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Skipness One Foxtrot 16th Mar 2022 12:23

Back to Belfast
https://www.belfastcityairport.com/N...rt-Second-Base

NorthEasterner 16th Mar 2022 14:14

Flybe to go on sale
 
Tickets for new Flybe routes are to go on sale next week from Tuesday 22nd March.

https://p1ainaz1aukwstore.z35.web.co...econd_Base.pdf

bean 17th Mar 2022 16:38

How strangely quiet,
Oh, i know!
everyones waiting to climb on the bandwagon and critisize the routes when they're announced next week.
can't wait
🤣


BA318 17th Mar 2022 17:39


Originally Posted by bean (Post 11201459)
How strangely quiet,
Oh, i know!
everyones waiting to climb on the bandwagon and critisize the routes when they're announced next week.
can't wait
🤣

You moan if people comment and moan if people donít. I thought for a moment youíd got the spelling right this time but looks like I thought too soon 😂

bean 17th Mar 2022 18:34


Originally Posted by BA318 (Post 11201488)
You moan if people comment and moan if people donít. I thought for a moment youíd got the spelling right this time but looks like I thought too soon 😂

I'm not moaning when people don't comment. I'm dreading more negativity next week. As for your comment about spelling, we can't all be perfect like you

Albert Hall 17th Mar 2022 18:48

Bean, itís early in the evening and plenty of time to keep at the G&T. As others say, you moan when people comment and moan when they donít. Itís a poor effort to suppress debate.

Iíve seen the list of routes. I canít see this business has any hope of success. No point trying to have a sensible debate about that here as anything said will be shouted down and derided.

bean 17th Mar 2022 19:13


Originally Posted by Albert Hall (Post 11201521)
Bean, itís early in the evening and plenty of time to keep at the G&T. As others say, you moan when people comment and moan when they donít. Itís a poor effort to suppress debate.

Iíve seen the list of routes. I canít see this business has any hope of success. No point trying to have a sensible debate about that here as anything said will be shouted down and derided.

Yes time the thread was shut down. By the way' i hate gin

Albert Hall 17th Mar 2022 19:18

Thatís exactly it. With so much yet to happen, it absolutely isnít time for the thread to be closed, yet itís another attempt to stifle discussion and debate. Thanks for confirming the obvious.

cavokblues 17th Mar 2022 19:29

I thought the leaked set of routes from Jenny a few weeks back seemed quite sensible and a good starting point.

However, routes like Leeds > Lhr, if true, are a waste of time IMO. Longer, and more of an effort then getting the train. But all I do is press buttons at the pointy end all day long so what do I know!

SotonFlightpath 17th Mar 2022 23:00

In pre-COVID times, the routes from SOU to various destinations in northern England and Scotland were frequently very busy, with a large number of business users, together with a fair bit of ‘friends and families’ traffic.
To travel from the south coast to the north by rail involves journey times which are much, much longer than from London. For example, day return travel by rail from London to Manchester, Leeds and even Newcastle is a realistic proposition, and rail is a very viable alternative to flying. The situation from the south coast is very different, with the extended journey times making it virtually impossible.
However, I guess we are now living in very different times and I no longer travel up and down the country for business on a regular business, and it’s very difficult to see the previous level of regional domestic air travel ever returning.

Alteagod 18th Mar 2022 17:58

Couldn't agree with you more. It's as if no one told them about Covid.

Wallsendmag 18th Mar 2022 22:49


Originally Posted by SotonFlightpath (Post 11201651)
In pre-COVID times, the routes from SOU to various destinations in northern England and Scotland were frequently very busy, with a large number of business users, together with a fair bit of Ďfriends and familiesí traffic.
To travel from the south coast to the north by rail involves journey times which are much, much longer than from London. For example, day return travel by rail from London to Manchester, Leeds and even Newcastle is a realistic proposition, and rail is a very viable alternative to flying. The situation from the south coast is very different, with the extended journey times making it virtually impossible.
However, I guess we are now living in very different times and I no longer travel up and down the country for business on a regular business, and itís very difficult to see the previous level of regional domestic air travel ever returning.

