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descol
11th Feb 2010, 07:15
thanks krakatoa.
where's this ?
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/dc.jpg

chevvron
11th Feb 2010, 09:07
Norwich (Air Anglia Fokker c1972 - they went bust in Sept)

descol
11th Feb 2010, 10:25
C.
1972 - Yes
Fokker - Yes
Norwich - No

Mr_Grubby
11th Feb 2010, 11:19
Channel Islands ?

descol
11th Feb 2010, 11:31
Mr G
not CI
not UK

Old Bald Pilot
11th Feb 2010, 11:46
Stavanger ?

OBP

descol
11th Feb 2010, 11:56
OBP
Not Stavanger

chevvron
11th Feb 2010, 14:10
Very wet but not UK so it's not Wales, must be Ireland- Eglington?

descol
11th Feb 2010, 14:19
Not the wet Ireland I know
wet but warm - s. hemisphere

evansb
11th Feb 2010, 14:34
Dunedin, NZ ?

descol
11th Feb 2010, 14:56
Evansb
Correct hemisphere but not Dunedin

leader3
11th Feb 2010, 15:28
Darwin, Aus.

descol
11th Feb 2010, 15:38
getting warmer - but not Darwin

Double Hydco
11th Feb 2010, 16:23
Port Moresby, PNG?

evansb
11th Feb 2010, 16:46
MacKay, Queensland, Australia ?

descol
11th Feb 2010, 16:56
evansb
Yes
It's Mackay, Qld -
The Control tower - style - integrated into the roof of the Terminal - replaced in July 1972 by the more modern free standing.
Nice picture of the F27 eh ?
Over to you

evansb
11th Feb 2010, 18:26
Beauty! Fairly drips nostalgia! Good angle and composition. Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
(I,m replacing the original post with a better photo..)
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD100211.jpg

Trolltuner
11th Feb 2010, 19:08
London, ONT ?

T.

con-pilot
11th Feb 2010, 19:17
Everett, Washington. Where the wide body Boeing aircraft, including the 787, are built.

evansb
11th Feb 2010, 20:30
con-pilot is correct. :ok:Paine Field, (KPAE), Everett, WA. North of Seattle, south of Bellingham. Home of what was, and may still be, the largest one-roofed building. You have control.

con-pilot
11th Feb 2010, 21:00
Thank you. The next....

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/con-pilot/0840400.jpg

seacue
11th Feb 2010, 22:59
Albuquerque KABQ, joint use civil and military.

Captain Airclues
11th Feb 2010, 23:04
Beijing (ZBAA)

Dave

con-pilot
12th Feb 2010, 00:39
Beijing (ZBAA)

Dave

You got it, I figured that anyone that had operated in Beijing just before the Olympics would recognize the airport.

That photo was taken about a year before the Olympics. I am also sure it was taken the day after we landed, as all the white paint was still white. When we left three weeks later it was brown on all the upper facing surfaces because of all the air pollution.

Captain Airclues
12th Feb 2010, 09:01
One day I will get around to buying a slide scanner but until then it's;

OPEN HOUSE

Dave

Mr_Grubby
12th Feb 2010, 10:11
One from me.

C.

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/airport50.jpg

chevvron
12th Feb 2010, 15:17
Harpsden Park/Shiplake near Henley on Thames.(Well it's got runways with a very narrow convergence plus a tree on the edge of one so it's worth a try!!) I'm at work; you at home?

Mr_Grubby
12th Feb 2010, 15:54
chevvron.

No.

Work ??? what is this word ? I'm at home.

C.

con-pilot
12th Feb 2010, 16:44
For some reason I believe that the airport in question is in California and was used in the making of a movie in the 30's. One clue is the golf course.

(Probably totally wrong.)

Mr_Grubby
12th Feb 2010, 17:09
Con-pilot.

No, not California but certainly the US of A.

C.

merlinxx
13th Feb 2010, 06:24
Gotta be the US just check the railroad trucks:confused:

Mr_Grubby
13th Feb 2010, 11:10
Ok, a clue.

It predates a much larger airport with the same name, though not in the same State.

Old Bald Pilot
13th Feb 2010, 13:28
Charles B Wheeler. Kansas City MO.

Mr_Grubby
13th Feb 2010, 14:03
OBP.

No, sorry.

merlinxx
13th Feb 2010, 15:51
Numpty guess, what became MSP/KMSP, shoot I think I know which side of the river, but brainhurtz:ugh:

Mr_Grubby
13th Feb 2010, 16:58
merlinxx, no.

Clue..

This airport shares its name with a great sea battle.

C.

con-pilot
13th Feb 2010, 17:11
Con-pilot.

No, not California but certainly the US of A.


Okay, great then. :ok:

I was totally wrong.

con-pilot
13th Feb 2010, 17:18
This airport shares its name with a great sea battle.


Huh, Chicago Midway, KMDW?

KMDW was not named for the Battle, but because it is located about midway across the US.

Mr_Grubby
13th Feb 2010, 17:32
con-pilot


Not Chigago Midway but ................

