Qantas Recruitment

[Chad Gates]

The system had recently changed C441. You now get the full ATO rate including incidentals from sign on at home base, to sign off at home base (with rules about when the rate changes based on which level of the scale the place you are going is on). So you are also now getting DTA while in the air. The time in Port system is gone.

[RENURPP]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/03/08/...ay-raises.html

a captain flying narrow-body planes would make $475,000 ($718,000AU) at the top of the scale, up $135,000. ($204,000 AU) from current pay, while the most senior captains of wide-body planes would make $590,000 per year. ($892,000 AU), a $170,000 increase ($257,000 AU) from today.

​​​​​​​My conversions.

Back in Aus it’s pay freezes and 2% a year. 🤨

[cLeArIcE]

Thanks morno and optomist. Appreciate it.
It's a bit less than I thought.

[Ollie Onion]

Originally Posted by RENURPP

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/03/08/...ay-raises.html



Back in Aus it’s pay freezes and 2% a year. 🤨

It is disheartening when Qantas is making money hand over fist and we still get the ‘we have to keep hold in costs’ and they talk about recruitment but not retention!

[LostontheLOC]

Originally Posted by Ollie Onion

It is disheartening when Qantas is making money hand over fist and we still get the ‘we have to keep hold in costs’ and they talk about recruitment but not retention!

No one to blame apart from the pilots in this case, if we accept the 2/3% pay increase and people actually think is a good deal we deserve what we get = nothing.

On the recruitment side, the emails came out for Jetstar saying "we will release candidates 2 per month starting at the end of 23 by seniority", sounds like the hold is going to last for many years.

[aussieflyboy]

Originally Posted by mig3

Those figures are for post check-to-line. During training the salary is equivalent to about $80k p/a.

What this means is that Qantas Pilots pay for their own endorsement.

[BuzzBox]

Originally Posted by mig3

It's more like $113k p/a for a 330/350 S/O before overtime, allowances and super. 787 S/O would be 129k, with less opportunity for overtime.

Gosh, an SO’s job on a 787 must be harder than the same job on an A330/350. Who would have thought? LOL

[morno]

Originally Posted by mig3

Morno's numbers are not correct for min guarantee. It's more like $113k p/a for a 330/350 S/O before overtime, allowances and super. 787 S/O would be 129k, with less opportunity for overtime.

Those figures are for post check-to-line. During training the salary is equivalent to about $80k p/a.

Pretty sure I know my hourly rate

$103 X 160 = $16,480 per bid period. $16,480 X 6.5 bid periods per year = $107,120 per year.

Tell me where I went wrong and I’ll happily be corrected.

[morno]

Originally Posted by mig3

27.5 hrs of mandatory paid training p/a is the difference. I also used the 2023 pay rates as any S/Os joining in the near future would be on that by the time they have finished training.

Fair enough, I’ll agree with that.

However for most pays of the year (assuming only MGH), the payslip reflects more of a $107k’ish amount with the odd one above it.

[RealSatoshi]

Originally Posted by morno

$103 X 160 = $16,480 per bid period. $16,480 X 6.5 bid periods per year = $107,120 per year.

...and a few days ago people were calling out Network F100 FO's for having no respect for the Profession

[morno]

Originally Posted by RealSatoshi

...and a few days ago people were calling out Network F100 FO's for having no respect for the Profession

I didn’t know that Network had S/O’s

[directsosij]

Originally Posted by RENURPP

Back in Aus it’s pay freezes and 2% a year. 🤨

How depressing.

[HEALY]

You’d struggle to rent a place in Maddington on a QF SO salary as well by the looks

[Icarus2001]

So you really think $120,000 pa would keep you out of the Maddington rental market?

https://www.realestate.com.au/rent/i...rce=refinement

You guys need to see the real world a little more.

[josephfeatherweight]

I'll just leave this here...

[Zeta_Reticuli]

Originally Posted by Icarus2001

So you really think $120,000 pa would keep you out of the Maddington rental market?

https://www.realestate.com.au/rent/i...rce=refinement

You guys need to see the real world a little more.

well lets see... did a quick calc on standard bills and food. Add in the $500 rental in Maddington, say 1 car loan for a toyota camry. $1380 a week, this includes power, regos, all insurances, food etc...divided between 52 weeks for 2 adults. So enjoy that $235 you have left over at the end of each week, and god help you if you have a hecs debt or children. All for the privilege of renting in Maddington. This country is officially a f..king joke!

[Gazza mate]

Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight

I'll just leave this here...

Wow $890k pa in Aussie dollars and the shortage has only really started within the last 12 months. I never had any ambition to fly in the Middle East or Asia but to live in the US and earn that kind of money definitely has my attention.

$720AUD for narrow body command ain’t bad either especially considering time to command at the moment is 18 months. The last few vacancies at American and United had unfilled 737/320 command slots.

[soseg]

Originally Posted by Icarus2001

So you really think $120,000 pa would keep you out of the Maddington rental market?

https://www.realestate.com.au/rent/i...rce=refinement

You guys need to see the real world a little more.

No jet pilot should live in conditions like that.

Aim higher. You're better than Maddington.

[SHVC]

Originally Posted by Gazza mate

Wow $890k pa in Aussie dollars and the shortage has only really started within the last 12 months. I never had any ambition to fly in the Middle East or Asia but to live in the US and earn that kind of money definitely has my attention.

$720AUD for narrow body command ain’t bad either especially considering time to command at the moment is 18 months. The last few vacancies at American and United had unfilled 737/320 command slots.

Yes $720k ain’t bad, however I’ll take my $250k live in a good country not be worried about being shot at whilst getting a coffee or sending my kids to school and wonder if I’ll be able to pick them up. America a crazy ass land to which there is not enough money in the world to get me there to even visit.

[davidclarke]

Originally Posted by SHVC

Yes $720k ain’t bad, however I’ll take my $250k live in a good country not be worried about being shot at whilst getting a coffee or sending my kids to school and wonder if I’ll be able to pick them up. America a crazy ass land to which there is not enough money in the world to get me there to even visit.

720k. I’ll take my chances at being shot.