Monarch -2

[HH6702]

monarch were flying on behalf of thomas cook holidays so it is thomas cook which have pulled the flights not MON.

Maybe TCX will use there own A330 next summer or buy some seats of TOM??

[fl dutchman]

Orlando with Monarch as the carrier still on sale via Thomas Cook/ My Travel booking system, on Sats, Thomson flying on Sun.
Of course it could change. Dont think the Mexico or Dom Rep were "ever" put on sale for Summer 2009 with Monarch by Thos Cook and My Travel.
Mexico still going for 2009 plus Orlando with Thomson, but no Thomson Dom Rep.

[CentreFix25]

Big delay with an A330 due through NCL today, anyone know whats up?

[londonmet]

Yes, it's delayed.

L Met

[CentreFix25]

We need to get you on Mastermind, specialist subject 'The bleeding obvious':ugh::ugh:

[londonmet]

HA good banter. The reason nobody has announced why it's delayed is due to the fact it's top secret. Not just the usual tech problems.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Both A330s are out of action, so flight is now due to operate on a A300, with a very big delay outbound and an even bigger delay inbound.

[gingerspice]

I have friends on the CUN-NCL flight today. Does any one have any ETD from NCL? I understood this flight was fully booked. Will the A300 have to op via POP on way home too?

Any reason for both the A330's out of service

Info greatly appreciated.

[Mr A Tis]

Spotty M has been having a really awful long haul summer, almost as bad as Globespam last year.
24+ hour delays have been pretty common all summer long. Is it tighter scheduling than last year & lack of cover for the unforeseen?
Mind you the TCX A330s havn't done much better this year either. Certainly will make people think twice about forking out higher fares with these carriers next year.:eek:

[mmeteesside]

I have friends on the CUN-NCL flight today. Does any one have any ETD from NCL? I understood this flight was fully booked. Will the A300 have to op via POP on way home too?

I suspect it will have to op via POP and Gander ? Or they may take out POP and just go via Gander?

As for an ETD from Newcastle, it will be at least tomorrow as the A300 is on its way from Gander to Sanford on the Cardiff flight - now assuming they don't have any more flights after Sanford (I don't think they do?) it won't be back in Cardiff until tomorrow morning. It then has to position upto NCL so I would think it would be tomorrow morning towards lunchtime before it leaves Newcastle for Gander! ie over a day late.

[GrahamK]

Then of course, they've got tomorrows NCL-SFB to contend with.

Gonna be a nasty one, hope Tommy Cook et al have enough food vouchers for the pax :ouch:

[CEJM]

Mr A Tis,

Just a bad summer for tech delays and not a lot to do with tight scheduling.

Unfortunately, you can't forseen everything in life and to have a widebody on standby for the whole summer will cost a lot of money.

Very unfortunate for our passengers, but please rest assured that everything possible will be done to get people to their destinations as soon as possible.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

The A300 that is operating the CWL-SFB will not be back until late tomorrow night, as he crew taking it out is night stopping and then they have to bring it back.
The A300 that is doing the NCL flight is a second A300, l think that the POP-CUN is not now leaving until Sunday, but l might be wrong by a day.
MON has been using a DC-10 this last week covering the A330 that has been tech, the final icing on the cake was yesterday when damage was found by the pax door on the other A330, which requires a skin repair before going back into service.
Mon hope to have one back in service Sunday, if all goes well, but as it has been said nothing is going well this summer with the A330 fleet.:{
Yes TCX had a A330 out of service for a couple of weeks as well, as l understand.
CJEM is correct, schedule no tighter than last year, just bad fortune with tech problems on the same A330 these last two months.

[BYALPHAINDIA]

Can't see the point of going Long Haul - to sit on an Aircraft for 8 hours or more with 'potential' idiot Pax.:ugh:

As much as I love flying & all that, I am happy to land after 4 hours in TFS.:D

You can be in ALC, PMI, AGP etc in over 2 hours, That's good enough for me.;)

Just can't see the appeal of Long Haul.:zzz:

Don't envy the NCL - CUN pax at all.

[RingwaySam]

I see theres 2x A300s due into Newcastle today. 1x Gatwick and 1x Manchester - Theres also a 767 arriving into Manchester from Amsterdam apparently - MAN will have 2x 767s, they are filed to fly to Catania and Verona in the morning. Wouldn't it have been easier to send the 767 to Newcastle to cut the tech stops out and keep the 1x A300 at either LGW or MAN...

[hapzim]

only problem is the 76 has 50 odd seats less than the 330 or 300. you can cover a shorter trip with 2 smaller airframes.

[im going in]

RingwaySam

Good point about the 767, what would we do with the 49 pax left behind?

[RingwaySam]

Good point :O

[OltonPete]

The ex easy/GB 321 was registered with the CAA yesterday per the CAA site G-INFO.I trust that this is a spare until one of the existing fleet leaves for pastures new?At least another frame into the fleet and might help cover tech aircraft once it is in service.Pete

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Not due in service till the 26th and not exactly a spare a/c.
I understand that changes to the flying program have been made till the end of the season.
This l am told enables ZBS to be used on a program next month flying for Ford Motors around Europe for it's new Fiesta launch.
The Mon fleet reduces by 4 a/c during the winter season as 4 B757 leave.

[EGNT]

Anyone any news to what aircraft will be operating the two delayed MON flights into NCL this morning?

[lukeylad]

An A300 operated the inbound Orlando.
Dont know whats happening with the Cancun yet.

[BYALPHAINDIA]

Spotty M, Did you say 4 x 757 to leave in winter 08??

Now that would leave ZB short....

I thought only NB & NE were leaving.

Think alot of ZB's problems have been because they are running a very tight schedule.

Must be costing them a Fortune.

Don't forget the 787's are 18 months late.

There was talk of either, Keeping the A300's or acquiring 2 other 767's??

Think ZB'S planning dept needs to 'rethink' it's Logistics after this summer.

Regards.:ok:

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Yes "BYALPHAINDIA", 4 B757s to leave fleet this winter, NC & ND to be parted out.
A300s are at this time due to be around for 6 more years.
B787s are not going to be 18 months late, MON is not expecting first one till 2013.
One difference this summer is we do not have a spare a/c, we had a B757 spare all last summer, this year it's been sold to operate in DUB.
The other difference this year is the A330 was F***** July to Aug, where last year it was June to July. So this year it happened more in our peak flying period and not so easy to cover.

[BYALPHAINDIA]

cheers, Sad to hear NC & ND now going.

2013, That's a way off.

