Kenya Airways AB Initio Pilot Recruitment

[victor_benosa]

Hi guys! I did my psychometric on thurs morning but i heard the white lady saying we'd get results on mon .Who else heard that?

[Magnate]

Yeah. We will go through

[futurekenyanpilot]

please tell thsese guys, there are 20 year old first officers who went through the ab initio program, who drive a subaru, get deducted 133k, the place they can afford living is nyayo estate, some miss flights coz they were buying girls alcohol in westlands, third week of the month, they borrow money for fuel to go to work. i know two friends like that. this makes me wanna just beat them up, 100k net for a pilots lifestyle is peanuts. i passed kcse from nairobi school in 2004, was desperate to become a pilot so much that i wanted to sell my kidney at 19 coz my parents were a primary school teacher n mum a village church pastor earning net 15ooo a month and we were 7 kids total. i decided to go to the USA To hustle, i did all odd jobs, even wiping peoples asses, to raise money to study for a bachelors degree in aviation there. in 2009, one of the presidential candidates visited my mums church while campaining and my mum told him about me, he hooked me up with the ab initio thing, but i refused to abandon hustling two odd jobs and giving up my degree to go for the ab initio. i have no regrets, though it took me 9 years of my life to earn my degree and cpl ir, the salary would enable me take a loan to buy a cessna 172 take it to wilson in 5 years i wouldnt even need to fly kq . i can buy my parents a house, educate my siblings, and i wouldnt do that with the ab initio salary ...

[bonibones]

so what are we supposed to do?
Ditch this thing and persue other fields?what if we dont have other alternative ways to land us back to aviation like you did!
#Patcherian#

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

nimekaza yangu yote hoping that i will be invited for the psychomotor est, God pliz help. am so anxious to go to SA, not because of coming back to earn a lot of money but because i have always had the passion to be a pilot. it doesnt matter how much they will be paying me, as long as its a reasonable amount i will be comfortable with it. having the cockpit as your office i think is the sexiest thing, i dont mind earning 100k as my salary as long as am flying, but one thing am sure with is that KQ has annual salary increament for pilots, so by the time i finish repaying my loan which is after 8 years, i will be earning close to 600k!!!!! how about that?

[Captain Ben]

Guys don't lose your focus.Get your facts right!First of all 100k is not an ab initio trainees salary it at least 3 fold that figure.133k is what is deducted monthly to service the loan.If you wanna be on Forbes then this is the wrong profession! not because it doesn't pay but your not doing it out of passion.UA405 isn't against the program as a whole,he only feels it's not financially viable on the part of the trainee because it becomes a huge inconvenience during ones fo years as he/she has to part with large sums of money to service the loan.Furthermore,the type rating bond(737 or embraer)puts you in a more precarious position.The fact that a couple of disgruntled elements can't keep their finances in check (who also clearly can't handle the huge responsibility of airline service)shouldn't deter anyone from pursuing their dreams.

[Magnate]

Thumbs up:D:ok::ok:

[futurekenyanpilot]

nairobi is a very expensive town. do the maths
net salary 100000
minus car note, 30000
fuel 20000
rent 20000 to 30000 (nyayo estate cheapest) as a pilot u cant live in a one bedroom, your small siblings need to come and sleep over sometimes
nairobi girls minus 10000
food, water, misc bills 20000
net salary 000000000000

[futurekenyanpilot]

when you come back negotiate with coop bank, get a personal loan from any bank to pay off coop banks debt. say your training cost 5 million plus 2 million embraer or 737 simulator , get a personal loan of 7 million and pay off this debt. they might charge u an early termination fee of like 2 percent. a loan of 7 million u will be deducted about 150000 for 60 months only. with kenya airways paying u say 300000 a month, u will comfortable pay that in 60 months. instead of paying 133000 times 96 months which is 13million plus 2 million for the rating bonding 15 million. in those eight years the extra 15 minus 7 million u paid kq u can buy a 172 take it to wilson to instruct students.

[Magnate]

:Dnow that's the kind of information we need as we progress through these stages. Thanks for the advice.

[Mericmeister]

Hello guys! A big 'THANK YOU' to all of you who are sharing facts on the forum, especially regarding the 'inside story' of the Ab Initio programme. Keep the advice coming.

[darkroomsource]

By the way,
any time a bank wants to charge you for paying off a loan before it's due, tell them that you will just stop making payments and they can 'foreclose' on the loan.
Whenever a loan is 'called' or 'foreclosed' they can be paid off with no penalties.

So, if they tell you that you have to pay a fee to close it out early, just tell them they can go through all the cost and expense of filing court papers, and you will just pay it off without the fee, or they can waive the fee this one time and you will just pay it off without the fee.

[apep]

Hey,anyone knows where I can get the microsoft flight sim need your help asap.

ION guys they are responding,got a call at around 11.

[Captain One]

Hey apep!congrats for moving forward to psychomotor.did they also send email or did they just call?

[don_quixote]

@apep, when did they say the pilapt is?

