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Old 4th Mar 2023, 12:12
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Are they giving people the choice between SO/FO when they commence?
I believe due to a shortage, particularly 737 MEL, it is being offered day 1, or even earlier to suitably qualified applicants (on a handshake agreement, as you must be hired as an SO). Rumour has it, a few Virgin 737 drivers were offered class dates on the proviso they signed up for 737 day 1. They changed their mind after signing the papers, much to HRs distaste.
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Old 5th Mar 2023, 22:42
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Originally Posted by Brakerider
I believe due to a shortage, particularly 737 MEL, it is being offered day 1, or even earlier to suitably qualified applicants (on a handshake agreement, as you must be hired as an SO). Rumour has it, a few Virgin 737 drivers were offered class dates on the proviso they signed up for 737 day 1. They changed their mind after signing the papers, much to HRs distaste.
They would be giving away $. With current hours flown most 737 drivers, even on year 1 scales, would have a total yearly gross starting with a 2. New hire S/Os first year rates Airbus would be $110k plus allowances, 787 $125k.
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Old 5th Mar 2023, 23:09
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Originally Posted by dr dre
They would be giving away $. With current hours flown most 737 drivers, even on year 1 scales, would have a total yearly gross starting with a 2. New hire S/Os first year rates Airbus would be $110k plus allowances, 787 $125k.
Flown with a few of them - they’re happy to trade the $$ for the chunks of time at home.

Thankfully, not everyone is driven by the dollar.
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Old 6th Mar 2023, 00:30
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
Flown with a few of them - they’re happy to trade the $$ for the chunks of time at home.

Thankfully, not everyone is driven by the dollar.
Still no word on upcoming courses from those inside? Seems like no March or April course?
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Old 6th Mar 2023, 01:03
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Still no word on upcoming courses from those inside? Seems like no March or April course?
not sure on March or April but I know someone on the May course and apparently not as many hired as previous courses
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Old 6th Mar 2023, 02:16
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Originally Posted by dr dre
They would be giving away $. With current hours flown most 737 drivers, even on year 1 scales, would have a total yearly gross starting with a 2. New hire S/Os first year rates Airbus would be $110k plus allowances, 787 $125k.
What sort of allowances would someone expect on the 330 at the moment over the year? Average pay per fortnight?

Has the training wage changed on this new scale too?

Thanks in advance
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Old 6th Mar 2023, 05:10
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Originally Posted by On Guard
Still no word on upcoming courses from those inside? Seems like no March or April course?
some people have May dates
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Old 6th Mar 2023, 05:30
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Courses slowed for 2-3 months due to the lack of training resources, then back to 20 a month for a good while.
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Old 6th Mar 2023, 06:25
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Originally Posted by On Guard
Still no word on upcoming courses from those inside? Seems like no March or April course?
Should kick off properly in May I've been told.
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Old 6th Mar 2023, 07:37
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Originally Posted by dr dre
They would be giving away $. With current hours flown most 737 drivers, even on year 1 scales, would have a total yearly gross starting with a 2. New hire S/Os first year rates Airbus would be $110k plus allowances, 787 $125k.
How much do Jetconnect pay now days?
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Old 6th Mar 2023, 21:18
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How much do Jetconnect pay now days?
depends on how short-sighted you were
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Old 7th Mar 2023, 23:21
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Originally Posted by Fujiroll76
Correct 6 passed up a start date and already regretting that decision. Just like all the expats who have left Australia for “greener pastures”.
Absolutely laughable!! I know 1 or 2 of these guys and they are, definitely, not, regretting it - if you need to believe that qantas is the best in the world go for it, but they aren't even close to it.

Anyone know why Qantas is tanking 90% of internal applications, when they have absolute spuds on the hold, are they really the best candidates or are they so pathetically cheap they want to keep internals from progressing?
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Old 8th Mar 2023, 01:49
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Not much changes , in the 90’s 2 pilots in 10 years got into mainline from the %100 owned subsidiary I worked in, we all got interviewed, to show they were being fair . At same time 9 a month taken from oppositions operation. It’s just business .
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I assume all new hires (who are not virgin 737 FOs) are going onto the 330 in Syd/ Mel or 787 Perth is that correct? Would I be correct that the new B scale is around 120k base plus approximately 20k in allowances? is what they are getting roughly?
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Old 8th Mar 2023, 09:04
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Originally Posted by cLeArIcE
I assume all new hires (who are not virgin 737 FOs) are going onto the 330 in Syd/ Mel or 787 Perth is that correct? Would I be correct that the new B scale is around 120k base plus approximately 20k in allowances? is what they are getting roughly?
Most new SO’s will end up 330/350 or 787 in SYD / MEL / PER.

The base will be approx $125K plus allowances of around $20K - $30K depending on trips.
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Old 8th Mar 2023, 10:13
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330/350 SO Base to begin with, on MGH, is about $107k a year. Overtime depends upon trips you do. Hard to give an estimate on that figure.

If you fly more than MGH, then it’ll push it up. But don’t plan for things that are completely within the control of the airline.

Allowances can vary depending upon base and type. Example being if you’re doing a Singapore, it’s about $400/day. If you’re in Jo’Burg, it’s only about $180/day (allowances are paid as DTA from sign in to sign off). Use $20-30k as a very rough guide.
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Old 8th Mar 2023, 10:16
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Do you guys often use allowances to prop up your average salary? You have to eat while your away yeah?
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Old 8th Mar 2023, 13:23
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
Do you guys often use allowances to prop up your average salary? You have to eat while your away yeah?
You have to dig into your salary to eat at home too.

It depends. You can be a pauper, bring packet noodles and keep almost all your allowance for a slip (although it’s paid into your bank account these days).

I guess it correlates to how much lavish of a lifestyle you’re willing to live in your day to day life. Is a modest house in a middle class suburb with a generic car and public school for the kids OK for you? Or do you need the big house in the flash suburb with the Mercedes and boarding school fees too?

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Old 8th Mar 2023, 21:00
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
Do you guys often use allowances to prop up your average salary? You have to eat while your away yeah?
The overseas allowances are based on the ATO rates (page 10 & 11 here) and calculated by 'hours in port'. As a new S/O you'll roughly get between $9 and $12 per hour in port and most stays are 24 hours or more, especially on US and London trips. Suffice to say they are sufficient to afford to eat well at decent restaurants and have (quite) a few beers/wines/drinks and engage in some entertaining activity of your choice (so as not to be confined to your room). Sometimes you may have some left over depending, as Dr Dre says, just how many/much of the aforementioned vices you partake in.
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Old 8th Mar 2023, 21:55
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The system had recently changed C441. You now get the full ATO rate including incidentals from sign on at home base, to sign off at home base (with rules about when the rate changes based on which level of the scale the place you are going is on). So you are also now getting DTA while in the air. The time in Port system is gone.
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