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Flap40
11th Mar 2010, 17:10
Thanks. Another easy one.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/jodel_bucket/110310.jpg

con-pilot
11th Mar 2010, 17:19
Not guessing on the airport. However, does the blue Islander in the background have four bladed propellers on the engines?

I've never seen one with four blades.

10DowningSt
11th Mar 2010, 17:30
Nor have I, but if it's not a 4-blade prop they've got one hell of a balance problem.....


Try Ndola?

Bigt
11th Mar 2010, 17:32
Island of Sylt?

Ridge Runner
11th Mar 2010, 17:46
Well the red one is DLT so def German!

10DowningSt
11th Mar 2010, 17:49
Errr...can I withdraw Ndola, and substitute Flugplatz Juist as my offering?

Flap40
11th Mar 2010, 17:55
Not Ndola, Sylt or Juist.

10DowningSt
11th Mar 2010, 18:05
Nordenay..............?

Flap40
11th Mar 2010, 18:45
Not Nordenay (or any of the Fresians).

Mr_Grubby
11th Mar 2010, 19:12
Dune airfield, Heligoland.

Flap40
11th Mar 2010, 19:20
Correct. Over to you.

Mr_Grubby
11th Mar 2010, 20:35
Well, another easy one,

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/airport56.jpg

descol
12th Mar 2010, 13:02
Real estate with runway - must be USA - any clues Mr G ?

SeenTheLight
12th Mar 2010, 13:12
Same layout as Bad Sollingen, so I guess somewhere in Germany?

WE992
12th Mar 2010, 14:29
There are a lot of airfields in france that have circular dispersals.

Mr_Grubby
12th Mar 2010, 14:32
Des.

No, not USA but certainly northern hemisphere.

Sorry, just Seen the Light post,
Yes, Germany.

C.

chevvron
12th Mar 2010, 14:50
Damn I was just going to suggest Holland - saw something similar after takeoff from Wildenrath heading west once.
As an aside - no picture as it's not an entry - I've just discovered an airfield in England which has a railway line running across it.

sycamore
12th Mar 2010, 21:28
I thought it was Lahr at first ,but it`s Bremgarten......Open House if agree....

Mr_Grubby
13th Mar 2010, 06:12
Correct !

Bremgarten it is.

As sycamore says, open house.

Clint.

leader3
13th Mar 2010, 13:01
as it looks like open house
here is one from me.
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii186/leader03/3-1-1.jpg

sycamore
13th Mar 2010, 19:10
France or Spain ?

leader3
13th Mar 2010, 20:10
not france or spain
it is in the western hemishphere.

chevvron
14th Mar 2010, 14:12
Portimao Portugal?

leader3
14th Mar 2010, 17:30
not portugal either

further west.

teusje
14th Mar 2010, 19:11
Further west than Portugal would make it the U.S, right?

leader3
15th Mar 2010, 08:53
further west and
it could be anywhere on the american continent

but your right it is the US.

Mr_Grubby
15th Mar 2010, 11:05
Sonoma Airport, CA ?

leader3
15th Mar 2010, 17:15
Not sonoma airport Mr G.

right part of the US.

leader3
16th Mar 2010, 13:43
i think a clue may be needed!!!

the airfield in question is on the sectional chart for the los angeles area,
but its not in the LA area.
you will not find it in the southwest US AFD,

well i could not and i know where it is!!!!!

Trolltuner
16th Mar 2010, 20:07
Looks like Pauma Valley Air Park (CL33) in Southern California, not far from the Palomar Observatory.

Cheers,

Tom

leader3
16th Mar 2010, 20:41
looks would be right then Tom

yes its Pauma valley

over to you Tom.

Trolltuner
17th Mar 2010, 16:17
leader3 and flight: Sorry guys, scanner on the fritz.

Open House ! (I'll be back :))

Cheers,

Tom

India Four Two
17th Mar 2010, 16:41
Sorry to hear about the scanner, Tom.

Here's a nice but unusual formation over what should be an easy challenge aerodrome:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WAF_Feb14.jpg

When researching this one, I read that the Freighter is faster than the C47. If true, a triumph of brute force over form drag!

I42

Tempsford
17th Mar 2010, 17:56
Grostenquin?

Mr_Grubby
17th Mar 2010, 18:11
Phalsbourg Air Base.

C.

India Four Two
18th Mar 2010, 00:15
Just over an hour. I knew it would be easy.

Grostenquin in NE France, home to 109 Communications Flight RCAF which had C-47s and Freighters.

Tempsford has control.

Tempsford
18th Mar 2010, 13:46
Sorry folks. Open House.I was lucky enough to be at Grostenquin for three years. Great times.

leader3
18th Mar 2010, 14:40
open house again.
then here is another one from me....
and a nice large picture to help..


http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii186/leader03/aairfield.jpg

con-pilot
18th Mar 2010, 18:47
I'm going to say that this airfield is not in the US. No yellow school buses. I've never seen an airshow that size in the US without some yellow school buses sitting around somewhere.