C

India Four Two
14th Feb 2010, 04:33
Bismarck, MO?

StbdD
14th Feb 2010, 05:22
Given the multiple train tracks, the vintage of the buildings and vehicles, the general appearance and your hints I'm going to guess Amon Carter Field (nee 'Midway') which is a portion the site of the current DFW and lies partway between Dallas and Ft Worth, Texas.

AKA Arlington Airport, Greater Fort Worth International Airport, and Greater Southwest International Airport.

Mr_Grubby
14th Feb 2010, 08:23
India Four Two and StbdD, no.


Right then, this should give it away,

the aerodrome is in New York State.

C.

descol
14th Feb 2010, 09:02
Mr G - how about Syracuse ?

India Four Two
14th Feb 2010, 09:29
Plattsburgh on Lake Champlain?

Mr_Grubby
14th Feb 2010, 09:32
No Des !!

The ironic thing is that the aerodrome name has already been mentioned but not in the correct location !!

Clint.:ugh:

descol
14th Feb 2010, 09:37
I bet it's midway - but can't pinpoint it in NY ?
I will have another search - and see if someone else gets it in the meantime.

Mr_Grubby
14th Feb 2010, 09:45
The picture was taken in about 1944.

C.

Mr_Grubby
14th Feb 2010, 10:35
Des.

Ok, think you have it. It is, or rather was, Midway Airfield, Allegany, New York State.

Not a very good challenge as so little on offer. A quick Google search will bring up the picture and a little history.

As an aside, Chicago Municipal Airport was renamed Midway Airport in 1949, to commemorate the 1942 Battle of Midway, a turning point for the United States in World War II.

You have the helm.

C.:ok:

descol
14th Feb 2010, 10:58
Mr G.
I could not find 'midway' - out of curiosity I will try again with Allegany.
At one point I thought the sea battle clue was 'Waterloo' and was going to suggest Waterloo Airteck Airport in NY - but ... thanks for the handover
How about this one ?
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/old.jpg

seacue
14th Feb 2010, 12:34
No idea of where, but the vehicle is going the British way around the round-about. So, Commonwealth or Sweden? Looks very cold / some snow.

descol
14th Feb 2010, 13:25
Seacue
Interesting that you noted the vehicle direction ?
Commonwealth - yes
But where ?

Kieron Kirk
14th Feb 2010, 14:47
New Zealand ?

Ciarain.

Mr_Grubby
14th Feb 2010, 15:00
Cambridge Airport, Hobart Tasmania, 1942.

descol
14th Feb 2010, 15:38
Well, Mr G. - you got that one fast.
Over to you again.

Mr_Grubby
14th Feb 2010, 16:03
Try this.


http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/Airport49.jpg

con-pilot
14th Feb 2010, 18:01
As an aside, Chicago Municipal Airport was renamed Midway Airport in 1949, to commemorate the 1942 Battle of Midway, a turning point for the United States in World War II.


Bugger, batting a 1000 on being wrong. :(

SilentHandover
14th Feb 2010, 21:01
Vliegveld Waalhaven, Rotterdam?

If correct I have no idea how to post a pic so open house.

SH

Mr_Grubby
15th Feb 2010, 08:27
SilentHandover,

Correct.

Open house as you said :ok:

C.

descol
15th Feb 2010, 08:39
open house -
here's one
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/a.jpg

Double Hydco
15th Feb 2010, 09:15
Moose Jaw?

DH

descol
15th Feb 2010, 10:16
DH
North America - yes
but not McEwen - Moose Jaw - Sask

twochai
15th Feb 2010, 13:10
North America - yes

Who else but Canadians would build the hockey rink first?

The zig-zag rail fencing around the farmer's field might suggest eastern Canada, but I'm not certain about the types of aircraft. Fairchild Cornell, maybe, with a a couple of Tiger Moths thrown in?

descol
15th Feb 2010, 13:29
twochai
Sure - it looks like a hockey pitch,
It's not Canada.
Initialy the aerodrome was used for US navy training -

evansb
16th Feb 2010, 02:07
NAS Norman, Oklahoma ?

descol
16th Feb 2010, 08:08
evansb
not oklahoma
further north

India Four Two
16th Feb 2010, 09:35
Hutchinson, KS?

Trolltuner
16th Feb 2010, 12:21
des, it looks a lot like Newport Naval Outer Landing Field, Newport, Michigan (just a ways outside of Detroit) ?

Cheers,

Tom

descol
16th Feb 2010, 12:47
Tom
You got it
over to you

Trolltuner
16th Feb 2010, 17:48
Thanks, des.

Hope this one hasn't been here before (where'd the "list" go?): :)

http://www.182stc.com/storage/flyplasser/naero.jpg

MReyn24050
17th Feb 2010, 14:04
(where'd the "list" go?):
The list can be found in the "sticky" entitled :- What Cockpit and What Aerodrome latest Lists at the top of the "Aviation History and Nostalgia" Page.
Mel

Mr_Grubby
17th Feb 2010, 14:26
Mel.