[Luckykim]

Has anybody who did psychometric on Thursday afternoon been contacted?@Apep when did you do your psychometric? and when are you going for the psycho motor?:confused:

[don_quixote]

@Luckykim, I did mine on Thursday afternoon and they just sent an email inviting us for the pilapt tomorrow at 3:00.

[kelvin macharia]

has anyone been contacted by KQ to go for psychomotor:ugh:

[kelvin macharia]

waiting desperatelty luckykim

[Magnate]

Psycho-motor guys are being called in groups of 10 so be patient-tutaitwa

[bonibones]

cant relax.am ever refreshing my mailbox.kwani did they change their plan to call us today or the lady did not have adequate information about the exercise

[Magnate]

Anybody who has a rough idea of what the PILAPT test entails please share it.

[Bmn]

Congrats on passing the psychometric.Its just a general skill test, how fast you react and basic co-ordination.All the best, hope to see you guyz here soon.

[wannabe aviator]

PM me your email address and I'll send you information with images of what to expect. All the best to all those going for the pilapt. keep calm when handling the joystick. :ok:

[Geokumu]

hernandes please how can i contact you privately because i also need it desperately since tomorrow am going for the psychomotor but am absolutely blank about it!please help.

[bonibones]

have you been invited for the psychomotor?
@wannabe aviator,i also need it
[email protected]

[wannabe aviator]

Give me about 30 minutes and you will have it in your mail.

[bonibones]

congrats for making it!does it mean some of us have been technicaly knocked out.was it a call or an email.i remember you!

[wannabe aviator]

Check your mail for those who requested for information about the psychomotor. hope it helps you sail through :ok:

[Geokumu]

thanx fellows for takin me this far

[Evroza]

I'm guessing you've got the doc showing you what to expect. There is the one with boxes of different colors that keep shifting. Take note that they will all be dissappearing randomly so just keep your cool. I'm guessing you've realized by now that the key here is keeping calm: all steps are simple they just need you to relax because you could easily ace them any day. There is the last one of flying a model plane through a train of shifting boxes. Just stay calm. In all the first 4 tests you'll be given test rounds but not in this one. So just be cool. Remember flying is your passion so just handle that joystick like a pro: if you ask me its exactly like playing a video game. You'll make it: praying for you!:ok:

[wannabe aviator]

thanks for the compliment. I'm humbled. Am always here to help if anybody needs any info. all you have to do is ask. All the best. One more thing make sure you learn from your mistake. This is all about psychomotor learning. make sure you get constantly improving scores like 1-2-4 or 1-1-2 .....

[Delt]

Guys Congrats for reaching this far, you've almost made it. All i can advice is this be calm when you handle that joystick on the trax test. If you get a 1 no worries, try harder the next round and I'm sure you'll get a higher score. All the best!:ok:

[ultimate8]

@evroza,@wannabee aviator,@delt
thanks guys for your most valuable assistance. May God's blessing cover us as we take the psychomotor today.:ok:

[victor_benosa]

Am I the only one not being invited for psychomotic test? I need to know because I'm not giving up just yet. Are there some pilapt scheduled for a later day like tomorrow?

[MissyMauryn]

victor, i kno someone scheduled for monday so relax

[victor_benosa]

It is better to be informed on the date even if it is two weeks away rather than being in the dark this long. This waiting is too much! What about you... I've you gone for the interview.

[bonibones]

am here too.desparately waiting.one cannot be sure if he/she passed psychometric.
@MissMauryn,thank you for reviving our hopes

[don_quixote]

For those doing the pilapt, this might help:
MAS / Air Asia / SIA cadet pilot selection process : Aspiring Pilots - Page 3 (http://flylah.com/aspiring-pilots/topic503-20.html)

[victor_benosa]

Lets keep hoping then!

[Rollyboy]

I'm in the group that goes in on Monday. Had already given up but got mail yesterday evening for the Pilapt on 10th. If you guys have not been contacted maybe you can call Career Connections? It's definitely better than being in the dark.

[Magnate]

Anybody from the psycho today?
How did it go?
How many were you?
When were you told the results could be out?

[Geokumu]

magnate result will be out early next week.hmm...it was hmm...

[Magnate]

hmmm..well..i think I know what that means.

[wannabe aviator]

Did the information I gave help??

[Geokumu]

helped greately. am very thankfull my dear friend

[bonibones]

:ugh::ugh::ugh:i have run the race and fought the fight.
got the regret letter.
yes am out guys but that cannot extinguish the passion in me for the skies
maybe we will meet in the near future in the skies as team for presidential escort in The Kenya Air force.
my next destination now is Laikipia air base and 50 air cavalry battalion,Embakasi.
for those in the race,wish you all succes,will pray for you guys.let no one put that flame out.

[wannabe aviator]

Your welcome. Anytime you need help I'm available. All the best. Have faith and you'll make it. :ok:

[Karlto]

Hi good people. Meant to ask, once one gets to SA, are you given allowance(s)?

