Is there not a time limit after which they become their's, if they are still being used?

Yes there is. I think it was 6 consecutive season (I stand to be corrected). I don't recall LBA being one of the remedy routes though (Assuming they are to start LHR-LBA). Although, I seem to remember the Heathrow authority holding slots back for domestic routes now that we've left the E.U. I assume this is where Loganair have gained their slots for IOM.

By the letter of the remedy agreement - no, never. The slots would always be BA's and if the remedy operator ever ceased to use them for whatever reason they would revert to BA.
The rules stated that after 6 consecutive seasons the operator had the freedom to use the slots for routes other than Aberdeen and Edinburgh.
(Old) flybe allegedly attempted to legally test the ownership question, no doubt new flybe are doing the same...

There is also the question whether or not new flybe's use of the slots will be seen as a continuation of old flybe's use - in other words whether they are released from having to operate Aberdeen and Edinburgh for the 6 seasons. The fact that there are persistent rumours about other flybe Heathrow routes about to be announced might indicate that they've reached agreement at least on that element (or would like the market to believe they have)?

The CAA regulators care. I thought you were a pilot?
I understand that IMHO flybe will never make money operating LHR-BHD/LBA on their own merits in those markets. So the slot play only works if BA buy flybe? This seems remote in the extreme, and so the new flybe will be flying aircraft and crews on loss making routes for an extended period, from day one with no path to profitability, on LHR-LBA/BHD/EDI/ABZ due to there being a better offering in market (ABZ/EDI/BHD) or no market worth serving (LHR-LBA that doesn't feed long haul).

Skipness. A good example of not being able to absorb information ih the fact that you think i said i was a pilot!!!
The CAA don't care as they are clearly party to the arrangements

Please give it a rest with the unnecessary aggressive and rude comments. Everyone else is able to disagree and put their points across without it.

If the investors think they will get a return on their investment flying Q400s from Leeds to Heathrow then good luck to them. I suppose it will be the negativity on here that does them in.

The flying and paying public don’t give two hoots about perpetual negativity on here…

I think you misunderstood me. I was saying the route is so likely to be hugely loss making that when it ends or the carrier does the same cheerleaders will blame the negativity of us because we didn’t cheer for Flybe loud enough.

Is there any reference to these being the BA remedy slots?
Is it possible with the downturn in business and the increase in "use it or lose it" percentages for summer that either they are borrowing the slots from another airline in the short term or have gained the slots in their own right because other airlines have handed them back?
The first seems the more likely I would have thought.

No announcement tomorrow. Well at least not anything of significance, I’m told.

Back to Belfast
https://www.belfastcityairport.com/N...rt-Second-Base

Flybe to go on sale
 

Tickets for new Flybe routes are to go on sale next week from Tuesday 22nd March.

https://p1ainaz1aukwstore.z35.web.co...econd_Base.pdf

How strangely quiet,
Oh, i know!
everyones waiting to climb on the bandwagon and critisize the routes when they're announced next week.
can't wait
🤣

You moan if people comment and moan if people don’t. I thought for a moment you’d got the spelling right this time but looks like I thought too soon 😂

I'm not moaning when people don't comment. I'm dreading more negativity next week. As for your comment about spelling, we can't all be perfect like you

Bean, it’s early in the evening and plenty of time to keep at the G&T. As others say, you moan when people comment and moan when they don’t. It’s a poor effort to suppress debate.

I’ve seen the list of routes. I can’t see this business has any hope of success. No point trying to have a sensible debate about that here as anything said will be shouted down and derided.

Yes time the thread was shut down. By the way' i hate gin

That’s exactly it. With so much yet to happen, it absolutely isn’t time for the thread to be closed, yet it’s another attempt to stifle discussion and debate. Thanks for confirming the obvious.

I thought the leaked set of routes from Jenny a few weeks back seemed quite sensible and a good starting point.

However, routes like Leeds > Lhr, if true, are a waste of time IMO. Longer, and more of an effort then getting the train. But all I do is press buttons at the pointy end all day long so what do I know!

In pre-COVID times, the routes from SOU to various destinations in northern England and Scotland were frequently very busy, with a large number of business users, together with a fair bit of ‘friends and families’ traffic.
To travel from the south coast to the north by rail involves journey times which are much, much longer than from London. For example, day return travel by rail from London to Manchester, Leeds and even Newcastle is a realistic proposition, and rail is a very viable alternative to flying. The situation from the south coast is very different, with the extended journey times making it virtually impossible.
However, I guess we are now living in very different times and I no longer travel up and down the country for business on a regular business, and it’s very difficult to see the previous level of regional domestic air travel ever returning.