Great job you are doing there.

Thanks from me and I'm sure all the other regulars on this thread.

Clint.

:ok::ok::ok:

descol
17th Feb 2010, 14:41
Mel,
I'll buy ya a pint in Dublin some day
Des

Trolltuner
17th Feb 2010, 16:05
Mel, I checked "the list" and this one's not on it. Nice thing you're doing there, so let me add my thanks. Let me buy the first pint in Dublin, then Clint and Des can sponsor, eh? :):)

So, a hint: Many a Brit military man (woman?) has spent time in the barracks in the woods to the left (south side) of that runway.

Cheers,

Tom

Mr_Grubby
17th Feb 2010, 17:22
How about Bardufoss Airport ?

C.

Trolltuner
17th Feb 2010, 17:55
Yes, "How about Bardufoss" - but no, sorry, that's not it. :)

Cheers,

T.

sycamore
17th Feb 2010, 20:24
And it`s not Fagernes,is it ?

flyingwing
17th Feb 2010, 21:26
Geilo airport, Dagali, Norway?

Trolltuner
17th Feb 2010, 23:25
Sycamore and Flyingwing, no not Fagernes nor Dagali.

Tom

chevvron
18th Feb 2010, 15:18
Bodo or Farsund?

Trolltuner
18th Feb 2010, 16:02
Bodo or Farsund?

No. South of the former, north of (and closer to) the latter. Hint: Good water. :)

Cheers,

Tom

Mr_Grubby
18th Feb 2010, 19:23
Voss Airport,ENBM ,Bomoen,Norway.

C.

Trolltuner
18th Feb 2010, 19:31
YES ! And Mr. G. has it !

Allied military training there is no longer, but the airport is used a lot during the summer "extreme athletics" week at Voss.

Take it away ! :)

Cheers,

Tom

Mr_Grubby
19th Feb 2010, 07:56
Thanks Tom,

This should not take long.

C.

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/airport53.JPG

Trolltuner
19th Feb 2010, 09:55
Bordeaux-Mérignac Airport ? If so, the distinctive tower and BE's 146 helped. :)

Cheers,

Tom

Mr_Grubby
19th Feb 2010, 10:29
Yes Tom !!!

Toooooo.... easy.

Over to you.

C.:ok:

Trolltuner
19th Feb 2010, 12:21
OK, Clint - this one may be a little more obscure, so I'll start off with a hint: Early morning, ILS freq = 109.5.

http://www.182stc.com/storage/flyplasser/atato.jpg

(BTW, feeling better?) :)

Cheers,

Tom

Mr_Grubby
20th Feb 2010, 13:24
Well, we seem to have stalled a bit with this one.

Can I start the ball rolling by suggesting Northern Hemisphere not Southern ?

C.

sycamore
20th Feb 2010, 15:11
Europe,possibly Holland ?

Mr_Grubby
20th Feb 2010, 15:46
Yes sycamore, I agree.

If it is Northern Hem. I was going to suggest France or Holland.

C.

Trolltuner
20th Feb 2010, 18:53
Sorry folks, I've been away and a bit remiss.

Go "West" young men, go far, far west.

I did say it would be a bit obscure. Maybe this will help: The airplane shown departing the aerodrome was photographed just north of the field like this:

http://www.182stc.com/storage/flyplasser/18NFlying3.jpg

Although still perhaps a little rocky, there are clues in the picture.

Cheers,

Tom

evansb
21st Feb 2010, 02:54
Fort Collins/Loveland Municipal, (KFNL), Colorado. Elev. 5015 ft. Looks like the Cessna 182 is climbing off runway 33. It also appears the short (2,273 ft.), and narrow (40 ft.) crosswind runway 6-24 is no longer extant since my last visit in an Ercoupe back in the day. The runway's former location is faintly visible in the departing C182's three o'clock position.

India Four Two
21st Feb 2010, 02:58
bri beat me to it by two minutes. ;)

It looks like it was setting up to be a good "wave" day.

tt, tell us more about the C182 and its camera.

Trolltuner
21st Feb 2010, 03:21
evansb, right on target ! You got it ! :)

BTW, 6 - 24 (2270 x 40 ft, asphalt) is still in use - not the faint part you mention at my 3 between RWY 33 and the taxiway, but the part that extends east from there.

That's actually me in the 182Q in both pictures. Was out doing some flight test work - by the afternoon, the winds were howling out of the west, so I was very happy to still have RWY 24 available. :) Only used about a fourth of it - did I say windy? :ugh:

6/24 is also used as a taxiway for access to the east airport facilities (not in the pix).

Your turn. Take it away !

Cheers,

Tom

Trolltuner
21st Feb 2010, 03:43
....It looks like it was setting up to be a good "wave" day...

India Four Two, how very perceptive of you - I wrote my note about the afternoon winds above before I read your comments. I can tell you that the rest of Colorado and all of Wyoming wasn't much better - not the best day for recording flight test data. :rolleyes:

....tt, tell us more about the C182 and its camera.

