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Old 18th Jan 2007, 12:47
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Thanks for that. Does the arrival of these 2 additional 321s tie in with the routes already announced for summer 2007 or is there room for further route expansion once they've entered the fleet?
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 16:44
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FlyZB, you will find it's 3 more A321 to join the fleet.
OZBM & OZBN in March & OZBO in May.
You will find that even though OZBM is painted it is not with Monarch and not registered as OZBM.
It is in storage at EMA, with the aircraft leasing company that own it.
Two of the A321s replace two B757s that were used last summer flying schedule ZB flights.
All B757s are flying in charter config this summer, with one a/c as a spare to cover the Schedule and Charter fleets.
Hope this clears everything up
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 16:01
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I understood there were 5 aircraft based at Luton to cover the increased schedules from May.
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 17:12
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Not until thay can find some newer vellly cheap ones

MON don't have a great reputation for paying for quality, hence the baby bus fleet , although mayby the 787 is a change of heart, that is until they sell the production slots and buy crappy old A330-200's
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 17:19
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You can't sell the production slots, they belong to the producer not the customer. Title for the goods doesn't pass until the last cent has been paid.
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 17:49
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So EVA got some 767's after they were paid for?
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 20:54
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I think those 767's that went to eva where initially owned by Monarch and leased to eva!
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 20:58
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My point exactly, in essense MON sold the rights to EVA, through a lease arrangement. It remains to be seen if we do the same again with the 787..early airframe slots will be worth a pretty penny
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Old 22nd Jan 2007, 13:06
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a bit confused... how many aircraft do ZB operate under the Scheduled brand? i suppose all the A321s will be for scheduled ops and how many more?
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Old 22nd Jan 2007, 14:27
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321/320 fly most of the ZBs, however, 757/300s can also be found on the way to Spain.
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Old 22nd Jan 2007, 16:10
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For this Summer all A320 & A321 will be used for ZB flights, as they have reduced seating for the ZB flights.
However A300, A330 will be operating some ZB flights during the summer and l hear the B767 may be also.
The B757 may fill in for the odd ZB flight, but they are back to charter config this summer and one a/c is a back-up a/c for the summer.
The A320 & A321 may also fly the odd charter rotation as well, especially at night.
Hope this is of help.
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Old 22nd Jan 2007, 18:00
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As per last summer - all BHX charter flight will be operated by A321

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Old 22nd Jan 2007, 20:16
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Bhx - Alc

Flying with them lots this summer since the demise of last years regular (FlyBe) I must say that on that route last summer on the occasional ZB trip I was impressed with the turnout of the A/C in comparison with the BE flights I used.

Will it be the same aircraft this summer down to ALC ? I now no longer fly anywhere much to ALC since my family moved down there so I am not seeing much variety on the aircraft.
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Old 5th Feb 2007, 20:41
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General Praise .. . .

. . . . . where its due.

(I am not a Monarch employee BTW)

This Fri out / Sunday return flight to ALC was one of the best I have had.

They (MON) are a cut above the other LCC I use to ALC.

The aircraft (A320) was exceptionally well turned out (I paid the extra 15 for 3C) and the extra legroom was nice but the other seats looked to have a better pitch than others carriers and were in good really good condition. The leather seats were much better than recently experienced on other carriers and the CC seemed very experienced, organised, coureous and well . . . . just nice !!

Free papers, free used of clean new headphones and IFE make all the difference. (even hot hand / face towels for all pax)

5 minute early departure, 10 minute early land and the pilot did one of those "are we down yet" landings - probably scrubbed the tyres as a result though

To be honest I couldn't tell the difference cost wise with the other BHX and CVT LCC's but it was really impressive.

Praise where it is due
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Old 5th Feb 2007, 21:19
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Angry

Shame they treat their crews with contempt, a pay frezze followed by a 25 M & S voucher and a crap luggage tag as a christmas bonus,that can be found on ebay in vast numbers.
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Old 5th Feb 2007, 22:37
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General Praise ....

Must say I echo CVTDog's praise.

I travel ZB two to three times each year to Faro and every flight is the same. Excellent punctuality, clean and comfortable aircraft, friendly and efficient CC and good selection of surprisingly good food.
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Old 5th Feb 2007, 23:10
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CVTDog & TSR2...

You will find a lot of people who use ZB echoing your praise, myself included. For an LCC, whos prices match those of LS, WW, U2 etc, their overall service and passenger experience is superior to any of their rivals which is why people choose to fly with them on a regular basis. Ask for the opinions of passengers using Monarch charter (MON) as part of a package tour though and you'll find that the feedback won't be so good, particularly for long haul. I've said it a few times before and I'll say it again, is it time for Monarch to ditch their charter operations in favour of an all scheduled (LCC) service?
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Old 6th Feb 2007, 14:44
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monarch are the best to fly with

Monarch are the best airline to fly with out of bhx i would say. The ZB service is outstanding as is the MON flights. Would not fly with anyone else has to be monarch for me all the time. The cabin crew are friendly and look after you well, my mother is nervous flyer and the cabin crew are always on hand to put her mind at rest, The aircraft are always clean and the seats are really comfy aswell for airline seats the meals are great also.

The flights always leave on time or early i wonder if that has something to do with good relantionship they have with there ground handlers who I believe are called "swissport"?.

Keep up the good work monarch you tick all the right boxes for me.
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Old 7th Feb 2007, 15:50
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Why would Monarch ditch the charter work? Utter madness, once the contract is signed with the charterer it is money in the bank. The schedule market is far harder to make money in.

As far as charter airlines go they are much like any other.
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Old 11th Feb 2007, 21:32
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What is planned for MAN this Summer,

The usual 2 757's 2 x A300 5 + A320/1 1 P/time A330?

I didn't see the A330 much last Summer at MAN.

Regards.
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