I could be wrong, have been before, believe it or not. :p

leader3
18th Mar 2010, 20:00
your not wrong this time con-pilot

its not in the US.

Chris Scott
18th Mar 2010, 21:01
Blighty. Hedgerows, lack of sun, cramped car park. Don't like the hedge near the runway - crosswind hazard?

zetec2
18th Mar 2010, 22:22
Oaksey Park. PH.

leader3
18th Mar 2010, 22:39
not oaksey park zetec2.

the hedgerows and car park really do define it as good old blighty.

but where!!!!

Old Bald Pilot
18th Mar 2010, 22:46
Woodchurch, Kent ?

leader3
19th Mar 2010, 08:51
you are correct OBP

wood church in kent

photo taken during their show day.
another one of the good air shows that has surcome to bureacracy

over to you OBP.

Old Bald Pilot
19th Mar 2010, 12:23
Thanks leader 3 and apologies for the transatlantic delay.

Here's the next from 1979.

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww34/ericshipley/PRUNE-3.jpg

OBP

merlinxx
19th Mar 2010, 12:50
First thought was Ngong race course NBO, but not enough trees on the hill:confused:

descol
19th Mar 2010, 13:28
Kenya - a national park ? perhaps Mt. Kenya ?

Chris Scott
19th Mar 2010, 13:55
Looks rather dry for Mt Kenya? Never been there, but it occurs to me it might be Arusha, Tanzania.

Old Bald Pilot
19th Mar 2010, 17:05
It is certainly Kenya and one of the Game Parks but not Mt Kenya.
Things were pretty dry in '79. The last documentary I saw on the area was showing it quite lush.

OBP

descol
19th Mar 2010, 17:30
how about Amboseli ?

Mr_Grubby
19th Mar 2010, 17:47
Seronera Airstrip, Serengeti.
or
Voi, Tsavo.

C.

Old Bald Pilot
19th Mar 2010, 18:00
Descol and Mr_G

Not Amboseli or any of Mr_G's choices, though oddly enough the pax on the Seneca had a morning game drive at Kilaguni in Tsavo West and an afternoon drive at Amboseli before the nightstop at ????????????????
The flight started out in Mombasa.

OBP

Agaricus bisporus
19th Mar 2010, 19:14
Taita Hills? Tsavo W

Old Bald Pilot
19th Mar 2010, 20:02
Agaricus bisporus,

Sorry you went the wrong way. You need to go back the other way for 2.5 hrs (at Seneca II speeds)

OBP

Mr_Grubby
19th Mar 2010, 20:21
Hurri Hills Airstrip ?

C.

JW411
19th Mar 2010, 21:03
"Can anyone help, where is this airfield?"

At the risk of thread drift; there is another thread running of the above title below. Can any of you experts out there help solve the problem?

Old Bald Pilot
19th Mar 2010, 21:05
C.
I 'm not even sure where Hurn Hills is.
This one is one of quite a few along the Mara River.
It has a Swaheli name meaning Elephant's Head.

OBP

Mr_Grubby
19th Mar 2010, 21:46
OBP.

The Hurri Hills of northern Kenya.
Traditionally, the Hurri Hills were used by nomadic Gabra pastoralists and their herds who only visited the area at certain times of the year.

C.

Russell Gulch
19th Mar 2010, 23:32
The only place that I can recall from 1981 is Serena Lodge, although it is on the Mara, it doesn't translate to anyone's head.

Minor point or order: Game parks along the Mara (In Kenya) didn't exist in 1979; it was a "Game Reserve".

But one day for a flight Mombasa-Kilaguni-Amboseli and then to the Mara river is a lot of missing everything, even at low level.

However, shauri yako!

Old Bald Pilot
20th Mar 2010, 00:47
Thank you Russell.
Your comments prompted me to check my logbook. I don't know what made me think it was 1979 it would have been 1981 0r 1982.
You are obviously referring to Mara Serena Lodge so getting quite close.
As a matter of fact my first flight into the Masai Mara I landed at Mara Serena but I was supposed to be going to Governors Camp. The only info I had was that the runway was east/west and was on the Mara River. Both camps fit that description. When nobody came to meet us I get airbourne again and circled the lodge to get some attention. shortly after landing again the driver who came out advised that Governors was 7 miles away over there. No doubt the pax (all German) have told that story a few times. Another error I made was that the schedule called for a game drive at Amboseli on day 1 and a stop at Kilaguni on day 2 on the way back to Mombasa. Morning flights were generally made at 8000' but afternoon flights were generally (very naughty) at 13k or above so long as none of the pax were going blue. This offered some relief from the temperature but did nothing to reduce the turbulence.