Was a bunch of years ago now - was actually my first airplane, subsequently sold to the electro optics company that made the camera payload (in this case a long range, daylight surveillance cam - but they later developed much more sophisticated payloads with all kinds of neat "spook" stuff in 'em. Several 182 and other fixed wing platforms are now certified and still out there doing "special mission" work.

The pod on the belly is a GPS steered directional antenna for sending real-time imagery - developed from what started in my garage back in the '80s. Ah, those were fun times, but the fishin's better in Norway. :)

Cheers,

Tom

evansb
21st Feb 2010, 03:50
Thanks Tom. Does the Skylane handle okay with all that hardware hanging on it? I thought that was an "Enviropod" beneath the fuselage. Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD100221.jpg

Trolltuner
21st Feb 2010, 11:11
Just a stab in the dark: Downsview, Ontario ? If not, it still looks a lot like an aerospace manufacturing plant, eh?

....Does the Skylane handle okay with all that hardware hanging on it? ? I thought that was an "Enviropod" beneath the fuselage.....

Surprisingly, aside from a small reduction in cruise airspeed and a little bit in climb, no ill effects at all, no asymmetric handling issues.

You'll most often see the "Skypod" on news media helicopters worldwide.

Cheers,

Tom

Mr_Grubby
21st Feb 2010, 11:31
Is it the Cessna factory at Wichita, Kansas ?

C.

aviate1138
21st Feb 2010, 11:59
I'll try the Republic Airport Long Island?

evansb
21st Feb 2010, 15:45
aviate1138 is correct:ok: Republic Airport, at Farmingdale, Long Island, New York. You have control.

aviate1138
21st Feb 2010, 16:38
Thanks evansb. Will be coming up with an easy peasy one shortly.

Unfortunately the two easy ones have already been done.........

So here is an airfield that might be a little harder - or not....... 1943 vintage

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/Picture20-1.jpg

Here is a later pic


http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/IMGP1486JPG.jpg

A clue.

Seaward runway had FIDO fitted. Remains were still visible in '78 when I last visited.

SeenTheLight
22nd Feb 2010, 09:09
Arcata, California?

Old Bald Pilot
22nd Feb 2010, 16:40
You saw the light before me. Naval Auxiliary Air Station, Arcata
(Coast Guard Air Station, Humboldt Bay

aviate1138
23rd Feb 2010, 05:54
STL - You have the green light.
Arcata/Eureka
It was one of the foggiest areas on the Pacific Coast. As a result FIDO was installed. The FIDO pipes were still visible but disconnected, in shallow ditches off the runway edges, in '78/'81.

SeenTheLight
23rd Feb 2010, 13:45
Thanks aviate.
I did have one lined up, but just noticed it has already been done, so Open House!

descol
23rd Feb 2010, 14:20
Thanks - STL
Open House !
So --
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/feb23.jpg

Mr_Grubby
23rd Feb 2010, 15:12
Adelaide / Parafields Airport.

C.

Mr_Grubby
23rd Feb 2010, 15:48
On second thought, not Parafields.

Archerfield Ops / Admin building.

C.

descol
23rd Feb 2010, 16:06
g'day Mr G.
you are - again - correct - it is Archerfield.
I will need to trawl some obscure stuff in order to keep you guessing !
regards and over to you.
Des

Mr_Grubby
23rd Feb 2010, 17:16
This place could do with a lick of paint !!

C.

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/airport51.jpg

sycamore
23rd Feb 2010, 18:40
Then it must be in Malaysia ..

chevvron
23rd Feb 2010, 18:57
Montserrat before the 'deluge'.

Mr_Grubby
23rd Feb 2010, 19:12
sycamore & chevvron.

No and no.

C.

barry lloyd
23rd Feb 2010, 19:16
Could it be Barbuda?

Mr_Grubby
23rd Feb 2010, 20:23
barry lloyd.

No sir, not Barbuda.

C.

seacue
24th Feb 2010, 01:00
I've been to a number of the Comonwealth islands in the Caribbean and this doesn't look like any I visited. Not Tobago, Grenada, Carriacou, Bequia, Union, St Vincent, St Kitts. Don't think it is either airport on Dominica.

Could it be Canouan, quite a few years ago?

If not, at least somewhere in the Grenadines...

descol
24th Feb 2010, 07:22
Is it in the Solomon Islands ?

Mr_Grubby
24th Feb 2010, 08:11
seascue.

Not in the Carribean.

Des

Not the Solomon Islands but you are in the right part of the world.

C.

descol
24th Feb 2010, 09:03
how about Fiji ?

Hyperborean
24th Feb 2010, 09:17
Or PNG perhaps?

Mr_Grubby
24th Feb 2010, 09:52
The Fiji Islands is correct, but this is an island within the Fiji group.

C.

descol
24th Feb 2010, 10:27
C.
There are 322 islands in Fiji and even though I lived there for 15 years, I have not been to this one, so, if you let me guess it may be either Gau or Lakeba ? -
Des

Mr_Grubby
24th Feb 2010, 11:05
Des.