I would think ZB will need at least another 767 for the LH routes.

The chances of acquiring other A300's are quite slim.

Are you sure they can manage - less 4 757's without acquiring replacements.

That's a big gap to fill.
Best Regards.:ok:

[Ops Guy]

Whilst on the subject of Monarch. Did they advertise the 16 day holiday to Cancun for the price of a 14 day holiday or not?? :E:E:E

[fl dutchman]

Or the 13 days for the price of 14 !!

[TSR2]

Monarch (Tim Jeans) announced some months ago that their first B787 would be 'at least' 30 months late and would be delivered in 2013 'at the earliest'.He also announced that Monarch are working closely with Boeing to find an interim solution to the problem.

Several weeks after the announcement by Monarch, an article appeared in a major aviation journal which said that Boeing was conducting a feasability study into ramping-up production of the B763 as a possible interim solution for the airlines hardest hit by their B787 production delays. However, no decision is likely to be announced before the end of the year.

[CentreFix25]

I would think ZB will need at least another 767 for the LH routes. It was mentioned that MON would not be operating long haul routes out of NCL next year, so that would lessen the strain on the LH fleet.

[TartinTon]

"Anyone know more?"

Yup. Not a chance.

[caaardiff]

I wouldn't dismiss it just yet.

[jjfluk]

What's Monarch's punctuality like this summer for European charter routes? Reason for asking - off to Corfu 1st September

[Tight Seat]

About the same as every other airline. Long haul has been knocked by tech problems, but the mini bus have been ok ( at the moment!)

[Direct VTB]

4 757's going and looking at 2 newer 75's and 2 more 321's...

[TartinTon]

If Monarch start scheduled services out of Cardiff I'll eat my trousers

[lukeylad]

Any one know if the A330's are back in service yet?

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Yes both back in service, one left LGW last night for MLE via MAN and the other was on it second flight back and on it's way out of LGW to MBA.

[captaintrigger]

The wait is nearly over for 11 celebrities who have spent the last six weeks training to be part of a brand new ITV2 reality show, CelebAir. Award-winning leisure airline Monarch has been sharing its 40 years of aviation experience with the celebs who must make the grade if they’re going to emerge victorious from their eight-week stint with the airline, which commences on Tuesday 26th August.

Training in roles such as cabin crew, check-in and ticket desk agents, they will be flying customers from London Gatwick to a host of top European destinations as they battle it out to become CelebAir’s star employee and win money for their chosen charity.

Faced with the challenges and situations that are presented to Monarch staff on a regular basis, and expected to meet the high standards set by the award winning leisure airline, the celebrities will be rated and judged by their own customers as well as the Monarch Mentors, highly-experienced members of Monarch staff who will be judging them throughout the programme and have the power to dismiss them from the programme.

CelebAir flights will operate to destinations such as Faro, Alicante, Malaga, Ibiza, Menorca, Tenerife and Cyprus. A Monarch Airbus A321 has been rebranded and will operate in CelebAir colours until the end of the series, with CelebAir customers booked on flights being served by celebrities on the ground and in the sky, as they all endeavour to deliver Monarch’s exemplary customer care whilst keeping a smile on their faces at 35,000 feet!





Commenting on the CelebAir partnership, managing director of Monarch Airlines, Tim Jeans said, “As the most experienced airline in the UK, who better to provide the support and infrastructure for the celebrities and CelebAir than Monarch? Celebrating our 40th anniversary this year, no UK carrier has a better knowledge of the airline industry than we do and we are proud to be sharing this expertise with the celebrities and taking responsibility for their training and mentoring”.

Also commenting on CelebAir, Zai Bennett, Controller of ITV2 said: "CelebAir promises to be a huge reality event this autumn on ITV2. It is an incredibly ambitious project on a scale not seen before in reality TV. This definitely isn't a show for work-shy celebrities, we're taking on a real plane, with real passengers with real holidays to go on - it promises to be an amazing trip."


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Phil Cornwell
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Lisa Scott-Lee
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Johnny Shentall

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Mica Paris

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Lisa Maffia

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[Jet22]

My question,

All MAN Scheduled flights are operated by 320/321, but what operate the charters.

I Would imagine PFO will be 320/321, Turkey 320/321, Some Greek Islands 320/321, Italy (Scilliy) 320/321, Malta and Canaries 320/321 aswell as Mainlands Spain and Portugal 320/321 and the rest 75/A300 opearted.

[MUFC_fan]

Boeing 757s, Airbus A300 and A330s also operate around Europe, Canaries and North Africa. You may see A330s sometimes at GRO or PMI where there is a lot of traffic.

The A300s are on the trunk routes such as AGP and ALC where we also see 757s on the rest.

[TSR2]

Manchester Scheduled Flights are also operated by B757 and A300 aircraft.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

The Man Scilliy on Saturday is on the B767.

[hapzim]

Good load factors with full 300 or 330 on a sch AGP or PMI :ok:

[jubilee]

I use Monarch ZB flights from Manchester on average six times per year,and have done so for a long time. My question is, do Monarch have any women pilots at Manchester, as I cannot remember ever being flown by one. Anybody in the know.
Regards,
Jubilee

[silverstreak]

I know of a female 1st officer on the B757 fleet

[BYALPHAINDIA]

Good question, I have never heard a ZB 320/1 lady pilot.

Think A300/A330 is the 'Old' boy's club.:oh:

[SEAMASTER]

Yes we do have at least one female skipper on the airbus fleet, think shes part time though and probably explains why you have never been flown by her !!!

SEAMASTER.

[flyzen]

It seems that french operator Air Mediterranee (BIE) will get a A330 or B767 from Monarch for the winter season (wet lease) to operate in caribeean aera
Does somebody can confim which one A330 or B767

[Easy Ryder]

Its the B767

[tristar500]

Talk of Monarch starting 'scheduled' services out of Scotland next year.

Anyone elaborate on this...

[SCANDIC]

Does anyone know when the 757s will be leaving the Monarch fleet, it will be the end of an era for Monarch.:sad:

[Mr @ Spotty M]

"Scandic", of the 4 to leave 3 will go next month and the 4th in Jan 09.:{

[Jet22]

I see that ZB have 3 MAN-TFS flights on 24/12,so am wondering what A/C will be operating the flights. One would assum A321 on the 0800, A300/330 on the 0930 and the A321 on the Afternoon one.