Due to the fact that I will be away from the internet for a couple of days and not wishing to keep you guys waiting I trust it is in order to declare

Open House

The answer by the way was Kichwa Tembo in the Masai Mara

OBP

Warmtoast
20th Mar 2010, 10:22
As it's Open House next challenge.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Where7.jpg

Tacklebury
21st Mar 2010, 18:51
Well Warmtoast,

This challenge has not exactly got off to a warm start has it ? The Toast seems to have gone cold. Can I start to warm it up with a suggestion that it might be east coast USA, New England ??

Tack.

Warmtoast
21st Mar 2010, 20:10
Not USA. It's in Europe.

one11
21st Mar 2010, 22:09
Welshpool ?

Warmtoast
22nd Mar 2010, 00:21
Not Welshpool

Try Mainland Europe

Mr_Grubby
22nd Mar 2010, 10:22
Hausen Airfield, LSZN ( Hausen am albis) Switzerland.

C.

Warmtoast
22nd Mar 2010, 12:46
HAUSEN AM ALBIS (Switzerland) LSZN it is

Mr Grubby has control

Mr_Grubby
22nd Mar 2010, 14:03
Thanks Warmtoast.

Try this one.

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/airport57.jpg

John Hill
23rd Mar 2010, 01:00
Hmmm, northern hemisphere, cars drive on the right, lots of undeveloped land in the area, I cant see a single clay tiled roof. My guess is Canada.

descol
23rd Mar 2010, 08:59
Could be NSW - Australia

Airclues
23rd Mar 2010, 09:13
Can't be NSW, the shadows point in the wrong direction. As John says, must be northern hemisphere.

Dave

chevvron
23rd Mar 2010, 09:26
Those long sheds on the apron plus the single digit reciprocal runway designator shout USA.

Mr_Grubby
23rd Mar 2010, 09:43
OK Then,

Northern Hemisphere but not Canada.

C.

Davidsoffice
24th Mar 2010, 10:15
Trying to keep the game in progress.... somewhere in Virginia, USA?

descol
24th Mar 2010, 11:16
Mr G - could it be Japan ?

Mr_Grubby
24th Mar 2010, 11:24
No Gents.

Not Japan or Virginia but yes, USA.

C.

India Four Two
24th Mar 2010, 13:32
New England?

Mr_Grubby
24th Mar 2010, 14:33
India Four Two.

Much further south.

C.

handsfree
24th Mar 2010, 14:50
Terrain looks like West Virginia but I can't find an airfield to match

Mr_Grubby
24th Mar 2010, 15:07
Not West Virginia but getting closer !!

C.

chevvron
24th Mar 2010, 15:55
South Carolina?

Mr_Grubby
24th Mar 2010, 16:23
chevvron.

T, no but you are the closest yet !!

C.

SMOKEON
24th Mar 2010, 17:35
Is someone whistling "Dixie" here?
The South will rise again.

leader3
24th Mar 2010, 19:01
Brunswick county airport
North carolina.

Mr_Grubby
24th Mar 2010, 19:26
leader 3.

No.

Clue. There are two towns in the USA that share this name.

C.

handsfree
25th Mar 2010, 10:37
Not confident about this at all but how about Albert J Ellis, Jacksonville

handsfree
25th Mar 2010, 10:41
Albertville Regional Airport, Alabama. AKA Thomas J. Brumlik Field

Mr_Grubby
25th Mar 2010, 14:29
handsfree.

Correct ! Well done.

Apart from it being destroyed by a Cyclone in 1908, nothing of great import has happened here. They did hold a spoof Winter Olympics when Albertville in France was host to the real Winter Olympics in 1992.

The other Albertville in the USA is in Minnesota.

Over to you.

Clint.:ok:

seacue
25th Mar 2010, 17:15
And the third Albertville is in Chippewa County, Wisconsin. It's hardly even a wide place in the road, but a railway goes past there and it was probably more important before road transport came of age. Google Earth claims that the Albertville Tavern is at the place, so it must be real. It's about 70 miles east of KMSP.

handsfree
25th Mar 2010, 20:48
Sorry for the delay. Been out and about celebrating a 60th birthday
OPEN HOUSE.

norwich
25th Mar 2010, 21:21
As handsfree has declared 'open house' here is one of my very easy, but not in Mels supurb listing, yet, postings ! be quick as I keed to sleep very soon !

Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/DSC_0044.jpg

Tempsford
26th Mar 2010, 05:41
East Kirby?

chevvron
26th Mar 2010, 12:08
Norman Cross or North Witham?

norwich
26th Mar 2010, 16:18
Sorry for delays ! Well thats two no's so far ?

Keith.

norwich
26th Mar 2010, 19:45
JENKINS. Yes it's North Creake, can you explain RAF somewhere else etc ?
You have control !

Keith.

flyingwing
26th Mar 2010, 22:25
An easy one.

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq346/buzzbird/mkt-1-1.jpg?t=1269642131

zetec2
27th Mar 2010, 18:40
Remains of RAF Syerston ?, PH.