[Geokumu]

sorry man but never give in! i peaty that tone bt it is said"hope for the best but prepare for the worst" am from msa but i came just to try my lack and when i was not called for the psychometric on tuesday,after the aptitude i went back home with a smile that at least av tried only to be called on wednesday and i had therefore to come back to nairobi.so i still have hopes you might be contacted and if you are not,then stand up,whipe the dust and procceed.THAT IS THE PRINCIPLE OF COMPETITION.what about those of us who might be eliminated at the summarising steps to S.A?.so take it easy man.ok?

[kelvin macharia]

"THAT IS THE PRINCIPLE OF COMPETITION"
ofcourse its-i hate reality :ugh::i was kicked out i guess psychometric test out shined me-i love skies but i should stay on the ground it is not yet tym to fly-back to civil & structural Engineering-i missed the dreamliner & embraer cockpit by step.for those disappointed like me this s life we call them ups n down:*:*

[victor_benosa]

Why cant these guys terminate my application on their site because as I see, I have given up and though I also believe God works in mysterious ways and I want to move on! How can I reach Career Connections?

[Rollyboy]

@Benosa, you can reach them on the Zain no. they were using to call us for Psychometric. @Magnate did you do your Psycho-motor jana or you are also on Monday?

[wannabe aviator]

Why say it was terrible yet you seem to have some pretty good scores. You just might go through keep hoping :ok:

[Magnate]

Am on Monday, 7.30 am group

[kelvin macharia]

Rollboy-apart from the monday group-wil there be another group next week 2 go for psycho

[captain danger]

after 94 pages....well done to all of you.:D

lets give it a break now...and talk Africa...

our good/bad times....:cool:

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

For those who have not gone for the psychomotor, i wish you all the best. The test is not so hard, you just have to be relaxed, tense free and ensure that you really concentrate. It will take roughly 1 hr. As you do the test, concentrate on your work, dont look at your neighbors work coz u might end up losing concentration. All the best

[Geokumu]

Whoever has got the information,how many of us went for the aptitude and how many reached the psychomotor stage?

[Rollyboy]

I hear there's only 2 groups on Monday? If so then, thats around 50 guys for the Psychomotor. If they need 25 guys then everyones chances are 50-50!! We started out as 130 guys I think.

[don_quixote]

@Rollyboy, I thought each group had 8 participants. On Wednesday we had 5 groups and the guard said we were 40. How many groups went on Thursday and Friday?

[Rollyboy]

There were no groups for Thursday and Friday to the best of my knowledge.

[Magnate]

they only need 25?

[farmwe]

I did the interviews in March but didn't continue to medicals.I remember having an increasing score in psychomotor,honestly I don't know how they choose the people because I was hoping I would qualify.
are there any girls this time round?

[Rollyboy]

@Farmwe Yeah there's a couple of girls. I counted at least 5 at my Psychometric session. What were your scores?

[Geokumu]

Rollyboy sorry to say this but am not sure if this is a perfect place to discuss score and you simply understand the reason why.So how many of us went for the psychomotor

[don_quixote]

Letters for the medicals are in. Thursday it is.

[Wikasina]

@don_quixote when did you do your pilapt and at what time?

[Wikasina]

@don_quixote what time did you do your pilapt test?
ION #TeamTensedUp anyone?

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

don quixote, you say that guyz have been invited for the medicals? when did u receive your mails or phone call?

[don_quixote]

Yep. I received the mail last night around 10.

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

i tried my best through all the other stages, but finally i get eliminated, this was my last chance as am right now 23 years, so my dreams of being a pilot have been thwarted. for those who qualified for the medicals, i wish you the best. its not the end of the road for me, i feel so bitter, but i just have to accept the fact that i failed the pyschomotor. i feel so bitter that i failed the last critical stage but i wont blame myself, i still have a life to live.

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

all the best in the medicals, i think i neva made it after the psychomotor. success

[don_quixote]

How do you know you failed? Your status on the portal is marked as terminated?

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

i dont remember the login details i used on my portal, but so far there is one guy that told me he has also been invited for the interview

[don_quixote]

For the portal, you can use the 'forgot my password' facility to get a new password. When did you do the pilapt?

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

i went for the pilapt on wednesday, what about you?

[don_quixote]

Ditto. I'd suggest you try logging in first or call them. It wouldn't be the first time that they've delayed responses. Don't write yourself off too soon.
Cheers

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

my application still reads active, once a person fails his portal is terminated?

[don_quixote]

From previous posts, yes it does. So try and be patient. You're not out yet.

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

thanks for the consolation though something tells me am out, i did so poorly with the joystick, the first one 3,4,3 then the second one 2,3,3 so me i just lost hope. U also went for the test on Wednesday?

[don_quixote]

Yes I did. The 3:00 PM group

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

and were your scores as poor as mine?

[don_quixote]

The first one I had 1-3-6, then in the shapes and colors one I had 10 hits 3 misses on the first attempt then 11 hits 0 misses in the second one. The flying through boxes I had 1-2-2.

[Wikasina]

Anyone here from the pilapt ya 1:30PM Wednesday?