This airfield serves the Islands main town which is 22km away.
The Island was founded by traders and settlers as early as 1830. It was the first permament European settlement in the Pacific islands.

C.

Capot
24th Feb 2010, 11:06
I'll go for Lakemba as a definite choice, but cede to descol if that's the right answer. Photo possibly fairly old?

Edit - just seen the distance clue, so scrub Lakemba!

Capot
24th Feb 2010, 11:18
Could it be Savusavu?

descol
24th Feb 2010, 11:43
must be Levuka

Mr_Grubby
24th Feb 2010, 11:55
YES !!!

Levuka Airfield, Ovalau.

Well done Des, over to you.

C.:ok:

descol
24th Feb 2010, 13:13
Thanks C -
How about this one ?
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/50-1.jpg

merlinxx
24th Feb 2010, 13:38
Got to be India, Pakistan or Burma. BOAC type coach, B170, IL14 types. Shoot I can't even go for it, but Rangoon ?

descol
24th Feb 2010, 14:25
merlinnxx
Interestin reply - but not Burma

Mr_Grubby
24th Feb 2010, 14:49
How about Mangalor Airport, Victoria. Aus.

C.

one11
24th Feb 2010, 14:52
Looks more like ANA - Australian National that is, not All Nippon - with DC-3 DC-4 and B.170. How about Melbourne - Essendon ?

descol
24th Feb 2010, 15:59
C. you are the fountain of all knowledge.:ok::ok::ok:
Yes - it's Mangalore - with the E
Used during the post war years as a diversion airport for Melbourne -
Diversions due to fog.
Yes - on the apron a DC-3, a DC-4 , and the Bristol F
It's all yours
Des

Mr_Grubby
24th Feb 2010, 17:47
Thanks Des.

Mangalore was the name given to the original station (farm) in the area held by Joseph and John Anderson in 1838. John was serving at the time at Mangalore, India, in the British Army, and hence the station was called Mangalore by his brother Joseph, who was also ex British Army.

I seem to have been hogging the thread a lot recently, so open house.
Let someone else have a go.

C.:)

Fishtailed
24th Feb 2010, 18:47
It's a long time since I entered this, so try this one.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/fishtailed/navex013.jpg

sycamore
24th Feb 2010, 19:47
Beccles,Norfolk ?

chevvron
24th Feb 2010, 23:40
London (Ashford) aka Lympne?

Fishtailed
25th Feb 2010, 19:25
Sorry not Lympne or Beccles.

Tacklebury
25th Feb 2010, 19:50
Sandtoft, before the new runway.

Tack.

Fishtailed
25th Feb 2010, 23:58
Not Sandtoft either.

chevvron
26th Feb 2010, 10:24
Presumably it is in the UK?

Vlad the Imbiber
26th Feb 2010, 10:37
Burscough, Lancashire.

Open House if correct.

Fishtailed
26th Feb 2010, 16:47
Vlad is correct, formerly RNAS Burscough.

Old Bald Pilot
26th Feb 2010, 17:43
Anybody know when the FAA moved out of Burscough. I grew up in the that area late 40s early 50s but never saw an aircraft there. Lots of little black hangars but no aircraft.

Any road up here's one from the mid 1980s.

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww34/ericshipley/Fuji.jpg

OBP

Capot
26th Feb 2010, 18:50
Old Bucken'am?

Flap40
26th Feb 2010, 18:56
Purely a guess based on where I saw that airship in the late 80's - Deauville?

Mr_Grubby
26th Feb 2010, 20:26
Fairoaks ?

C.

Old Bald Pilot
26th Feb 2010, 20:41
Capot and Flap 40

Sorry
No to Norfolk
and No to Normandy

OBP

Old Bald Pilot
26th Feb 2010, 21:00
C.
Not Fairoaks
OBP.

barry lloyd
26th Feb 2010, 21:12
OBP:

Can't offer a really sensible suggestion other than Panshanger, but here's a website re HMS Ringtail, which you might find interesting:

HISTORY OF RNAS BURSCOUGH (HMS RINGTAIL) WEBSITE (http://www.hms-ringtail.co.uk/)

norwich
26th Feb 2010, 21:30
Compton Abbas could be a good guess ??

Keith.

Old Bald Pilot
26th Feb 2010, 22:11
Thanks for the link Barry. interesting website.

Not Panshangar though.

OBP

Old Bald Pilot
26th Feb 2010, 22:17
Keith, (Miller by any chance?)

Not Compton Abbas. Flap40 is closest so far.

OBP

Mr_Grubby
27th Feb 2010, 13:16
Toussus-Le-Noble, 1982

C.

Old Bald Pilot
27th Feb 2010, 13:48
Not Toussus, the airport is now served by Ryanair.

OBP

sycamore
27th Feb 2010, 14:37
How about Tours ?

Old Bald Pilot
27th Feb 2010, 15:48
Not Val de Loire. But on the subject of Tours there are plenty to this nearby attraction.