SeenTheLight
27th Mar 2010, 21:20
Hemswell ?

Open house if correct

flyingwing
27th Mar 2010, 21:36
SeenTheLight has it right. Congratulations. Hemswell - scene of a remarkable piece of wartime colour film of depicting Lancaster operations and one of the 'sets' for 'The Dambusters'. Open house it is.

dash7fan
28th Mar 2010, 18:16
As it is open house

http://www11.file-upload.net/thumb/28.03.10/6wywyzzjvfqa.jpg

handsfree
29th Mar 2010, 07:38
Given dash7fan's location and the typically Austrian field patterns, I'll start off with a bid for Aspern Vienna.

dash7fan
29th Mar 2010, 08:51
Sorry, it´s not Aspern. This airfield closed 1955.

Airclues
29th Mar 2010, 08:59
Tulln Air Base, Austria?

Dave

handsfree
29th Mar 2010, 10:02
There's a disused airfield just to the south of Strasshof an der Nordbahn, Austria which looks as though it may fit the bill. Unsure of what it's called though may be Deutsch-Wagram.

dash7fan
29th Mar 2010, 11:03
Handsfree is correct. Both names Strasshof or Deutsch Wagram were used.

Over to you!

handsfree
29th Mar 2010, 11:05
Open House.

handsfree
29th Mar 2010, 14:04
Obviously nobody heard me.

OPEN HOUSE !

Really must make the effort to read how to post pics :confused:

handsfree
29th Mar 2010, 14:27
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz216/poodlejumpy/whichairfield.jpg


Finally made the effort.

Mr_Grubby
29th Mar 2010, 14:44
handsfree.

Interesting. Europe. Holland ??

C.

handsfree
29th Mar 2010, 14:52
Europe but not Holland Mr G.

handsfree
29th Mar 2010, 20:16
A bit silent on the suggestion front.
This airfield came into being initially as a glider field (if I remember correctly) but is now used for freefall parachuting, gliders, light aircraft and anything else below 5.7t
It's best to drive on the right and the time is UCT+2.

Airclues
29th Mar 2010, 22:11
The trees look like German trees.

Dave

India Four Two
30th Mar 2010, 05:29
The trees look like German trees.


Those German trees are a long way from home if the clock is set to UTC+2 ;)

One of the Baltic states?

handsfree
30th Mar 2010, 05:56
They may well have been germanic trees at one time.

Here's a little visual clue from the beginnings of the gliding club. Picture taken about 2 miles from the present airfield.
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz216/poodlejumpy/launch.jpg

Sultan Ismail
30th Mar 2010, 06:07
Now if only that had been a pig, but then this thread would have flown to Jet Blast very quickly.

handsfree
30th Mar 2010, 06:46
India Four Two. No, not a Baltic state but there are historical links with Balkan states..

Airclues
30th Mar 2010, 08:55
India Four Two

I believe that Germany is UTC +2?

Looking for the current time in Frankfurt, Germany? (http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/germany/frankfurt/time.htm)

handsfree

Could it be Poland? (at one stage part of the Imperial German Empire).

Dave

handsfree
30th Mar 2010, 09:38
Could be Poland but it isn't. Link with Germany is from a later date than the Imperial times. Link with the Balkan states comes from this country's own Imperial past.
The cow, by the way, wasn't used to launch the glider that was done from the top of the hill using bungee and manpower.
The line NNW/SSE through the woods is a train line. North lies the capital.

handsfree
30th Mar 2010, 10:03
Sorry everyone. One's brain scrambled Baltic with Balkan states. The imperial link is with the Balkan states. :O

Davidsoffice
30th Mar 2010, 11:16
My first thoughts were towards Hungary, perhaps Budakeszi though having looked on google maps that has a grass runway. Perhaps the tarmac is new?

handsfree
30th Mar 2010, 11:20
Davidsoffice. Close, very close. Other half of the double headed eagle.

Mr_Grubby
30th Mar 2010, 13:11
Flugplatz Fürstenfeld,Austria.

C.

handsfree
30th Mar 2010, 13:22
Excellent Mr Grubby. Well done but do you know the name of the 'towing' cow ?
You have control.

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz216/poodlejumpy/logf_aktuell.jpg

Mr_Grubby
30th Mar 2010, 13:50
No idea about the cow. Looks like a Daisey or maybe Buttercup. !!


http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/airport61.jpg

handsfree
30th Mar 2010, 15:05
First roll of the dice....... Asia ? Rural Nepal ?

Mr_Grubby
30th Mar 2010, 16:26
Asia yes, but not Nepal.

sycamore
30th Mar 2010, 16:36
Malaysia possibly ?

Mr_Grubby
30th Mar 2010, 17:17
Not Malaysia.

John Hill
31st Mar 2010, 02:16
Airport serving Thimpu, Bhutan. I think the airport is actually at Paro.