[viscount702]

According to OAG A321 on all flights

[22/04]

Any leaving do for any of the 757s - be nice to see NB go 25 and a half years after I watched her arrive at LTN

[pabely]

And the 757's will be replaced with........Oh 787 will be late, Mr Boeing sourcing replacements from.....a local airline??

[ericlday]

Was there also watching 'NB arrive. Little did we know the length of loyal Monarch service that would be in front of her. Do you still get a gold watch after 25 years ?

[silverstreak]

757 in general, is a hard aircraft to replace... :sad:

The 757 has been the workhorse for MON over the years and the Airbus will be hard-pushed to beat it (not saying the Airbus isnt a performer), but Long or Short Haul, the 757 was there!

It should also be said that its the way the 757 was operated by MON, the crews handling and also the engineering staff and backup. A big thumbs up to MON :ok:.

It has been commented by various aviation companies including BOEING that they are well-impressed with the MON 757 fleet and the fact that MON operate the highest time 757s anywhere - and they are still going strong, albeit begining to age slightly :D

[brakedwell]

Anybody got the Monarch article in the latest edition of ATW?

[DL93]

does any one know if MON are operating out of NCL summer '09 or have they thrown the towel in:~?

[iflycwl]

Has anyone else heard of the rumours that are going around Cardiff regarding ZB flights for Summer 2009.

2 different stories so far :

1) ZB A321 to be based at CWL
2) ZB A321 doing upto 5-7 "W" patterns

Anyone got any feed back on this - be great if true as CWL would be better choice over BRS as at BRS you have both EZY & FR whilst at CWL just WW

[TartinTon]

DL93...Mon have only operated out of NCL if the charterer has asked for it so there is no throwing in the towel on Monarchs side only the charterer.

As for CWL...not a chance and certainly not on a W pattern...what a nightmare for crewing!! A BRS based unit would be the most likely as more catchment and better fares with or without EZY/RYR

[G-OSND]

There must be a demand in BRS due to the the XL 738 will no longer be based there.

[boeing_eng]

The 757 is a superb aircraft with a great payload vs range capability.

There are plenty of airports where a 757 will operate with ease where a 737-800 will struggle in certain conditions.

[brakedwell]

There must be a demand in BRS due to the the XL 738 will no longer be based there.

But will the passengers still be there?

[transwede]

Monarch will operate 1 weekly flight to SFB in S09 using A330 aircraft. It is chartered by Thomas Cook - though they have pulled their Caribbean programme which used to be operated by Monarch!

There was an interesting rumour flying around a few weeks ago that a base would open in NCL for MON, but not too convinced...?

[kooyheier]

Operate that SFB from where exactly???

[BYALPHAINDIA]

MAN Summer 09.

[SCANDIC]

Will Monarch be replacing the older 75s with newer 75s:ok:

[pabely]

75s replacement, no I don't think so newer 75s - but as I've said, it's up to Mr Boeing. My moneys is on A321s.

[Easy Ryder]

The official plan is 2 newer 757's if they can be sourced and 2 or 3 new 321's.

Nothing set in stone yet.

[SCANDIC]

Hello there does anybody know whats going on with the G-MONB is should be going soon, its been parked up on remote at Manchester for a couple of days still with all the badges on and stuff, its a real shame that their leaving the fleet, their the best 757s in the world, they have all got high flying hours but low cycles:)

[Mr @ Spotty M]

"Scandic", it flew yesterday on an airtest.
It is at MAN for the next couple of weeks having end of lease work carried out on it along with "NE", both due to dept for Fedex.
"NB" has just over 85100 Hours on the clock and in the low 30s in thousands of cycles, so yes high Hours but low Cycles.
As Del boy would say, one careful owner, never raced or rallied.

[qwertyuiop]

Not sure about rallied but they have been raced flat out on the barber's pole many times.

[SCANDIC]

Thank you for that bit of info, its quite sad that their leaving the fleet they've been a great servant to monarch over the last 25 years, i'm not sure whether they'll get any younger 757s after the 4 have gone, no other 75s are as reliable as those, fed ex will be getting 2 cracking 75s. Is it right that the other 2 will be parted out or could they maybe find another airline.:)

[Mr @ Spotty M]

The other two are due to be parted out, "NC" due out of service around the 16th of this month and "ND" around 12th Jan 09.
Mon are continuously looking at other B757, but alas none have been found suitable so far for our requirements.

[Buster the Bear]

I watched it (NB) arrive at Luton on delivery from the USA 25+ years ago!

it has spent 9 years of its life airborne!

[22/04]

Does the lack of 757s mean Monarch will be short next year if none are found, or can they be covered with what's already planned.

Wh not go all 321- what do the 757s do these days the bus can't?

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Without putting back the extra fuel tanks removed from the A321, Egypt.
B757 has far better range and can operate into fields that the A321 would not be economically able too, GIB for one.

[BYALPHAINDIA]

Quote
The other two are due to be parted out, "NC" due out of service around the 16th of this month and "ND" around 12th Jan 09.
Mon are continuously looking at other B757, but alas none have been found suitable so far for our requirements.

Reply
What about the TCX 75's that will be going back??

[BYALPHAINDIA]

Quote
Wh not go all 321- what do the 757s do these days the bus can't

Reply
Fly by hands, Instead of flybywire

[londonmet]

Egypt, Banjul, Deer Lake, Canaries, JSI, etc

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Sorry MON use the A321s on the Canaries and Cyprus before you ask.

[Dash-7 lover]

Monarch are due to get the ex easy/gb A321's

[22/04]

Sorry I didn't know Monarch had removed the centre? tanks on the 321s presumably to save weight on the most frequentl operated routes. I know BDs had them at one stage.

[TartinTon]

I see Monarch won best leisure airline and also came runner-up in best loco and best Euro shorthaul airline to Easy/BA in the British Travel Awards :ok::ok::ok:

[partyboy_uk]

I heard a rumour that Monarch are planning to operate the A321 on the MAN - SSH next summer, with a nightstop downroute. Is that possible? Does anyone know if the centre tanks have been removed from the EZY A321's Monarch are getting, and if not then could these be used to operate it if not the others Monarch already has? :confused: :confused:

[longarm]

Centre tanks being dusted off as we speak I believe!

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Don't speak to soon longarm.
Latest is the B757s that are left will be doing all the SSH next season and the change is on hold for the A321s.
I am sure there will be more twists and turns before next season starts.

[Buster the Bear]

'November Charlie' looks like ending its days down in Hampshire under the cutters torch.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

"Buster" "NC" finishes flying in a couple of days time, before ferry to MAN for end of lease work.
Once that has been carried out, l guess QLA if your info is correct, it is going to parted out as they say.
"ND" goes the same way in January 2009.:{
The post that Monarch is going to get all the Easyjet A321s is a little way off the mark.