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww34/ericshipley/Portugal006.jpg

OBP

Capot
27th Feb 2010, 16:27
Eh bien alors, Dinard?

Old Bald Pilot
27th Feb 2010, 16:44
Mais oui, mon ami. Vous avez controle.

Vieux Chauve Pilote.

Capot
27th Feb 2010, 18:11
Merci.

Here's one found, scanned, and uploaded in a rush because Mme has called a 3-line whip on social activity this evening. I'm sorry about the quality, and what's more the airfield has been done before, evidently, but I hope from a very different angle. If anyone objects, I'll happily withdraw and call Maison Ouverte....

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/picshooter/scan0002-1.jpg

Mr_Grubby
27th Feb 2010, 19:22
Austin Meuller Airport, Texas.

C.

one11
27th Feb 2010, 19:29
Or, if those are AA 727s and BAC 1-11s on the gates rather than Braniff, how about La Guardia, NYC ? The tower base top centre looks right too.

Capot
27th Feb 2010, 19:53
Ah well, I thought it might be too easy....I cropped most of the tower but left too much perhaps..

I loved Flight's 1967 caption..

"La Guardia's nose-loading extendible piers serving a gaggle of American Airlines' BAC One-Elevens and Boeing 727s. The Cessna Centurion in the lower foreground looks as though it is about to be sucked in by the nearby predatory pier."

One11, it's all yours.

one11
27th Feb 2010, 20:34
One for the late shift.....(Well in this time-zone anyway)

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune2802.jpg

KeMac
28th Feb 2010, 06:38
A rough guess - Bogota?

one11
28th Feb 2010, 08:47
Not Bogota but in the right direction

twochai
28th Feb 2010, 10:06
Not Bogota but in the right direction

Before the rest of the buggers on this continent arise:

"El Alto" La Paz International Airport, Bolivia. At 13,313' the world's highest.

That's a Lloyd Aero Boliviano 727 (their one and only, at the time, IIRC) refuelling for another flight. LAB was a great little airline, well run with a good record, at least in those days (RIP).

Pity the shot didn't include one of the the B-17 (love those turbo chargers at 13K'!) or C-46 freighters which used to haul the world's best beef up from Bolivia's Amazon ranches.

one11
28th Feb 2010, 10:58
"El Alto" La Paz International Airport, Bolivia. At 13,313' the world's highest.


Thats the one. Your control twochai

twochai
28th Feb 2010, 11:31
Thanks, One Eleven.

Of course, if you have aircraft, or engine, high altitude development/performance testing to be done, where better to get it done than at the world's highest airport? (Is that how you acquired that photo, One Eleven??)

Panagra, later PanAm, used to stage through La Paz with their high powered 720's. The PanAm station engineer used to keep a very special rubber mallet handy for those days (most days!) when an engine would 'cold hang' during start-up: hit the FCU in just the right place, at just the right moment, and the JT-3D would accelerate through the stall... Worked every time - skill and experience was as important as manuals then.

Sorry, nothing to post: OPEN HOUSE

one11
28th Feb 2010, 11:43
twochai.....

(Is that how you acquired that photo, One Eleven??)

Nothing so exotic - just spent more time inside the 1-11 as PAX than anything else - and never in Bolivia ! As you mentioned the B-17 and assuming thread rules allow two-in-a-row.............


http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune2902.jpg

Mr_Grubby
28th Feb 2010, 11:51
I never realized that La Paz was that high.

So when you land, do you use QNH or QFE ? There must be a phenomenal differance between the two. How does the Standard Setting of 1013.5 mb fit in ?

Clint.:confused::confused:

twochai
28th Feb 2010, 12:30
Do you use QNE or QFH?

You Brits aren't still using QFE, are you? Don't you want to know how high is the rest of the world???

QFE works well for avoiding hitting the runway too hard, but it doesn't work worth a damn avoiding the hard stuff around the edges of the airport.

('Scuse the thread creep)

India Four Two
28th Feb 2010, 13:19
Mr. G,

On normal altimeters you run out of subscale, even at relatively low altitudes. In an idle moment at a gliding field near Calgary I couldn't wind back to zero from the field elevation of 3800'. However, I can imagine the La Paz ATIS "QNH 1013 mb, QFE 453 mb"!

Mr_Grubby
28th Feb 2010, 17:30
Sorry for the brief thread drift gentlemen. I have had a couple of PM's explaing QNE.

All sorted now.

Mr G.:ok:

one11
28th Feb 2010, 21:28
In case anyone needs clarification after the LaPaz diversion, the current challenge is at #2674, but probably not clue time yet.

sycamore
28th Feb 2010, 21:37
As it looks `mediterranean`,with a B-17 parked,and seems like large dirty stains on dispersal,could it be a `Protection Civile` base, possibly Ajaccio ?

one11
1st Mar 2010, 08:56
Not Ajaccio but the B-17 would have been French and a bit further from home

Old Bald Pilot
1st Mar 2010, 12:00
How about Libreville, Gabon.

OBP

one11
1st Mar 2010, 14:18
Not Libreville or Gabon - right continent.