Mr_Grubby
31st Mar 2010, 10:25
John.

Not Bhutan, you have gone a little too far west.

C.

descol
31st Mar 2010, 11:31
I think we might be in Indonesia with this one ?

Mr_Grubby
31st Mar 2010, 11:51
Des.

No, mainland Asia.

C.

Vlad the Imbiber
31st Mar 2010, 12:37
Thailand?

Reminds me a little of Bang Phra, though I don't think it actually is that.

Mr_Grubby
31st Mar 2010, 13:15
Vlad.

No, not Thailand.

C.

Airclues
31st Mar 2010, 17:16
Vietnam?

Dave

Mr_Grubby
31st Mar 2010, 18:08
We're getting there !!

C.

Mr_Grubby
1st Apr 2010, 16:09
Well lets try and kick start some life here.

This place is a Provincial Capital. Remote and rarely visited by foreigners.

There, that should do it !!

C.

chevvron
1st Apr 2010, 16:59
Sounds like Nepal.

Mr_Grubby
1st Apr 2010, 17:32
chevvron.

Take a look at post # 2881

C.

larssnowpharter
1st Apr 2010, 18:16
Mainland, possibly Vietnam. Guess Central Highlands. Dahn Nak Bubong?

Mr_Grubby
1st Apr 2010, 18:36
No, not Vietnam, but close !!!!

C.

India Four Two
2nd Apr 2010, 02:06
No, not Vietnam, but close !!!!

Having checked all the provincial airports, I was coming to the same conclusion ;)

Somewhere in Laos?

larssnowpharter
2nd Apr 2010, 05:07
Perhaps an Air America connection? Long Tien?

handsfree
2nd Apr 2010, 06:17
Xam Neua (Sam Nuea or various other spellings) airfield Laos - a long shot.

Mr_Grubby
2nd Apr 2010, 08:40
handsfree.

Well done, a good long shot !

Sam Neua airfield Laos.

Sam Neua, or northern swamp, is the capital city of Houaphan Province in north east Laos.

Over to you.

Clint.:ok:

handsfree
2nd Apr 2010, 08:57
Here's one for the history buffs.

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz216/poodlejumpy/buzz.jpg

chevvron
2nd Apr 2010, 09:46
Mount Farm?

handsfree
2nd Apr 2010, 10:01
Sorry Chevvron I blinked ! It is indeed Mount Farm or probably USAAF Station 234 at the time of the photo.
You have control.

chevvron
2nd Apr 2010, 10:18
It was the condition (and Oxfordshire countryside) gave it away - I read somewhere the USAAF moved in before it was finished. I've driven round there trying to find traces but there's nothing to see on the ground, just from the air.

Open House.

leader3
2nd Apr 2010, 10:44
as it is open house here is a easy one.


http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii186/leader03/airfield1-1.jpg

handsfree
2nd Apr 2010, 11:25
Obviously not that easy. I assume it's an RAF station in the UK judging by the runway.

chevvron
2nd Apr 2010, 13:21
According to the PAPIs you were well above the glidepath.

leader3
2nd Apr 2010, 14:52
hands free you are right in that it is a RAF station.

and there is a reason for being high on the approach which i will explain later.

handsfree
2nd Apr 2010, 15:00
Boscombe Down ?

chevvron
2nd Apr 2010, 15:14
It's not too clear on my 10" screen but I'd say the taxyway pattern is wrong for Boscombe, more like Newquay/St Mawgan.

handsfree
2nd Apr 2010, 15:21
Presumably the high approach is to clear any AG.
Boscombe came to mind as it has a mix of concrete and asphalt runways. RWY 35 look most likely but doesn't seem to quite match.

Background Noise
2nd Apr 2010, 15:56
More like 05?

handsfree
2nd Apr 2010, 16:01
Background Noise.
Having had another and closer look I'd agree with you. 05 appears to be quite a good match.

leader3
2nd Apr 2010, 19:32
Handsfree you are spot on with Boscombe Down and
rwy 05.
you are also correct in that it was best to land long to avoid the arrestor gear, hence the high approach.
so over to you handsfree.

handsfree
2nd Apr 2010, 20:59
As one has been to the local Beer Festival

OPEN HOUSE

PS I can recommend the Isle of Arran Brewery Red Squirrel

larssnowpharter
3rd Apr 2010, 10:13
Here's an old one:

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t295/larssnowpharter/airfieldquiz.jpg

handsfree
3rd Apr 2010, 10:36
Traffic appears to be driving on the left but difficult to be positive. If so, then given the trees and flying chappies liking to get things done in the morning, I'd hazard a pop at the east coast of Oz.

larssnowpharter
3rd Apr 2010, 12:24
I would not worry too much about the side of the road the traffic is on. There are twin possibilities here:

1. It may well be that it changed.
2. There is some controversy as to whether this photo is a reversed image or not. My belief is that it is not and I have flown out of and into this airfield on a number of occasions.