[colinhunn]

An A321 is flightplanned to NWI today (Sunday 9/11) with call-sign Monarch 321P. Assume for paimt. Anybody knw the identity?

MTIA

Colin Hunn

[jethro15]

An A321 is flightplanned to NWI today (Sunday 9/11) with call-sign Monarch 321P. Assume for paimt. Anybody know the identity?
G-OZBR

jethro
jethro's UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings (http://www.jethros.eu)

[colinhunn]

Many thanks Jethro, still in partial Spirit airlines colours?

[revo]

G-OZBR now sat at birmingham in full Monarch livery

[macnan]

Flew on 'ND' from LGW to Taba 2 weeks ago, she was definitely showing her age - not a huge loss when this bird is retired I'm afraid. She may have served Monarch well, but she has had her day.
The difference between her and 'NK 'which we had on the return flight was very noticeable, but on both legs a very good service from the Monarch crews.

[BYALPHAINDIA]

True, But I don't think any other Airline will beat MON's 75's tradition of Airtime & reliability??

[BYALPHAINDIA]

I'm surprised there's no 'official' pleasure flights planned for the enthusiasts.

MON would fill them, Over to you 'Spotty M' to pull a few strings.Lol

[Mr @ Spotty M]

The B757 will still be around in Monarch colours for a good few years yet.:ok:
For the spotters out there and any others, the first B757 to leave the Monarch fleet G-MONC is due to operate MAN to QLA on Friday if all goes well.:{

[RingwaySam]

Mr @ Spotty M,

Hasn't MONE already left? From Skyliner:

N936FD FedEx Ferried 18 Nov 2008 MAN-BGR for conversion
ex G-MONE
Is that right or not?

[Mr @ Spotty M]

News to me if it has.
Last l knew was possible hand over in about two weeks and "NB" in December, still working on end of lease conditions.
As of today G-MONE still on UK reg according to CAA data base.
Skyline have been incorrect in the past, but not very often.

[SCANDIC]

G-MONE is currentely sat on a remote stand at Manchester with the english reg taped over and now has its new reg put on,G-MONB is as far as i know in the old Ba hangar, G-MONC got towed out of the Ba hangar a couple of days ago still in full Monarch colours, does anybody know if they have any newer 757s line up as replacements. One of the Monarch a300's has gone on lease to Egypt Air for the hadj season G-MONR. :{

[Mr @ Spotty M]

SCANDIC, They are continually looking at B757s on the market and as of the last info from Tim Jeans, he states the board has not made a decision yet of if we will replace or what will replace the 4 B757s.

[SCANDIC]

Thank you for that, i really hope that they do get some more in the fleet.:ok:

[Skipness One Echo]

G-MONE is currentely sat on a remote stand at Manchester with the english reg

Is that E-MONE?

[BYALPHAINDIA]

Yeah, previously - EI MON.

[bigMANofMAN]

BYALPHAINDIA Yeah, previously - EI MON

No, EI-MON and G-MONE are completely different airframes.....
EI-MON is C/n 26151, now with Titan as G-ZAPU
G-MONE is C/n 23293

Cheers, bigMAN

[Buster the Bear]

Any idea when November Charlie is scheduled to arrive in Hampshire? Plan a while back was for tomorrow.

[Skipness One Echo]

BigManofMan read it again and think about it mate lol.
Cheers!

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Buster it was due out of MAN if my memory serves me in the morning, but it might not happen yet, still may have lease return issues.

[Buster the Bear]

It was due on Friday.

Air Salvage International - Specialised company providing professional aircraft salvage, recovery and disposal services (http://www.airsalvage.co.uk/news.asp?page_id=259&type=single)

Ta very muchly and I thought Monarch owned her? I guess not the engines?

[Mr @ Spotty M]

The a/c was sold to a company called TES a few years back and then leased from them, they must be using ASI to part it out.
It may still make QLA today but l would not put any money on it either way.:ok:

[Mr @ Spotty M]

G-MONC did make it to QLA this afternoon.:{

[adam12345]

Monarch Airlines which operates both charter and scheduled flights to holiday sun destinations in Spain, Portugal and Cyprus says that holiday bookings for Summer 2009 are up 43% compared to the same period last year.

Lets hope Monarch has a strong 2009, and if these figures are correct hopefully they will. Also does anybody have any information on how their booking for summer 2009 on the Birmingham-Murcia route is doing as both BmiBaby and Ryanair operate it now, thanks.

[OltonPete]

adam12345

I can't answer your question of how bookings are going but despite
three operators on bhx - mjv in 2009 there is a substantial cut in the
number of seats on offer compared to 2008 when their were two.

Both Baby & Monarch are showing just four flights per week compared
to ZB's daily offering in summer 2008 and baby's 5. I think baby went
to six per week in July/August 2008.

I checked the last Saturday in July and prices for all three were fairly
similar from £178 to £220 (no baggage & card fees) -not cheap.

I guess Ryanair might go daily if two extra units do arrive for summer
2009 but who knows.

Pete

[Travel Agent]

No offence but the last Saturday in July is one of the busiest weekends in the whole summer season, I think thats quite reasonable considering.

[IB4138]

Monarch LGW-AGP rotation cancelled at short notice today.

Is this becoming the norm...not enough bums on seats...pull the flight? This is not the first occurrence on ZB services in recent weeks.

So much for their "Book with confidence with Monarch Airlines" on their website.

[TartinTon]

Usual garbage from IB4138....flight was cancelled on 09Oct...hardly "short notice". Monarch don't cancel flights "at short notice" due to low loads.

Get your facts straight before you start spouting off.

[IB4138]

So how come, even the agents at AGP didn't know it was cancelled until this morning and were expecting the flight as normal?

Additionally, why was freight accepted for this flight, if it were not to be flown?

Sounds like a lack of timely communication within/by Monarch to all persons affected and not just the pax.

[TartinTon]

Is the company after which you've named yourself the handling agent?
If so that's self-explanatory...normal efficient service.

All communications sent out to all stations on 09Oct when flight was cancelled according to Monarch (and the cancellation notice)

Even the handling agent at AGP is on there.......perhaps they don't read their signals?

[IB4138]

So, the handling agent in Spain is to blaim.

OK, so why use them, if you know they are known to be so bad?

There are other handling agents at AGP and other Spanish airports.