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

all the best brother, even though my account still reads active, i think if you have not been contacted so far, then it means the end of the road, not unless a miracle happens. success

[Evroza]

Just chill. Till your account reads terminated you are still in. I remember waiting to be called for the medicals when others had already gone. We waited for over a week. Infact I remember by the time I was starting to get worried like you are guys had already done their Medicals. Pray and just chill

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

Thanks for your consolation, at least am a bit relieved . Thanks for demonstrating that patience is key, my fingers crossed and praying hard. Thanks, so evroza are u already in s.a?

[Evroza]

Not really. I failed the medicals

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

What serious medical condition were you suffering from? This anxiety is killing me, but all i know is that the probability of getting invited for the medicals is so slim

[apep]

So they @Don they contacted you on a saturday,who else got an invite already?

[apep]

Plus thought they said they would contact everyone this week seeing that there are groups doing theirs today..:hmm:

[don_quixote]

Yep. I was quite surprised myself.

[Evroza]

hepatitis b

[Wikasina]

Just got my application terminated:(....All the Best to those proceeding :)

[Wikasina]

I think if you're really 24 already most probably that's why you weren't alerted cause of the age bracket or you didn't meet the minimum requirements!

[Wikasina]

hi...when you fail to pass the interview do they write "Terminated" or "To terminate"? or its basically one and the same thing?

[Evroza]

Nyongesan, thanks but you might want to use proper English on this forum. @Wika* I think it's one and the same thing. If it starts with the letter 'T' it really won't change to 'Active'; sorry. Mine was never terminated, I'm thinking they believe I'll still be going back...if only I could! In other news, I'm currently designing an ultralight. Hopefully it will be the first from Kenya to Actually fly!:rolleyes: And in case you are wondering, I won't be putting some 600lbs engine upfront!:ok:

[Wikasina]

Cool thanks alot.... Awesome stuff how big/small will it be?

[urewawpilot]

who knows wether or not KNEC sent confirmation of results as lack of it may hinder one to get response from KQ

[nyongesan]

@wikasina, you mean once you are 24 years, then that's it?

[nyongesan]

I meant to ask, what tests do they do?

[Wikasina]

@urewawpilot if you told knec to send via post it may take a long while...when did you do so?...
@nyongesan Kinda cause they have an age bracket of 18-24...

[Magnate]

We did the Psycho today. The joystick was damn too sensitive. Hoping for the best.
The guy told us that they will forward the results to KQ tomorrow, so our group should anticipate the emails around the end of the week.

For those who have already proceeded to the medicals, congrats.-please do share what happens there. Maybe one time we can collect all this information on this page, structure it and put it in one document for the sake of those who may wish to pursue this process like we've done. One is more confident when they have a rough idea of what to expect.

As for me, the psycho shook me up-but am still hopeful and trusting for the best

[Wikasina]

if you check this thread you'll find the medical procedure all explained and written about...all the best as you wait for your results

[don_quixote]

How many were you for the pilapt? A full group of 8?

[Magnate]

we were 7, one gal didnt make on time. There was to be a 2nd grp which i saw on the list, with around 3 names indicated beside them 'moved'

[Rollyboy]

Funny thing is Im doing my psychomotor on Friday. Think Im one of those guys moved to Friday? Wasn't able to do it jana.. who else?

[Benzino]

When did you go to KNEC?I'm headed there to confirm if they've been sent.
I was also told the same.

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

i really dont know what happened with the pschomotor, how i could i fail it yet i had sailed through the hardest stages? am so frustrated, and damn it i wont ever dream of flying with KQ again. i know i might have failed but i just cant stop cursing.

[Benzino]

How do you know you've failed?

[Karlto]

The worst thing about today's medical was the hunger till late afternoon, so brace yourselves those going there soon.
Otherwise, just take it eazze'

[urewawpilot]

went there jana they had not sent them just go their ask them if it is ready pay for courrier n hope it gets on tym

[don_quixote]

@karlto, did they finish all tests or more were scheduled on a later date? Plus, how long did it take?

[Geokumu]

hey pprunners.do you mean you cant be contacted if your exam confirmation receipts are not yet sent by knec,to go for the medicals?

[Gwabbz]

during medicals, is a drug test carried out?

[Benzino]

@urewawpilot...I was told by Thursday morning they'll have been sent if at all you paid for courier services.
@Geokumu...yes you won't be contacted till they get the confirmation.

[Magnate]

Just got the invite for medicals to be held on Friday. Anybody to update me on what takes place?
I was in the Monday Psycho group

[kibz2005]

"...is a drug test carried out?"
-Gwabbs

hahahahaha! just the words you want to hear from a prospective airline pilot. Keep up the good work and I'm sure you'll go far Gwabbs. :ok:

[Movitch]

Hi there,so how long does the whole interview process take for one to be given the loan and head to SA?

[wannabe aviator]

@kibz like the post got me laughing.
@gwabbz yes a drug test is conducted. they take 4 blood samples, urine and stool so if anybody has been smoking weed or other drugs you got to pray for a miracle.

[wannabe aviator]

Congratulations to all those going for medicals.

[kelvin macharia]

hi p pruners-i did psychometric test on 29th nov,2012 at pride centre-since that day av nt heard from KQ again-my application still active-can some one please tell me what is happening am i out already or will they call me for psycho motor:ugh:

[Rollyboy]

Anyone else who for whatever reason had their psychomotor rescheduled to next week?