Davidsoffice
1st Mar 2010, 15:37
Shot in the dark...Tangier?

one11
1st Mar 2010, 15:42
Further south.......indeed a lot further

sycamore
1st Mar 2010, 15:47
Couldn`t be Dakar ?

one11
1st Mar 2010, 15:53
Not Dakar. Would have been more accurate to say South West from Tangier.
The airport is currently undertaking a major expansion programme up to A380 capability.

Davidsoffice
1st Mar 2010, 15:58
I'd looked at Reunion on Google but discounted it......????? and I suppose that's SE!

one11
1st Mar 2010, 16:02
Not Reunion - but if that Air France A380 ever gets to fly from Paris it will involve two over-water stretches..........

descol
1st Mar 2010, 16:06
how about Antananarivo

one11
1st Mar 2010, 16:07
......and it should be South-East from Tangier - apologies.:ugh:

one11
1st Mar 2010, 16:12
Despite my geographical disorientation Descol has it. Ivato airport , Antananarivo , Madagascar - it would probably have still been Tananarive when the Institute Geographique National air survey B-17 was there.

Descol has control

Cheers Doug

descol
1st Mar 2010, 19:55
Thanks Doug
Others led me to it !
Hope this one ha not been up b 4
If so, Sori.
Des
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/descol/march1.jpg

one11
1st Mar 2010, 21:27
Could it be the first Washington DC airport - Hoover Field ?

seacue
1st Mar 2010, 23:46
Grrr!! Beaten to one of the few I recognize! (I think.)

descol
2nd Mar 2010, 07:52
Seacue, One 11 got it - 2 hours before you - maybe next time !
Yes, it's Washington Hoover.
The Hoover part - Washington's first commercial airport opened in 1926.
The Washington part, across the road opened in 1927.
In the 30's both merged and developed strealined Art Deco buildings -including a swiming pool !
Its life was limited - sod runways - no expansion possibilities etc.
By 1949 it was gone - .
All yours seacue or one 11- if you don't have anything presently
Des

one11
2nd Mar 2010, 07:58
I think this has been listed before but a significantly different view....

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune0103.jpg

seacue
2nd Mar 2010, 11:07
descol
Washington-Hoover was closed immediately after Washington National KDCA opened less than one mile south of it in June 1941. The Pentagon was built in 21 months where Washington Hoover had been located. Construction of the Pentagon started in September 1941.

I think you will find that the swimming pool was a completely separate operation.

In my early youth, I'd get my parents to park on a little hill south/SE of Hoover Field so I could watch the planes. The only type I can remember is the Pennsylvania Central Airlines DC-2. Too bad I can't remember the older types. Oops, I just admitted how old I am.

one11
3rd Mar 2010, 08:12
Coming up to clue time......despite the heavy French presence this is not French territory.

oldpax
3rd Mar 2010, 08:27
Beunos aires?

one11
3rd Mar 2010, 14:46
Not Buenos Aires. Much closer to you, Oldpax

Hyperborean
3rd Mar 2010, 16:36
Vientiane, on the basis that Laos was a protectorate rather than a colony?

one11
3rd Mar 2010, 16:44
Not Vientiane and no connection with the French except as a stop on the Indo China route

Krakatoa
3rd Mar 2010, 21:09
Could it be Rangoon

one11
3rd Mar 2010, 21:53
Not Rangoon .....this one remained the principal international airport for its country until 2006.

Krakatoa
3rd Mar 2010, 22:41
Don Muang (spelling ?) Bangkok

Old Bald Pilot
3rd Mar 2010, 22:54
Angkor International Airport Cambodia ?

oldpax
4th Mar 2010, 04:43
I think its "Taoyuan international,Taiwan"!!

one11
4th Mar 2010, 07:51
Karakatoa got it. Bangkok Don Muang around 1938.


WEll done - you have control.

Krakatoa
4th Mar 2010, 08:49
Open house gentlemen, fill your boots

Warmtoast
4th Mar 2010, 11:52
As it's Open House try this for size:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Where5.jpg

chevvron
4th Mar 2010, 14:03
Berne Belp?

Warmtoast
4th Mar 2010, 15:34
Not
Berne Belp

Mr_Grubby
4th Mar 2010, 19:50
Genkzwartberg Airfield.

C.

Warmtoast
4th Mar 2010, 20:19
Mr Grubby is right.

Genk-Zwartberg airfield Belgium (EBZW) it is and as it appeared last September.

Take it away Mr Grubby!

Mr_Grubby
5th Mar 2010, 09:44
Sorry about the poor quality of the photograph.

C.

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/airport35.jpg

chevvron
5th Mar 2010, 11:01
Qrendi (Malta)?

Mr_Grubby
5th Mar 2010, 13:06
chevvron.

Not Malta.

C.

evansb
5th Mar 2010, 21:13
Is it a U.S. military airfield in the Pacific?

descol
6th Mar 2010, 09:04
The Pacific - that narrows it down - how about Palmyra ?