All the customer knows is that Monarch is the carrier and has let them down.

[TartinTon]

All the customer knows is that they were informed of the cancellation on 09Oct. It's the handling agent that was waiting around for an aircraft that was never going to come!

[BYALPHAINDIA]

Some Handling Agents are not on the same 'Wave length' as the Airlines!!

[APSboy]

Hi All,
Can anyone shed anymore light on the rumour that Monarch are planning to base an aircraft at East Midlands Airport from Summer 2009????

[davidjohnson6]

APSboy - you probably know more than me about Monarch, but could you explain the economic rationale for Monarch setting up a base in East Midlands, when there's already a substantial operation at Birmingham ?

[NJTCF]

Well Ive Heard Nothing Re the Above Maybe A Charter Programme Next Summer 2009 Taking Over From the BMI A321 That Operated Summer 2008 But Thats it. There Is NO Way Monarch Are Going to Base An Aircraft At EMA In These Current Climates They Would Be Up Against 3 Low Cost Carriers. They Have A Very Good Reputation MON At BHX, Most People in the EMA Area Would Not Know Who Monarch Were and MON Are Not Low Cost, People Have Not Got The Extra £££ to Fly With the Likes of MON. They Want The Cheepest Fare. MON Are Not Going to Offer £10 Each Way 2 AGP Like RYR Are Doing At The Mo.

[tangocharlie]

Agree with NJTCF, and I don't think Monarch would knowingly go head to head with Ryanair.
Interesting that you do not consider Monarch as a low cost carrier, they market themselves as one.

[APSboy]

Thanks for the reply davidjohnson6. I can't explain the economic rationale behind this hence why I posted the original question. Many thanks for stating the obvious though its always appreciated.

[toledoashley]

Four new routes to be launched tomorrow - any news? (according to flymonarch.com)

[Bealzebub]

Are you sure you are reading this correctly? Is it 4 new routes to which their 12 days of Christmas promotional campaign applies to?

[BYALPHAINDIA]

Quote
APSboy - you probably know more than me about Monarch, but could you explain the economic rationale for Monarch setting up a base in East Midlands, when there's already a substantial operation at Birmingham ?

Reply
It might be that MON are basing a single A/C on CH at EMA for S09?

And not creating an 'Actual' operating base etc?

[pamann]

but could you explain the economic rationale for Monarch setting up a base in East Midlands, when there's already a substantial operation at Birmingham ?


The same could be said for why they had a Stansted base circa 1991-1993/4 but they did, even with Luton HQ just up the road. Where there's need for work I guess they'll base the aircraft.

[SCANDIC]

Looks like G-MONE has finally departed for its new life in the states, G-MONB still sat on remote not sure whether Monarch are having a few problems with her. Does anybody know how many 757s fed ex have got now. I'm still itching to see whether they will get anymore 757s

[pabely]

I think you will find the Monarch guys have been down to look at the ex Easy A321s again....

[Mr @ Spotty M]

They will keep looking at them until they take delivery of "IH" & "II" at the end of Feb.

[pabely]

No 75s then? sorry this was always on the cards as they put down deposits on them, no matter what the MD said.

[silverstreak]

Still NO word on summer 09 ops from EDI

Rumour has it that there wont be a summer 09 operation from EDI

[CabinCrewe]

If I understand correctly because of a slightly reduced program at an already minimal base, EDI will now be a mix of W patterns and foreign operators for S09.

[Skipness One Echo]

Just noticed that G-OZBB now has the titles in all lower case as "monarch" and the website address is now "monarch.co.uk" on the rear fuselage.
Less catchy than "flymonarch.com". Ah well.

[CentreFix25]

Anyone any idea what they were doing in JFK in November... Pic1 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-India/Boeing-777-237-LR/1460597/L/) Pic2 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Monarch-Airlines/Airbus-A300B4-605R/1443812/L/)

[monarch767]

It was a xmas shopping trip for UK paxs out of Bournemouth

[ExpectmorePayless]

Just noticed that G-OZBB now has the titles in all lower case as "monarch"

A 'new-look' modern branding. :O

Photos: BAC 111-509EW One-Eleven Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Monarch-Airlines/BAC-111-509EW-One-Eleven/0224457/M/)

[partyboy_uk]

If I understand correctly because of a slightly reduced program at an already minimal base, EDI will now be a mix of W patterns and foreign operators for S09What is your source for this info Cabin Crewe?

[CabinCrewe]

Nothing more than grapevine im afraid, hence post in the rumour forum.

[SCANDIC]

Does anyone know if G-MONB has departed for america yet. I've just picked up the latest 2009 airline registrations and it says that Monarch have got a a330 on order and also 2 757's can anybody shed any light on this. Does anyone know where G-MOND has gone to.:ok:

[SCANDIC]

Does anyone know if G-MONB has goen to the states yet. I've just picked up the 209 airline registrations and it says that Monarch have got 2 757's on order and also 1 a330 can anyone shed some light on this at all.

[Musket90]

I read somewhere that GMOND did it's last flight Manchester-Kemble on 21st Jan.

[jethro15]

Current Monarch fleet status (http://jethros.eu/fleets/fleet_listings/monarch_airlines.htm)

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Scandic, sorry you are reading a load of tosh, no A330 or B757 on order.
To answer your question, G-MONB is out of service with Mon but as yet it has not been handed over to Fed-ex.
Still parked at MAN and ND is at Kemble being broken up.
Only 3 left in fleet, JB, NJ & NK.

[chrisp2345]

I am due to fly to SSH with Monarch in March, what aircraft is it likely to be?

[TSR2]

Monarch are currently using the A300-600 aircraft to SSH from Manchester if that helps.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Give us the flight number, plus day of the week and l will check or someone might already know and post before l do.

[im going in]

Mon4206/7 = 752
Mon4278/9 = Ab6
Mon6814/5 = Ab6

[Blighty Pilot]

And for the mere mortals:

752 = B757-200
AB6 = A300 (nice!!!!!! :\ )

[tubby linton]

The Manchester based A306 has a premium cabin fit,so try and get one of those seats.There may however have been a big swap around due to the problems caused by the A332 u/s so it could be a 361Y aircraft.

[go-egnt]

Hi guys

i was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of a full copy of monarchs timetable including aircraft type (esp charters i.e MON flight numbers) from LGW for summer 09.

thanks in advance

[tubby linton]

Monarch do not produce a timetable.You can have a look at the airline website for the ZB stuff which is predominately operated by 320/1.Charters do not have a timetable.A charter is nothing more than a taxi service for a tour operator and operates to the charterer's schedule.Aircraft type can be varied at the request of the charterer due to the expected load,however you would never see a 320 do a SFB,but you may see an A332 do a SHM but never a CFU.
If you can give a specific flight number and date you may be able to narrow it down.