[darkroomsource]

during medicals, is a drug test carried out?
If you're worried about this, you're in the wrong profession.

[Captain Ben]

very true...

[kelvin macharia]

At last at peace now i so this on my account just today "terminate application" now i know it wasn't mine this time it hurts:O but is the reality -all the best for those who passed

[Gwabbz]

people, relax am not asking because am a drug addict! You know Nairobi and all the drugs that we inhale passively!

[darkroomsource]

Yea, that's the ticket. You're just thinking about all the drugs floating around in the air that you will 'absorb' on the drive to the physical. Yea, that's it, that's what you're worried about. Sure, we believe you.

[ultimate8]

hahaha.
you really seemed healthy to me.just shave that beard and stop being funny. you should be worried about tommorrow's hunger:ok:

[Gwabbz]

ahem, okay okay, i'll shave and am eating enough food tonight! by the way your coming tomorrow?
and as for 'the bad air around' i have taken enough water, am sure its out of my system by now

[darkroomsource]

it can take days or even weeks for some bad air to exit the blood stream

[Benzino]

Who know where International House is?

[kibz2005]

Water only works for clearing 'bad air' on a urine test. With a blood test you'd best hope for a miracle. Call me crazy, but I find it much easier to just keep myself healthy and in no doubt of passing my yearly medical. but then again it's just me, what do I know? :E

[Gwabbz]

But THC is detectable in the blood
for a short time, usually a few
hours, because it is rapidly
metabolized into molecules known
as metabolites. At least 80 different
metabolites are formed from THC.
These metabolites are stored in
body fat and are gradually
eliminated from the body through
feces and urine.
ps: i took that stuff a long time ago! i dont use. I hope one slip up wont mess my dream!

[Evroza]

@Gwabbs incase you get nabbed with some 'bad air' traces, the worst that might happen is you get told to wait for 3 months then test again: and this time you better stay clean or you are out! However, on the forms you'll fill asking about your history, don't tell half truths: you could end up in a bigger hole. Just fill in you took it once....
edit: okay that sounded better in my head:}

[Gwabbz]

thanks man, tommorrow! hmpf!

[Geokumu]

When did you do the aptitude?did you reach the psychomotor?hmmm...guys help please!!!.am madly worried because i have not been called for the medicals and i dont know if the result confirmation from knec have reached kq and and being a mombasa inhabitant,i cant access knec head office from here.to make it worse,i was on the first lot of psychomotor and my application still active.whose first aid kit has my medicine?very confused

[Magnate]

Relax. Ni kama KNEC haijasubmit information kwa KQ. Furthermore, there are some guys doing the Psycho today so most probably you will be in the same group for the medicals.
But you can still ask if there is someone who has been invited for the Medicals without the certificate/result confirmation.

[Geokumu]

Do you mean they terminated your application? Mine still reads active but am yet to know my fate.

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

yeah, my account portal reads terminate application. i think when you hit the end of the road with them, they terminate the account

[benjaavpilot]

hi, is the ab initio only for kenyans or the internationals also? :)

[Rollyboy]

You need to be a Kenyan Citizen.

[weksir]

Bravo to all of you guys for making this far.
Now onto other matters, you will get seriously bored once you get to this place be it 43 or Progress. So you guys need to sort yourselves out in terms of entertainment n stuff. We will appreciate movies, series and games alot. Infact we will appreciate anyone who will come with a 1TB dedicated external hard disk full of the same. I know all of those who did the medicals are in but it will be in order to still wish you all the best of luck. For those who didn't make it, no regrets. Life goes on. Cheers.

[don_quixote]

It would be unfortunate if someone starts accumulating 1 TB of multimedia then get's disqualified in the remaining two stages :-(
If I make it past the orals then feel free to PM me your requests and I'll be sure to bring them with me.

[weksir]

I'm pretty sure at this stage no one is going to be eliminated unless they do have a serious medical complication. In any case the psychomotor test tells them who they want working for them, the medical tests are just part of every pilot's life. So ny virtue of doing those tests you are pretty much in and you can count them as your initiation into the profession. About movies and stuff I will pm you when you r 100% sure you are coming to 43. All the best bro.

[Magnate]

they are asking for confirmation of documentation...i got to get a passport now. Somebody told me that at Eldoret or Kisumu you can get the passport in two days, or even within a day. Can somebody confirm this?

[darkroomsource]

do you really think you can get a passport in Kenya in 2 days?
kitu kidogo won't be enough mate.
It took 3 months for our son.

[don_quixote]

I doubt if that's true. I applied at Nyayo house and they said 3 weeks. I don't think it would take a shorter period at their regional offices. But you could try and let us know for posterity's sake

[Magnate]

lemme try next week and tell you how it goes.

[captain danger]

To be very honest...i didnt want to reply to yre post.

However, you need to catch a wake-up.

You will never cut it in my B777-LR and definately

not in my Arrow. Why dont you go home and give

the men/woman who have the aptitude a chance.

Your want of play stuff instead of studying yre books
speaks volumes here.

Stay far away....very far away from me...