I did a day return from Newcastle to London by train yesterday, left Newcastle at 0704 arrived Kings Cross at 0940 left at 1500 back into Newcastle at 1752. Simple easy and surprisingly busy.

AirportPlanner1 18th Mar 2022 23:16


Originally Posted by Wallsendmag (Post 11202083)
I did a day return from Newcastle to London by train yesterday, left Newcastle at 0704 arrived Kings Cross at 0940 left at 1500 back into Newcastle at 1752. Simple easy and surprisingly busy.

Isnít that the point being made though? Start in Fareham, or Winchester, and your 07:04 means leaving home at 05:00 or earlier and back at 20:00 or later?

SealinkBF 19th Mar 2022 11:24


Originally Posted by Wallsendmag (Post 11202083)
I did a day return from Newcastle to London by train yesterday, left Newcastle at 0704 arrived Kings Cross at 0940 left at 1500 back into Newcastle at 1752. Simple easy and surprisingly busy.

London trains are fine - the issue I have with trains these days is the insane fares charged by the likes of CrossCountry from my neck of the woods to Birmingham, Manchester and Newcastle.

tigertanaka 20th Mar 2022 10:13


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 11202092)
Isn’t that the point being made though? Start in Fareham, or Winchester, and your 07:04 means leaving home at 05:00 or earlier and back at 20:00 or later?

I live in the North East and recently needed to go to Portsmouth for a business meeting.

Air: £321 (day return NCL-SOU, an hour each way)

Road: £120 in fuel plus (as it is not possible to do this in a day) another £150 for a hotel and food/drinks. This also means 12 hours driving where I can’t do any work.

Rail: £246 was the cheapest option for the early morning train to Portsmouth and a fixed return coming back (can work on the train but not keen on a fixed return when it’s a work trip). I would not have had enough time in Portsmouth before travelling home so I would have had to spend another £150 on an overnight stay.

Plane was expensive but in this case, not needing an overnight stay meant that it was very much value for money.

ATNotts 20th Mar 2022 10:33


Originally Posted by SealinkBF (Post 11202301)
London trains are fine - the issue I have with trains these days is the insane fares charged by the likes of CrossCountry from my neck of the woods to Birmingham, Manchester and Newcastle.

Not to mention the time cross country trains take. Norwich to Liverpool on EMR takes so long it almost requires a sleeping car!! OK, I exaggerate a tad!

CabinCrewe 20th Mar 2022 22:22

is it Tue or Wed the launch of routes- The ones we know and more than likely some more of the predictable same?

allan1987 20th Mar 2022 22:39


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11202949)
is it Tue or Wed the launch of routes- The ones we know and more than likely some more of the predictable same?

Tue 22 launch of routes and website

Remains to be seen if BHD-LHR and LBA-LHR will be code shared with BA or VS/DL/AF




EI-BUD 20th Mar 2022 23:36

It seems incredible that Flybe would enter BHD-LHR in competition with IAG. I just doesn't add up, the only weapon they'll have is price. Though BHD is the base, BFS would surely be more niche for them offering something different. They could differentiate with a BFS route and I'm sure that airport would support that. The stats from EI being at BFS show that LHR was around 15-20K passengers per month. Might have made more sense to station an aircraft there and share a Belfast crew pool.

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SotonFlightpath 21st Mar 2022 13:45


Originally Posted by Wallsendmag (Post 11202083)
I did a day return from Newcastle to London by train yesterday, left Newcastle at 0704 arrived Kings Cross at 0940 left at 1500 back into Newcastle at 1752. Simple easy and surprisingly busy.

That's exactly the problem, it's easy to travel quickly and efficiently up and down the country to and from London, but from Southampton it's very different proposition. A journey from Kings Cross to Newcastle in two and three-quarter hours is fine. But from Southampton, it's another hour and a half to Waterloo by train, and around half an hour minimum to cross London, with all the faff of getting off at Waterloo, getting down to the tube, the tube journey etc and getting into Kings Cross. This means an equivalent Journey from Southampton to Newcastle is often around 5-6 hours - too long for a day trip. It was just an hour on Flybe when I used to fly.


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