[CEJM]

Tubby, wouldn't be to sure about the fact that you would never see an A332 in CFU. I know that at the end of last summer season somebody had exactly that flight on his roster.

LTU operates the A332 on a regular basis into CFU

[tubby linton]

I thought the A332 was banned from CFU.I remember a while ago the CAA ops inspector wasn't happy about the A306 going there and we stopped going.As soon as he retired it suddenly became suitable again!

[CEJM]

Tubby, not sure with regards to the A306. Not my fleet so can't comment on it. The A332 was schedelued to do a CFU but due to the program going tits up on the day of the flight they rescheduled it to do a medium haul rescue.

Have to admit that we were just as surprised as you are. Never seen or heard that the A332 was scheduled to do any flights to CFU before that.

But the airport should be suitable for the A332 otherwise LTU (Air Berlin) wouldn't operate some of their flight to CFU on the A332. Oh well.

[BYALPHAINDIA]

I thought the A332 was banned from CFU.I remember a while ago the CAA ops inspector wasn't happy about the A306 going there and we stopped going.As soon as he retired it suddenly became suitable again!

'CFU the '****@hole' as in Greece!!

Can think of better destinations.

[factanonverba]

Jethro's reporting a 3rd ex-GB A321 to be joining the fleet, along with BS, that will 4 buses to replace the 4 757's that have left.

[MUFC_fan]

What will be flying the route such as Egypt? I know the A321s can make it but when the temperature is 40+ can they still? Will it be the A320 as it has longer range? But this will obviously reduce capacity...

The 787 needs to hurry up! Many carriers are struggling to cope without their 757s! A revolutionary aircraft and the 787 should hopefully surpass this - it needs to!

[BYALPHAINDIA]

I can't see all the 'Excitement' with this '787'

The 'Thing' isn't even built and already it has got a bad name to it!!

It's simple - Develop & modernise the 757 for another 15 - 20 years?

Nothing will beat the 757!!
Nothing has as yet.

'DREAMLINER' - Dream on!!

[Skipness One Echo]

This is why you shouldn't post when you get back from the pub.

People stopped buying the 757 because the A321 could do most of the mission for less. The 757 came to be seen as overpowered and overengineered, hence the orders dried up.

Fantastic aircraft that has had its day. The 787 IS the future as the ordebook will testify too, it also looks damn good.

Now repeat after me. "Aircraft aren't as good as they used to be. When I were a lad etc etc etc........"

[pamann]

go-egnt

I'm sure a crew member for Monarch would have a copy of the Summer charter flying programme which would list regular operated charter flights (as the majority are) during the summer months, assuming that is what you're after. I'm sure Monarch must produce one still for their crew (they did years back). I know my current airline who is also charter produce one to help it's crew understand what they cover when on standby. Obviously thing's can and may change throughout the season and it may be a little early still as I know we don't yet have one for this coming summer.

[factanonverba]

Summer prog not released yet!

[mudcity]

not strictly true...there is a provisional summer prog floating around, this shows a A332 going to CFU on a Monday night !! should be fun ?

[Mr @ Spotty M]

mudcity
Does it show the A321 operating flights to Egypt?:{

[SCANDIC]

Will we see any of the remaining monarch 757s at man this summer, when is G-MONB going to the states and also there is a tommy cook 757 for fed ex as well.:)

[Mr @ Spotty M]

G-MONB may well leave this week, currently undertaking an engine change, once completed hopefully it will then dept.:ok:

[Robin Pilot]

Hi all,

I've tried a search and had no luck so please don't shoot me down.

I'm getting married in Sicily in Sept, and half of my family have had letters from Monarch cancelling their flights from Gatwick. Apparently they are cancelling all flights from Gatwick during the Summer season.

Can anyone shed any light on this? The other half of the family will be flying from Manchester so is it likely they'll be cancelled too? Would love any help - not least because the bride and I will be making the long trip from Brisbane beforehand!

Thanks in advance.

[Evileyes]

Hi Robin Pilot, congrats on your upcoming nupitals.

Have you contacted Monarch and asked them? Or the agents you bought the tickets from?

Folks, PLEASE don't use PPRuNe as a substitute for customer service. The answers you receive from this anonymous website are worthless in comparison to getting factual information and/or a commitment from the company or agent you bought the tickets from.

More importantly, bad advice here can cost you money, aggravation, and a missed trip with nobody to blame except yourself.

The Mods

[squeaker]

Monarch don't do scheduled flights to Sicily, so guess it would be the charterer/tour operator you need to speak to.

[Robin Pilot]

Thanks Evileyes. Indeed, the airline were the first port of call. No further information was forthcoming, however. Only "all summer ops from Gatwick cancelled".

I realise that a large handful of salt should be taken on here - however any information would be better than the "customer service smoke screen" I have been presented with so far.

I thought, as an existing member of pprune, I would throw the question up in an attempt to find out some further info. Then I'll look at all I have and take an educated guess on whether the 30 guests I have flying from Manchester would be better off making new arrangements or risking their existing reservations.

All bookings were made directly with the airline concerned - no tour operators have been involved.

[TartinTon]

Robin, sorry mate but you can't make bookings direct with the airline to somewhere they don't fly to!

Have a look on the website and you'll see their scheduled destinations. They don't fly to Sicily and have never sold flights to Sicily as a scheduled destination.

It could have been Cosmos (the tour-operating arm of Monarch) or any number of other tour ops but it would not have been the parent company.

[airhumberside]

You can book at least some Monarch charters on their website, though Catania is only on sale from MAN

[TSR2]

All bookings were made directly with the airline concerned - no tour operators have been involved.

Before changing any existing reservations from Manchester, my advice would be to write a 'private and confidential' polite letter to the Managing Director of Monarch Mr Tim Jeans explaining your predicament and seek assurance that the Manchester service will operate as advertised.

[pabely]

I think one of the exGB exEZY A321s was handed over during the weekend did the other pass across as well Ok?

[jethro15]

I think one of the ex GB ex EZY A321s was handed over during the weekend did the other pass across as well Ok?

Yes. Both ferried Gatwick - Luton 22/23 Feb for acceptance checks, but they are not quite Monarch's yet

jethro
jethro's UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings (http://www.jethros.eu)

[red 5]

G-TTIH handed over today and G-TTII will be handed over to Mon Tomorrow.