Not Oz as you may have guessed.

evansb
3rd Apr 2010, 20:19
Nichols Field, Pasay, Philippines ?

larssnowpharter
4th Apr 2010, 03:41
Afraid not sir. However, the right country.

leader3
4th Apr 2010, 09:00
the only one i can think of in that part of the world
that has a approach from over the sea.

is Bacolod on Negros Occ

Mr_Grubby
4th Apr 2010, 09:45
Guiuan Airfield, also known as Samar Airfield, Philippines.

C.

larssnowpharter
4th Apr 2010, 10:31
'Fraid not Mr G.

Clues:

1. This airfield had a seaplane base nearby.
2. A sad tale attaches to it.

Mr_Grubby
4th Apr 2010, 12:16
I beg to differ Sir !!!


Google Image Result for http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/1057/guiuan_airfield_samar_1945.jpg (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/1057/guiuan_airfield_samar_1945.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/52759&usg=__HZNT7wA7ZLYRI5NckOSrLbdkecA=&h=434&w=441&sz=123&hl=en&start=2&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=EAQLGOD3QqC4SM:&tbnh=125&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3DGUIUAN%2BAIRFIELD%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%2 6tbs%3Disch:1)

larssnowpharter
4th Apr 2010, 13:23
As is your right, Sir.

There are indeed similarities. Between the Guiuan and the place I have in mind. My belief is that your photo has been misidentified.

PM with evidence coming your way!

larssnowpharter
4th Apr 2010, 14:12
Mr G and I have exchanged PMs and I think I am right to say that he is content to let this run. To say that the internet evidence points in more than one direction would be fair.

My belief is that the source quoted by Mr G misidentifies this airfield.

This is a map of Guiuan from the same era as the photo.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t295/larssnowpharter/147.jpg

StbdD
4th Apr 2010, 15:23
I'm going to have to go with Puerto Princesa on Palawan.

Both historical photos I have seen and a good look at google earth convinced me. The major factor was that the runway at Puerto Princesa ends at the waterline. That of Guiuan, which I had originally listed as a strong possibility in my search, ends some distance inland with the village of Guiuan between it and the sea.

The seaward end orientation of the two are different as well with one heading to the west and the shore of Leyte Gulf, the other to the east into the Sulu Sea.

Lastly, there is only one runway in the contest picture.

larssnowpharter
4th Apr 2010, 15:48
Well done, Sir! You are indeed - in my opinion - correct. I also agree with your logic. Interesting that some sources seem to have misidentified it.:confused:

I chose this airfield because of its historical significance; we are after all on the Aviation History and Nostalgia thread!


Victims of the Japanese Massacre
Puerto Princesa, Palawan, P. I.
December 14, 1944
These U.S. prisoners of war of the Japanese were on the island of Palawan, P. I., as slave laborers building an airfield for the Japanese military. Believing that an invasion by the U.S. forces was imminent, the prisoners were forced into three tunnel air raid shelters, thus following orders from the Japanese High Command to dispose of prisoners by any means available. Buckets of gasoline were thrown inside the shelters followed by flaming torches. Those not instantly killed by the explosion ran burning from the tunnels and were machine gunned and bayoneted to death.



http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t295/larssnowpharter/126.jpg


I think most will agree that it is indeed Puerto Princessa.

May I also add that the island of Palawan is a great place for a holiday if you want to get away from it all. It is sometimes called 'The Last Frontier' locally and has some wonderful sights and great diving.

Ciao

Lars

StbdD
4th Apr 2010, 16:03
Cheers Lars. I can see the confusion until the location of the village is factored in. It is truely a shame that such a beautiful location is marred by such a horrific history.

On a side note, I'd not have wanted to live in Guiuan back then with assorted aircraft flown by 19-20 year olds hauling high explosive zooming 50 feet over my head and home daily.

This one shouldn't be as difficult to sleuth but is a nice historic shot I think.

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/AHN_Pprune/Challlenge5x.jpg

Trolltuner
4th Apr 2010, 16:34
Panama?

Cheers,

Tom

StbdD
4th Apr 2010, 16:42
Not Panama Tom.

larssnowpharter
4th Apr 2010, 17:03
Mmmm. S42. Possibly (probably?) China Clipper. Pan Am.

Hawaii. Honolulu. The Pan Am base there under construction? If not suspect one of the islands on the route.

StbdD
4th Apr 2010, 17:22
Definitely a Pan Am aircraft. Not Honolulu.

Krakatoa
4th Apr 2010, 22:45
Treasure Island, San Francisco

evansb
5th Apr 2010, 00:02
Baltimore, Maryland, Municipal Seaplane base, circa 1939 ?
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/clipper_aerial.jpg

StbdD
5th Apr 2010, 00:19
That would be it evansb. We probably share the same sources. A shame the airport and seaplane base failed as business ventures.