And no im not with KQ...Just a concerned ATPL who
has to eventually mentor nutters like you out the pool.

You make very dissparaging remarks about 43 air school.

Well enjoy yre stay while you can bleed the system. We nor Africa will miss you in our skies

[Evroza]

@Darkroomsource, actually you can. Get in touch with a travel agent for those of you who are willing to part with some sum, I got mine in about 5hrs when I was applying. Parted with 7k though. If you are in Nakuru and need the help, I would be happy to point you to the guy. Congrats by the way for all who made it!

[Karlto]

On the contrary, I got my 32-page p/p on day 2(after app.) at Nyayo hse for 4500/- just last week.

I think the 3 weeks may be due to the upcoming festivities although I have some doubt.

[don_quixote]

How did you know when it was ready? Did you use the tracking facility on their website or they called you?

[Karlto]

The immigration officer told me to come for it then. I got it the next day after applying for it.

[ultimate8]

A bit cruel......:hmm:

[wannabe aviator]

Has anybody been called up for the oral interview?

[M Kivyatu]

happy new year,aspiring pilots and pilots.
Congratulations to all those who made it thus far.
all the best
As for the whole passport thing,it takes about three weeks to be ready.If you have someone on the inside it should take say 2days.:ok:

[wannabe aviator]

Did the group being interviewed leave for S.A???
This thread has been very silent

[don_quixote]

Nah. Bado. We're still waiting for the orals

[Magnate]

for the passport, Kisumu takes 3-4 days or 1 day if you 'know' somebody.
Got an email requesting for scanned copies of the ID, passport and KCSE certificate...the orals may be in the course of next week (i hope so)

[don_quixote]

When did you get the email?

[Magnate]

i received the email at 3.30 pm

[Capt Mel]

Hey, anyone with an idea on when the next intake will be please let me know...
Thanks in Advance :O

[Geokumu]

Hi comrades..at last have been called for the medicals today to be done on 14/1/12 after i lost hope...who else is keeping me.company?

[Magnate]

hii inapatikana wapi?

Geokumu, thats great

[Captain curren-c]

@magnate you get it from city hall in town, it takes about 30 mins at most.

[Magnate]

thanks a lot Captain

[Geokumu]

hmmm...funny procedures...

[ombabz]

Geokumu..how many guys/ladies came for the medicals today or was it just you alone.All the best.

[Geokumu]

we were four(4) all guys

[BOLT KIPCHUMBA]

@Geokumu, you got the invitation through mails or through phone calls?

[Gwabbz]

Who went for the medicals and like me, hasn't yet received the email requesting scanned copies of documents??? :(

[don_quixote]

We're in the same boat.

[captain yasmin]

:Ohey guys just joined this
are there usually many girls who try out for the ab initio ??ohh and i did my kcse last year so am crossing all my fingers i pass for this

[captain yasmin]

by the way i dont get my id till september but i have my passport will that be a problem??

[Gwabbz]

;) hey! As you probably figure, not many girls want to be pilots, but a couple apply, you wont be the first!! We began with quite a number of girls this time but its sad that in a group of 28, there no girls who made it to the medicals!! oh! yeah, passport will do!! All the best, and pray for someone like me to get in, I'll totally mentor you!! ;)

[don_quixote]

Did you confirm to the first email that you have all your documents in order?

[Karlto]

I also received the email asking for the document scans. Hoping these guys call us soon coz my end of semester exams have to be avoided at all costs, lol!

@yasmin_on the contrary, there was a lady in my group of medical tests, so I think tht gender aint much an issue. All the best

[Gwabbz]

yes, I did, but i had an issue with one of the tests, :ugh:probably that's why they haven't communicated with me!! I failed the ishihara, but am still hopeful! Whatever happens, at least I tried and got this far! :D

[Captain curren-c]

@gwabbz did they call you to inform you about that particular test? were you asked to have it redone?

[Gwabbz]

its a pretty straight forward test, you look at some plates with colours then your supposed to identify some numbers in the plates, if you cant see the numbers, your colour blind! I was shocked when the AME said that! I was like, "kwani what am seeing is black and white??" The AME told me that chances of me going to SA are slim! I was forewarned so am forearmed!

[captain yasmin]

hahaha wow how comes??how hard are those tests anyways?
mentor you say?lol
umm guys i have to wear specs or contacts sometimes is that much of an issue??

[captain yasmin]

hey gwabbz i have seen such a test on one of the aptitude phsychometer tests they are actually confusing i must admit

[Geokumu]

received in form of email.gwabbs meaning you were 28 in the medicals?

[Gwabbz]

The specific group i went with was a group of 7 GUYS, but the lady doing the ECG told me she was given 28 names, am not sure whether your group is included in that number! Has KQ communicated with you about your documents?
Capt Yasmin,,, Relax, right now you should be praying that you pass your exams and if your short, you better look for 'Height-gainers' if they exist! :}

[ombabz]

Its been nine days since kq lastly communicated when they requested us to scan our documents.Does anyone have the slightest idea whats cooking at kq?..Or any reliable HR contact?