Mr_Grubby
6th Mar 2010, 10:21
Des,

No, not Palmyra but Pacific area.

C.

descol
6th Mar 2010, 11:10
How about Port Allen airport Hawaii ?

Mr_Grubby
6th Mar 2010, 13:13
Des.

Bit too far east.

Think S. E. Asia and a Dutch conection.

C.

descol
6th Mar 2010, 13:43
Can't think of any 'Dutch' in the Pacific - more like Indonesia - perhaps Timor ?

Mr_Grubby
6th Mar 2010, 14:38
Des.

Yes, prehaps Pacific was a bit of a red herring.

You are spot on now though but not Timor.

C.

evansb
6th Mar 2010, 17:04
Palembang P1, Sumatra.

Mr_Grubby
6th Mar 2010, 17:51
Yes Bri,

You are correct. Well done.

Sorry about the Pacific red herring.

The day we did geography at school I bunked off. So I missed out.


Clint.:ugh:

descol
6th Mar 2010, 19:34
well done evansb

evansb
6th Mar 2010, 23:18
Thanks Clint. I enjoyed that challenge. I'm not sure if Sumatra would be considered PTO or CBI theatre in WW.II. Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD100306.jpg

India Four Two
7th Mar 2010, 11:10
brian,

I'll start the ball rolling. Single digit runway numbers and those distinctive turn-around loops - USA, possibly West Coast?

evansb
7th Mar 2010, 15:00
Hello Simon. Yes, it is in the U.S., but not on the west coast. The aerodrome is still in operation.

englishkev
8th Mar 2010, 18:14
Looking at the terminal/hanger area its not Orlando Herndon is it ?

Kev

evansb
8th Mar 2010, 19:13
Sorry, not Orlando. Not Florida. Farther north.. Here is a recent photo of the mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD100307.png

Old Bald Pilot
9th Mar 2010, 00:41
Erie International looks possible.

JPSantiago
9th Mar 2010, 02:19
Definitely Erie, that's Presque Isle coming off the shoreline in the background.

evansb
9th Mar 2010, 05:38
Old Bald Pilot is correct:ok: Erie, Penn. You have control.

Old Bald Pilot
9th Mar 2010, 07:14
Thanks Evansb. Here is the next challenge.

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww34/ericshipley/prune-2.jpg

Just of to bed so it will be a few hours before I can respond.

OBP

evansb
9th Mar 2010, 21:59
The Bush Ranch, Crawford, Texas ? Just a guess..

Old Bald Pilot
9th Mar 2010, 23:30
Thanks for starting the ball rolling Evansb. Not Crawford so time for some clues.
The photo was taken in the mid 1980s whilst downwind left for 01.

The photo below may also provide some clues. The farmhouse behind the Cherokee is still there and shows up well on google earth. The farmhouse would be probably referred to locally as a Quinta
The hangars on the east side housed a crop spraying company.

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww34/ericshipley/prune2.jpg

OBP

Davidsoffice
10th Mar 2010, 15:47
Prompt for clues... Is the G-regd cherry tree a curved ball? Is the airfield not in the UK?

Old Bald Pilot
10th Mar 2010, 16:01
Davidsoffice,
You are correct. Not in UK or the British Isles.

OBP

Ridge Runner
10th Mar 2010, 16:56
So, mediterranean I guess?

Mr_Grubby
10th Mar 2010, 17:09
How about Cascais, Portugal ?

Old Bald Pilot
10th Mar 2010, 18:13
Med No. Portugal yes, but not Cascais. Site of recent Portugal airshows. The Airfied serves an historic Municipality partly enclosed by medieval walls. Roman Temple, University. A place well worth a visit,

OBP

Mr_Grubby
10th Mar 2010, 19:04
Evora ?

C.

Old Bald Pilot
10th Mar 2010, 19:56
Mr_G does it again.
I could also have mentioned back then in one of the Hangars was a Britten-Norman Fieldmaster that was in hiding having been spirited away from Bembridge during another BN financial crisis. It may still be there fo all I know.

Over to you Clint.

OBP

Mr_Grubby
11th Mar 2010, 08:14
Thanks OBP.
This one should not be too taxing.

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/airport55.jpg

chevvron
11th Mar 2010, 09:24
Sao Paulo Brazil?

Mr_Grubby
11th Mar 2010, 09:52
chevvron.

No, sorry.

C.

descol
11th Mar 2010, 10:07
G'day Mr G. - would it be Caracas ?

Whispering Giant
11th Mar 2010, 10:41
Le Paz - Bolivia ?

Mr_Grubby
11th Mar 2010, 10:52
G'day gents.

Not Caracas or La Paz.

C.

Flap40
11th Mar 2010, 11:30
If there are some tyre marks in the grass at the far end left by an Iberia A340 then it is Quito.

Cubs2jets
11th Mar 2010, 12:41
La Aurora, Guatemala City.

C2j

Mr_Grubby
11th Mar 2010, 13:32
Flap40.

Yes, Mariscal Sucre Airport, Quito, Ecuador.

Over to you.:ok:

C.