You have the floor sir!

seacue
5th Apr 2010, 02:58
Flying has moved to KBWI and Harbor Field has been replaced by Dundalk Marine Terminal, a busy port specializing in containers and automobiles.

I think the seaplane base in the quiz was where the white ship is docked at the left of this picture.
http://www.mpa.state.md.us/CIC/terminalpdfs/Dundalk.gif

Maryland Port Administration (http://www.mpa.state.md.us/CIC/dundalk.htm)

MReyn24050
5th Apr 2010, 13:31
The list of Aerodrome Challenges has been updated today, upto and including. 04/April/2010.
Mel

evansb
5th Apr 2010, 13:39
Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD100405.jpg

evansb
6th Apr 2010, 11:05
Hint: It is located in continental Europe.

handsfree
6th Apr 2010, 14:30
That's a shame as it looks so typically Derby/Lancs/Yorkshire etc.
Time for more thought.

Switzerland ?

Mr_Grubby
6th Apr 2010, 15:36
Well I'll go for France.

C.

evansb
6th Apr 2010, 16:25
Sorry, not Switzerland nor France.

Davidsoffice
6th Apr 2010, 16:45
I thought France as well but perhaps next door....Germany? Interesting layout for Tarmac and Grass runways...Assuming it is a grass runway!

evansb
6th Apr 2010, 18:09
Sorry, not Germany. Yes, turf runway adjacent. Town is ancient and known for its castle.

leader3
6th Apr 2010, 18:53
as it seems were trying to guess countries
i will go for
Poland.

Mr_Grubby
6th Apr 2010, 19:09
And I will go for Austria !!

C.

evansb
6th Apr 2010, 21:09
Sorry, not Poland nor Austria, but getting closer.

handsfree
6th Apr 2010, 22:12
Trencin, Slovakia methinks.

evansb
6th Apr 2010, 23:27
handsfree is correct:ok: Well done:D Lovely aerodrome, lovely setting. You have control.

handsfree
7th Apr 2010, 05:34
Well here's another nice looking airfield. This will either go very quickly or turn out to be a bit of a poser.

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz216/poodlejumpy/hairyfield.jpg

Bigt
7th Apr 2010, 07:35
Southern England

handsfree
7th Apr 2010, 07:38
Certainly England but I wouldn't call it southern.

Mr_Grubby
7th Apr 2010, 08:36
Netherthorpe Aerodrome (EGNF.)

C.

handsfree
7th Apr 2010, 08:58
It is indeed Mr G.

Shortest licensed runway in the UK (and possibly Europe) at 382m x 18m. Compare that with Penzance Heliport which has a helicopter landing pad of 375m x 45m.

It used to scare the living daylights out of me as a low hours PPL but when the CFI wants to go for pie and chips, you go.

You have control.

Mr_Grubby
7th Apr 2010, 09:25
Ok, thanks handsfree.

Lets go back a few years for this next one.

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/airport59.jpg

sidtheesexist
7th Apr 2010, 12:10
Hawkinge per chance.....?

Mr_Grubby
7th Apr 2010, 12:35
sid, (or should I call you Viz!!. Great name):ok:

No sorry.

Mr G.

leader3
7th Apr 2010, 12:55
how about
Dunsfold.
and thats a complete guess.

Mr_Grubby
7th Apr 2010, 16:08
leader3

No, not Dunsfold.

C.

Russell Gulch
7th Apr 2010, 21:11
Going back one: Shortest licensed runway in the UK (and possibly Europe) at 382m x 18m.

Not quite...Leicester's licenced runway 24/06 is 335m. Ref UK AIP (http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/current/ad/EGBG/EG_AD_2_EGBG_en.pdf).

Sorry for the thread drift.

leader3
8th Apr 2010, 13:06
that was confusing!!!!!

i think its time for a clue Mr G

i think it looks like the UK somwhere.

Mr_Grubby
8th Apr 2010, 13:24
Leader3, Airclues.

Yes, I agree. A bit of Thread drift.

But to get us back on course, this areodrome is not in the United Kingdom.

Mr G.
Aka Clint.

one11
8th Apr 2010, 13:52
Baldonnel, now Irish Republic but one time RAF, hence the style of buildings

Mr_Grubby
8th Apr 2010, 15:17
One 11,

Yes of course. You are quite correct.

This picture taken in 1934.

Baldonnel is an airfield to the south west of Dublin, Ireland situated off the N7 main road route to the south and south west. Currently in use by the Irish Air Corps.

In February 1965 Baldonnel was renamed Casement Aerodrome, EIME, in honor of the Irish nationalist Roger Casement, executed for treason by the British in 1916.

You sir, have the helm.