[Magnate]

the lady said that she hadnt been in office till Friday, and that they were organising for them. Lets wait for them next week. Sb told me that departure date ni early Feb but this long wait is not good at all at all

[Geokumu]

Hey! People are very quite in this forum. Magnate did you receive a mail for document verification like Certificate of Good Conduct, Passport and Yellow fever Certi as we await Medical results? KQ should not make waiting long lest they employ mentally-disturbed pilots..lol

[Captain curren-c]

kq have been really silent since they asked for documentation. let us just hope they will communicate soon.

[FLYDHC8]

Guys, I know most of you are relatively new in the aviation industry but one thing you guys need to have when it comes to recruitment in the industry or the industry at large is lots of patience and tolerance.

[MisterToo]

As we await the medical results, let me remind you that a CV will required for the orals. It isn't a must that it be complicated, have a simple one that has a summary of your details, education, work experience, interests and referees plus details (contacts) of your next of kin. All the best

[Avianca 052]

hey guys,just curious here...how many times does kq conduct the recruitment in a year...?and when?

[MisterToo]

Intakes are normally two per financial year. The current group in the interviews is the second in in the 2012/2013 financial year. Just make your application as in the website carees.kenya-airways.com as advised in the earlier posts in this forum and if you meet the basic requirements, you'l be in for the interviews!

[flaps17]

Heard from a reliable source that KQ is shortlisting,well , this just goes to assert all that the aptitude test is imminent.

[kush-d]

@flaps are u sure or you are just speculating.

[flaps17]

Kenya Airways representatives came to our University yesterday(1/2/2013) to attend our annual career fair and I happened to ask one of the men present about the next recruitment exercise since he was not sure he opted to call one,Captain Opere,who confirmed that they are shortlisting (i was there when he made the call )

[Magnate]

I think the shortlisting he talked about may be referring to the current process going on, or the Direct entry one. The Ab Initio position is not available right now on their website.

On another note, anybody with inside contacts at the KQ HR who can tell us what is going on?

[Avianca 052]

thanks man for the update....when is the next recruitment expected to be since ab initio is nt currently on the open positons...

[Aircaptain]

hey!
Just have to thank all the guys posting in this thread.I think this will be a platform for me to achieve my biggest dream.
I have tried to apply at the KQ website but I simply cant see the Ab Initio thing.Any additional help?

[Magnate]

Just be on the look out. I am sure that after the current group being interviewed departs they will advertise again. Just register on their websites and then check regularly

[Aircaptain]

Thanks for the advice. So when are you guys leaving(that is if you have not left already)?

[Zeus Kanathi]

Hallo comrades,I'm on of the guys who went for the Ab Initio medical interview and I also received the e-mail request by KQ to scan our documents and send them. However, it's been over a month now since that and I'm just wondering,has anyone been contacted yet on anything or does anyone have any kind of information vis-a-vis that??

[Tuxx]

For people who hadn't gotten communication on scanning their documents and sending them to KQ via email kindly check your emails.:cool:

[ombabz]

Tuxx,are you among the four guys who were called to do the medicals in early jan or were you in the initial group who did their medicals in dec?..when did you get the mail?

[Tuxx]

I was among the initial group, had something to follow up at Mater and come back to the AME so I've just been waiting and today they have communicated and asked for the scanned documents.:ok:

[don_quixote]

Emails for the orals are in guys. Finally. 14th Feb. Pride Center. Check your mails

[Captain curren-c]

Check your mails people, the invites for oral interviews are in. The date is 14th.

[Magnate]

Atleast wameitana after a long wait.

[MisterToo]

Congratulations guys for coming this far. Thank your God for the guidance and patience. Lets purpose to meet then and start saying bye to your aquintances as you are a step closer to leaving..

[Zeus Kanathi]

Glory to God we made it this far. I'm just wondering why they didn't ask for a CV

[Magnate]

I wonder too. But may be it is included in the 'professional certificates' category...just saying...

[Zeus Kanathi]

hehe,could be but i don't think so for the simple reason that a CV is not a professional certificate. I also don't see why they would need a CV because it's clear that most of their recruits are fresh-from-High-School breeds and mayb one or two people who have a degree or diploma. I think a CV would be more relevant for the direct entry lot

[Magnate]

yeah...maybe..but it wouldn't hurt to have one

[kibz2005]

I'll give you some advice for free, whenever you go for a job interview carry at least 5 copies of your CV. That should be enough for each member on the panel. It gives the interview panel the impression that you actually thought about what would happen in the interview and that you planned ahead. It also gives people the chance to browse through your history, and learn more about you when one of their colleagues is asking you a question.

It doesn't matter if you are straight out of high school. You must have volunteered in some organisation or participated in some kind of extra-curricular activity at one point in your life. You always learn new things and grow from these experiences so don't be afraid to mention them. They could go a long way in helping people understand what kind of a person you are...

all the best people.

[Geokumu]

kibbz you r a good thinker....i appreciate that"free" advice and i think you have settle this matter all together...