[bmibaby.com]

Will Monarch be continuing their programme of flights to destinations such as the Gambia, Egypt and east-coast Canada now with the Airbus A320 or 321, or will these routes be "upgraded" to longhaul capacity? Not sure the 321 can do most of those missions, and the 320 I'd imagine would probably still struggle.

[TartinTon]

Still got 3 x 757s so can carry on until they've gone I suppose unless they upgrade the aircraft as you say. Depends on tour op demand.

[partyboy_uk]

Will Monarch be continuing their programme of flights to destinations such as the Gambia, Egypt and east-coast Canada now with the Airbus A320 or 321, or will these routes be "upgraded" to longhaul capacity? Not sure the 321 can do most of those missions, and the 320 I'd imagine would probably still struggle.What?? Monarch do still have 4 x A300, 2 x A330, 3 x B757 and a B767 which are all capable of doing those routes you mention.

As it happens, there is rumour that some Egypt flights may be on the A321 this summer, although the summer schedule is not yet available to confirm this.

Indeed, the airline were the first port of call. No further information was forthcoming, however. Only "all summer ops from Gatwick cancelled".Just to be clear here. If you originally made a search on the Monarch website for your flights to Sicily then you would have been redirected to the Avro (flight only and charterer's website), although admitedly you would not necessarily be entirely aware of this at the time.

Despite the Avro logo appearing in the top right-hand corner, you would have also seen the Monarch logo and Jo Public may not necessarily realise that it is Avro (one of the charterers of this flight) that you were making the booking through. However, I would expect this to appear in the T&C's, and it is them who you should contact about your flight.

I assume the "all summer ops from Gatwick cancelled" refers only to this particular route, and nothing else your post might imply. Monarch's charter flights are determined by the companies who charter them and not Monarch. In case you didn't know, it is possible to tell this is a chater flight because you would have had a flight number beginning with MON. Good luck with your booking! :ok:

[Robin Pilot]

Thanks for the help guys.

So to make sure I understand this. Despite me booking through the Monarch website (yes there was an Avro logo in the corner - but that means nothing to me), I was in the hands of a tour operator since the advertised flight I was booking was, in fact, charter. The tour operator technically "owns" the flight, and they've decided to cancel it for whatever reason. It has nothing to do with Monarch, their scheduled ops or their Gatwick ops in general. I'll get onto Avro.

Lesons learnt by my good self - thanks again guys.

TartinTon - You are correct it wasn't scheduled. They do fly to Sicily - by charter - and you can book through their website (or so it appears). And as far as I was concerned it was direct with Monarch for the reasons explained in brackets above. Or - I just made the whole thing up to waste your time. For my next post - a complaint about my cancelled EasyJet flight to Kabul.:)

[simonchowder]

Heard a rumour MON are basing two A321 aircraft at DUB this summer, any truth in the story?

[MUFC_fan]

Somebody has to fill the Futura Gael void....

[tubby linton]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was more than two,but no widebody this year.

[SCANDIC]

G-MONB departed today at 11.15am, i'm not to sure where she would be flying to. Its the end of an era for monarch, i think that the thomas cook 757 has departed for fed ex too.:{

[harer92]

Hi,
Will The Monarch 787s Come with ptvs in all classes onboard - Premium Economy + Economy. If so will they be AVOD or just looped.

[tubby linton]

At the moment we just hope they come!!

[TSR2]

What is the latest estimate?

Prior to the strike, Monarch were expecting Spring 2013.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Any Spring would be a bonus, but l don't think 2013 is going to happen.
I think you find Boeing has no idea either at the moment.

[StoneyBridge Radar]

G-MONB departed today at 11.15am, i'm not to sure where she would be flying to.

FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > Federal Express Corporation #9079 (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FDX9079)

[cloudy1]

After chatting to a senior captain yesterday, he said that after speaking with Tim Jeans it looks likely that it will be nearer spring 2015, due to further extensive delays at Boeing and workforce disruption! Their will be very heavy compensation charges paid to Mon from Boeing and with that extra cash they are looking to lease extra 330's in the meantime. The heavy compensation charges will offset some of the leasing charges (apparently)!!!

[qwertyuiop]

I believe mon will make more money out of not having them than by flying them. A strange world.

[londonmet]

qwertyuiop,

I agree 100% funny how things turn out isn't it? All good things come to those who wait.

L Met

[BYALPHAINDIA]

The 'So called' Dreamliner!! has already got a bad name, And it isn't even built yet!!

Sounds like MON will have a long wait for it's eventual appearance?

I know what (I) would say to Boeing!!Lol

[TSR2]

Well if Spring 2013 represented a 29 month delay (Monarch statement) then Spring 2015 represents a 53 month delay :}

I understand that Boeing have been offering good deals with early delivery on factory built B763 aircraft to certain airlines who are going to be hit hardest by the delay in delivery of the B787. Late orders with priority delivery of the B787 from certain influential US airline(s) will further impact delivery to many smaller airlines I believe.

[CSman]

If no widebody in Dublin this year ,What is the plan for old Lady A300 this summer?

[Mr @ Spotty M]

CSman
Plenty of flights to Greece, the many Greek Islands, Cyprus, Turkey, Canaries, Egypt and FAO, plus a few to PMI and AGP.

[kooyheier]

Does anyone know where the Monarch thread has gone to?? I've had a search for it.. but it has seemed to dissapeared??? Anyone??




Good question. When the first poster on a thread deletes his/her post the entire thread goes with it.

Assuming this was accidental we have restored the thread.

The mods.

[simonchowder]

I see monarch have taken delivery of of two new a 321 aircraft is this to replace older aircraft that they are retiring or are they expanding?, if so good luck to them nice to see someone being positive for a change. :ok:

[Jes]

Is this the same Monarch that has a thread on page 3?

[kooyheier]

Yup the one and only :-) lol... Prob be merged into the other one now though... The two 321's are painted and shall be online soon.. Taking delivery of another one soon too... which will bring our no of aircraft back up to 32...the 321's have replaced the 75's we've gotten rid off...

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Try to keep up kooyheier old boy, they have been in service for over a week.:ok:

[kooyheier]

See my memory is already letting me down.... I blame the longhaul lifestyle.. lol.. So when are we taking delivery of BV (i'm guessing)? Any idea?