Clint.

one11
8th Apr 2010, 15:51
Another aerial view - a bit more recent

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune0804a.jpg

Flap40
8th Apr 2010, 21:19
Got to be Hurn.

one11
8th Apr 2010, 21:56
Hurn it is , seen here with some more traffic....Over to you Flap40

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune0804all.jpg

Flap40
9th Apr 2010, 14:17
Thanks. I'm away down route at the moment so open house.

descol
9th Apr 2010, 14:45
open house - try this one ?
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/copy1.jpg

Cubs2jets
9th Apr 2010, 23:29
The original Lake Havasu, AZ airport.

C2j

descol
10th Apr 2010, 08:40
you got it C2j - over to you
Des

seacue
11th Apr 2010, 11:02
More than 25 hours and no new challenge.

Here's a quick one which I shall remove if C2j shows up quick-like.

http://members.toast.net/rcarpen/Q7654.JPG

Cubs2jets
11th Apr 2010, 12:19
Play on through, Seacue. I'll reserve my late challenge for another time. Thanks!

C2j

seacue
11th Apr 2010, 13:30
Thank you for tolerating my pushiness.
seacue

seacue
11th Apr 2010, 21:13
Ten hours and not one guess. I think this one should be easy.

The image is from a Commonwealth country.

Reason for edit: Can't add

seacue
12th Apr 2010, 11:02
Now 24 hours and not one guess. I will "unmonochromize" the image to make it easier.

Cubs2jets
12th Apr 2010, 11:16
Australia or New Zeland?

C2j

seacue
12th Apr 2010, 11:29
A very long way from the Antipodes.

Another hint: Maybe 500 miles from antipodal to a remote part of one of the Antipodes.

handsfree
12th Apr 2010, 13:20
Tobago Crown Point.
If correct I'll hand the baton to C2j as (s)he missed out last time.

Mr_Grubby
12th Apr 2010, 13:24
Hulule Airport Maldives ??

C.

seacue
12th Apr 2010, 13:29
Yes, handsfree, it is Crown Point International Airport on Tobago. That's only about 500 miles from antipodal to the NW cape of Oz.

C2j, it's your turn again.

Cubs2jets
12th Apr 2010, 16:10
Thanks, handsfree!

1929

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/AirportOne.jpg?t=1271088486

C2j

handsfree
12th Apr 2010, 19:56
I would guess at either the USA or Canada but where ever it is they are certainly going to struggle getting all those aircraft into the one hangar.

Raleigh Municipal Airport possibly.

evansb
12th Apr 2010, 21:39
Wichita, Kansas ?

seacue
12th Apr 2010, 22:29
Probably an area where there were "section roads", a one-mile grid. I think this means the US Great Plains and the Canadian Prairie Provinces. Beyond that, I have no idea.

Cubs2jets
13th Apr 2010, 01:14
Not Raleigh, not Wichita.

C2j

descol
13th Apr 2010, 13:43
how about - Whitney - Minnesota

Cubs2jets
13th Apr 2010, 18:04
Not Minnesota, but the larger "region" that the airport is located in does begin with "M".

C2j

Russell Gulch
13th Apr 2010, 22:17
Winnipeg?

Russ

aviate1138
14th Apr 2010, 06:31
Throwing caution to the wind I will go for.....

Greenville Municipal Airport, Greenville, MS

Cubs2jets
14th Apr 2010, 14:04
Not "Winterpig" not Greenville.

This airport is located in the capitol city of the region that begins with "M".

C2j

descol
14th Apr 2010, 14:50
Parks Airport - Illinois ?

Mr_Grubby
14th Apr 2010, 18:37
Lansing, MI, Ford Airport, May 19, 1931

C.

Cubs2jets
14th Apr 2010, 18:59
Well, there ya go! That wasn't that hard.

Over to you Mr. Grubby.

C2j

Mr_Grubby
15th Apr 2010, 09:42
Thanks C2j.

And the next is :-

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/airport58.jpg

descol
16th Apr 2010, 08:37
Good Morning Mr G.
To get this moving - can we rule OZ in or out ?

Mr_Grubby
16th Apr 2010, 09:06
Morning Des.

Sorry, I intended to add a clue this morning to kick start things but have been preoccupied. We are trying to get to Italy but it is not looking good.

This airport is many miles from Oz. Northern Hemisphere.

C.

chevvron
16th Apr 2010, 16:25
You ain't going anywhere today; how about Sumburgh?

evansb
16th Apr 2010, 20:18
Joplin, MO ?

Mr_Grubby
16th Apr 2010, 20:33
No,
Not in Missouri, but the right country.

C.

Mr_Grubby
18th Apr 2010, 09:37
chevvron.

Just reread your post. Not sure if Sumburgh is a guess or an alternative suggestion for our intended destination !!!

Either way, no. Not Sumburgh and Italy didn't happen.

C.

chevvron
19th Apr 2010, 05:21
It was a guess; Sumburgh's original terminal was a house next to a parking circle similar to the photo.
Fairoaks operating as normal - you might find someone there willing to take you.

Mr_Grubby
19th Apr 2010, 07:29
chevvron.

Not Sumburgh, but in the USA.

C.