited Pilots (Short Haul) Enterprise Agreement 2020 (EBA8)

There’s several hundred pages for you to wade through. Just remember the pay rates for SH are a little misleading, those numbers are based on 53.4 hours per BP (28 days), when in reality the average hours rostered per BP is more like 65-70, and the ability to go higher if you choose.

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Old 15th Apr 2023, 00:38
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Originally Posted by dr dre
Qantas Airways Limited Pilots (Long Haul) Enterprise Agreement 2020

Qantas Airways Limited Pilots (Short Haul) Enterprise Agreement 2020 (EBA8)

There’s several hundred pages for you to wade through. Just remember the pay rates for SH are a little misleading, those numbers are based on 53.4 hours per BP (28 days), when in reality the average hours rostered per BP is more like 65-70, and the ability to go higher if you choose.
Why would you want to work more than 50 hours in 28 days!? The idea is to work less not more!
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Old 15th Apr 2023, 01:30
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You don’t get much of a choice on how little you wish to be scheduled to work-rosters get built at the divisor for the fleet. When you are junior in the rotating seniority (737) you will work circa 18/28 days. When senior you may be able to fly just under half of the 28 days.

Something tells me however that down the road the company will find a way to coerce recent hires onto the A220 for **** pay.
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Old 15th Apr 2023, 02:09
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus
You don’t get much of a choice on how little you wish to be scheduled to work-rosters get built at the divisor for the fleet. When you are junior in the rotating seniority (737) you will work circa 18/28 days. When senior you may be able to fly just under half of the 28 days.

Something tells me however that down the road the company will find a way to coerce recent hires onto the A220 for **** pay.
Looks like a new start A220 FO will get paid $1,705 per tonne and an A320XLR FO will get paid $1,440 per tonne.

Or you could say an A320 pilot with Qantas will only be paid $20K a year more to operate an aircraft that is 30% bigger. Is the Qantas contract considered mainline or the NJS one mainline?


A220s seem to be painted with Qantas not QantasLink…



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Old 15th Apr 2023, 03:14
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy

Or you could say an A320 pilot with Qantas will only be paid $20K a year more to operate an aircraft that is 30% bigger.
Only on min guarantee. Rostered hours always 65-70 per month. It'll be $80-100k more at the end of the day.

Why would you want to work more than 50 hours in 28 days!? The idea is to work less not more!
That's only 575 flying hours in a year, I think it's expected an airline pilot will have to work more than that. With a low minimum guarantee the SH contract gives you flexibility to drop flying and take more time off.
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Old 15th Apr 2023, 03:29
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Early nineties I knew a "Senior" SO on the QF 744. Yeah, talk about all care and no responsibility. He had a grin from ear to ear every time I saw him. Wasn't interested in upgrading and had a successful car yard with his brother. Apart from volunteering to do the walkaround in the rain, staring out front in the cruise and putting charts away, he did SFA. A niggly captain once reported him for not spending enough time in the cockpit. Not hard to guess where he was and who he was trying to impress. Anyways, long time ago......guess characters like him don't slip through the cracks anymore.
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Old 15th Apr 2023, 04:31
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Early nineties I knew a "Senior" SO on the QF 744. Yeah, talk about all care and no responsibility. He had a grin from ear to ear every time I saw him. Wasn't interested in upgrading and had a successful car yard with his brother. Apart from volunteering to do the walkaround in the rain, staring out front in the cruise and putting charts away, he did SFA. A niggly captain once reported him for not spending enough time in the cockpit. Not hard to guess where he was and who he was trying to impress. Anyways, long time ago......guess characters like him don't slip through the cracks anymore.
And good luck to him the system was about allowing YOU to control your career and life not Qantas.
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