[Zeus Kanathi]

Well said Kibbz, thanks for that piece of wisdom

[MisterToo]

A cv will be required and you could be asked to send throug mail prior to the interview. Refer to my previous post

[MisterToo]

This how the cv was requested last year. ''As you prepare to come for your
interview tomorrow please us
your updated CV clearly
indicating details of your
parents /Guardian/ next of kin -
Ie, full names, phone contacts
and Full address -(BOX NUMBER )
and your readiness to apply for
the loan, today before 5pm.
These will be used for the
interviews tomorrow.''. You will need to prepare one..

[Magnate]

Thanks a lot for that info. Maybe you guys we should meet and 'choma' some nyama one of these good days just to get to know each other before going down south

[Magnate]

You were right about the CV

[Zeus Kanathi]

MisterToo, they have sent us exactly the same email they sent you, now the big question is, how do you indicate your readiness to pay the loan?
Magnate your on point man

[Magnate]

yeah, how do we indicate that? Do we write like a sentence and sort of swear like 'I............hereby indicate my willingness to...
:O:O

[Geokumu]

Am still waiting for the expression of this in our Vitae...

[Zeus Kanathi]

MisterToo, where are you?
We need your advice, before tomorrow noon
So that come thursday, we don't get doomed
And end up, in unsurpassable gloom.:}

[Magnate]

hahaha...poem...nice one

[Magnate]

Heeey.....nani aliambiwa the 'tentative departure date' like they had indicated in the email.

[Zeus Kanathi]

Nobody was told anythin,,they said we will receive their communication tomorrow

[don_quixote]

They said they'll communicate next week. Who has any info on that AIFA school? The info on their website is quite scant.

[Zeus Kanathi]

For posterity's sake, we went for the oral interviews today,we were 26 of us with one lady on board. I personally thought it would take 10-15mins from what I had gathered here but to my surprise they had added what they called Theumatic Apperception Test/Vienna Test. Don't be scared by the name it isn't that bad. We also got interviewed by two friendly Mzungus from a new aviation school called AIFA in S.A which is in partnership with China. After that we sat for the oral interview infront of a panel of six and it was just the way it has always been - filling a form while they ask you questions. Finally they told us to wait for their communication tomorrow

[305_pilot]

Flaps17 is right. A few of us have been emailed for the aptitude test.
#nerves start rushing through!

[Magnate]

Thanks for that Information. Maybe AIFA wants to/already has a contract with KQ for Pilot Training. Those successful may be split and go for training in different schools rather than, for example, 43 only.

From their Facebook page, AIFA seems to be a new school and they have new planes. They have been training Chinese cadets and they want to expand their training portfolio.

On another note: what was the purpose of those tests? They caught us off guard.

[kibz2005]

Careful Magnate, the rules of this forum are that you must speak in English only. You might find yourself blocked if you carry on..

[Zeus Kanathi]

From what i perceive, the first one (the pictures) just tested your perception about situations, your interpretation of them and your ability to express both. For the computer ones, the first one (aeroplane with three axes) tested your mechanical reasoning and the second one tested your memory

[Zeus Kanathi]

Is it AFIA or AIFA??
And what's the name of their facebook page??

[Magnate]

AIFA

https://www.facebook.com/AIFASA

[Zeus Kanathi]

Okay thanks boss

[ponkir]

Has anyone been called in for Aptitude test for direct entry? I heard that they are now starting to calling folks. Just checking.

[kasa]

just retake ab initio assesment test.

[305_pilot]

Yes, they've just sent out emails for next week!

[aviatrix_]

Who else has been called for the Aptitude next week, and when did you apply?

[Zeus Kanathi]

I thank God that KQ have honoured their promise to communicate by today. They have said they will communicate next week since they have not yet received the interview results so let's practice patience

[Jay36]

Hallo future pilots,
For those who have been invited for the aptitude test, please post all the dates here. Mine is on 22nd February. And all the best to those awaiting results for the orals interview.

[irashid]

Hi Everyone,

Just got the email a couple hours ago. Have been following this forum for over a year now and am glad I can finally be appart of it lol.

Scheduled for the 22nd at 730am dunno how my mind is gonna be working at that time for an aptitude test but looking forward to it and to meeting everyone whose going to be there.

I have read the earlier posts but does anyone have a book or tests that would prepare us as I have not taken an aptitude test before.

Thanks,

[Magnate]

For those going for the interviews-direct entry, we wish you all the best. I wonder if you will be taking the same tests like we did in the earlier stages.

For the rest, we hope KQ will communicate early in the week to avoid undue anxiety.

All the best to everyone. May God be with us.

[Tuxx]

for those who've received an email for the aptitude test, kindly confirm whether its direct entry or ab initio, thanks.

[nyongesan]

Hi guys? I have been invited for the aptitude test on 22nd February, but I happened to lose my original Identity card last week, could I use a coloured photocopy of it together with waiting card plus a police abstract?

[Magnate]

Yes you can.

[ponkir]

Hey I also got an invite for aptitude for this Feb. Am just wondering how many people they are looking at taking! So if you have been invited, please chip in in the discussion

[wannabe aviator]

hey, is the aptitude on Friday for direct entry only or some Ab Initio guys have been called up? I haven't got anything yet