[Easy Ryder]

LH lifestyle my @r$e!! Its killing ur brain cells in Bar Dread fella ;)

[kooyheier]

Oh how you know me so well...:E :E

[conti onepass]

anyone no why my flight wa delayed on sunday for 5.5 hours, zb518 barcelona, had to wait for a turin flight to arrive before we went, with 32 aircraft surely monarch must av had one spare somewhere to do the flight.

[StoneyBridge Radar]

Think one went tech downroute at Kittila the day before, incurring an overnight stop and 24hr delay on the inbound. :uhoh:

[harer92]

Hi would anyone be able to find out what aircraft (registration wise) did the Manchester to Gibraltar run - ZB574 on 3/4/09 thanks.

[Ringwayman]

Reckon it was G-OZBB.

[MUFC_fan]

Correct. MON574/575 was operated by G-OZBB (A320) and arrived back into MAN at 13.49Z.
:ok:

[smudgethecat]

Heard a rumour mon were looking at a couple of a330.s (which their engineers know rather well.)

[Easy Ryder]

:hmm: Yeah every year they're looking at 2 more 330's..........:rolleyes:

Still who knows.... its a buyers market out there.

[CEJM]

Easy Rider, as optimistic as ever. :ok: Maybe we can finally welcome you onto the fleet. :eek::sad:

[harer92]

Would it be possible for you to tell me how you found out this information.

[simonchowder]

These two A330,s dont happen to be painted blue and white at present do they?;)

[londonmet]

I think Monarch have, for the last 4 years, always been "looking" at other A330's but have never committed on them.

[simonchowder]

Im sure if the right deal is on offer they will go for them as they did the recent purchases of the ex easy jet 321,s which rumour has it they got for a steal in the end, there certainly a very canny outfit with a hell lot of cash behind them

[kooyheier]

Well I know that BMI are stopping all longhaul.... So who knows..... Wishfull thinking possibly... Prob only work if we would get fleeted though... Cos of different engines... One may hope...

[londonmet]

I don't think BMI are stopping all longhaul. All I know is that their A330's from MAN are moving down to LHR.

L Met

[simonchowder]

Different engines kooyheier ? explain further.

[kooyheier]

Positioned out to BGI the other day with BMI and spoke to one of their crew members and they mentioned to me that they were stopping all longhaul... they would only continue Medium Haul.. Also quite a few redundancies within the Cabin crew...

Simonchowder.

Well I thought they operated different engine types to us.. but they've got Trent 700's under their wings too...

[simonchowder]

Heard the same story, friend of mines a F/O with BMI, reckons at least two of the 330,s are going in the near future, he also told me monarch engineers actually maintain these aircraft for BMI at MAN ( which seems a bit odd as i know BMI have their own engineers there)

[kooyheier]

Well the renewal of two of their 330's leases with ILFC is coming up in spring 2010... Who know's what might happen...

[mudcity]

I believe this is a project to look at the 767 replacement ( its lease expires april 2010 ) with the downturn a few more suitable aircraft are coming onto the market...could be a 330 or another 767 we will see.

[Direct VTB]

Fingers crossed it will be the 330...:ok: :ok: Which is far more suitable for our ops..!!

[goldeneye]

Ive heard that the Monarch 767 that is currently in use is actually sub leased from TCX (from MYT days), is this correct ?

[harer92]

Correct. MON574/575 was operated by G-OZBB (A320) and arrived back into MAN at 13.49Z

How and where did you find this information.

Also is there a place where i can get Monarchs flight schedules.

Thanks

[BlueA330]

Yes that is true , it had the same reg G-DIMB when it was in My Travel colours .Don't know how long Monarch have it till it goes back to TCX

[sam1993]

BlueA330

I do believe that G-DIMB is due to be returned to Thomas Cook in April 2010 which would explain why Monarch are looking at suitable aircraft to replace it for Spring 2010

Regards
Sam

[BYALPHAINDIA]

I don't know if it has been asked before, But will they be a 757 based at MAN for this summer?

DUB, & LGW seem to be the regular haunts for the 3 surviving 757's.

If so, I would like to try and fly on one out of MAN.

[MUFC_fan]

MAN seems to be becoming A321 territory but MAN without MON 757s would be like Corrie without Betty's hotpot!:sad:

[partyboy_uk]

Yes, there will be a B757 based at MAN this year.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

BYALPHAINDIA
One based in MAN and the other two in LGW, with a LGW one operating a couple of days from EMA.

[sam1993]

Does anyone have a list of which aircraft MON will base where for summer 2009?
Any help would be much appreciated.

Regards
Sam

[LPFR]

DUB will have an A321 instead of a B757. They're getting rare already :(

[harer92]

where can i get hold of monarch schedules for the summer season

[simonchowder]

The monarch website might be worth a gander, flew out of man on a newish A321 last week far nicer cabin than those grotty old 757,s the quicker they all get replced by new airbuses the better imo

[Mr @ Spotty M]

DUB will have more than one A321 for the summer, they get various numbers for each day of the week as follows.
Mon x1, Tue & Wed x0, Thur x2 and Fri, Sat & Sun x3.

[londonmet]

Why no B757 or A300 in DUB this summer? Is it purely due to the low loads on the routes? Their economy is buggered after all....

L Met

[viscount702]

How many A/C will be based at MAN this summer

There would seem to be

1x 767
1x 757
2x 320
?x321

[MUFC_fan]

The monarch website might be worth a gander, flew out of man on a newish A321 last week far nicer cabin than those grotty old 757,s the quicker they all get replced by new airbuses the better imo


The cardinal sin of all engineering entusiasts. NEVER say a 757 with THOSE engines should be replaced!:ok:

Must agree, inside is nicer on Airbus model but nothing compared to the engines on those 75's - send you off that runway quicker than sh*t off a shovel! :ok:

[simonchowder]

Havent a clue about engines as long as they keep turning and burning im happy, however daft as it sounds if the cabin is well maintained i assume the important bits are as well , just out of interest are the engines on the A321 different fron the B757?, must confess they look the same to me:confused:
(forgive me im just an office bound "shiny arse "who knows jack about the techie bits)

[smudgethecat]

the 757,s are fitted with the RR RB 211,s the A321.s are fitted with IAE V2500,s (the a320,s are i think CFM 56 powered)

[MUFC_fan]

Neither do I. All I know is that those 757's carry the beasts that are RR engines - truly fantastic British engineering.

[londonmet]

As a trainer on the B757 (that has flown the B737/A320) the engines on the B757 will get you out of ANY trouble you might find your self in. They're seriously overpowered. :D

L Met

[longarm]

Well a lot of the V2500 is RR if that helps!