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Old 4th Jan 2024, 17:01
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Originally Posted by tictack67
Whist the timetable shows Turkish as A320, the seat maps are all loaded as A321. Is this the assumption of a reduction in seats?

Air France are going 3 daily so 21 services a week ack it's on an E190. In fact peak summer 24, Edi to CDG/ORY/BVA will ve 45 services a week. (AF-21, Ezy-14, TV-5, FR-4)

Lufthansa going 3 daily also 21 services a week. (2 x A321 and a nightstopping A320) as well as their STR,CGN and MUC
There have been some mistakes in other reports, LCY for example had Ryanair in it, not sure if it's been fixed.
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Old 4th Jan 2024, 17:50
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I saw an article online on New Years Day stating Play were dropping Glasgow, with the last flight due to operate 2nd January. They quoted Sean M as breaking the news on Twitter, but the provided link didnt seem to go to a tweet, but just his random feed, so I assume he deleted it?

Are they still operating to Glasgow now?
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Old 4th Jan 2024, 18:00
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Originally Posted by nighthawk117
I saw an article online on New Years Day stating Play were dropping Glasgow, with the last flight due to operate 2nd January. They quoted Sean M as breaking the news on Twitter, but the provided link didnt seem to go to a tweet, but just his random feed, so I assume he deleted it?

Are they still operating to Glasgow now?
It was planned as Seasonal until end of Christmas period. Given FI loaded their schedule with 767-300’s to protect their turf, I suspect Play have been hounded out. They can maybe try their match against EZY at EDI, though hard to know if they’re after low cost point to point or US transfer which may not be needed at EDI. Can’t get feel if their basket case style op or not.

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It was planned as Seasonal until end of Christmas period. Given FI loaded their schedule with 767-300’s to protect their turf, I suspect Play have been hounded out. They can maybe try their match against EZY at EDI, though hard to know if they’re after low cost point to point or US transfer which may not be needed at EDI. Can’t get feel if their basket case style op or not.
I think they are similar to Wizz, chopping and changing all the time. Will see soon but I’m not too fussed about them tbh.
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Old 4th Jan 2024, 18:27
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I think they are similar to Wizz, chopping and changing all the time. Will see soon but I’m not too fussed about them tbh.
Have Play indentified a gap in the market? Both for point to point and transfer pax. EZY in Apr, May and three weeks in June have 3 x weekly currently on sale. They drop to 2 x weekly at end of June and in July and August before increasing again in September. Play have slots for a daily service, potentially taking advantage of peak summer travel to/from Scotland and Icelandic tourists , who have similar summer travel trends. Two big caveats of course. No guarantee Play will start and EZY could easily increase frequency to hound them out.
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Originally Posted by nighthawk117
I saw an article online on New Years Day stating Play were dropping Glasgow, with the last flight due to operate 2nd January. They quoted Sean M as breaking the news on Twitter, but the provided link didnt seem to go to a tweet, but just his random feed, so I assume he deleted it?

Are they still operating to Glasgow now?
Not according to there booking system
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Old 7th Jan 2024, 16:36
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Interview with Gordon Dewar. He mainly talks about SAF, but he also talks about potential destinations, US pre-clearance and the road link from the roundabout at Gogar.

https://archive.is/wt87W

Dewar expects Edinburgh this year to exceed its pre-Covid passenger numbers of 14.7 million in 2019.

He also highlighted the potential for more long-haul connections in the coming years.

He said North American demand continued to be strong and underpinned the airport’s ambition of becoming a pre-clearance facility for United States customs.

Dewar said airlines were “clamouring” for that, which would place Edinburgh alongside Dublin and Shannon as allowing people and goods to be cleared prior to entering the US.

He said: “We have to get the two countries to sign the agreement and there seems to be a real growing understanding of how beneficial that would be. It just needs a bit of will to get in a room and sign off the final details.”

Dewar also sees potential from Asia in the years ahead and said: “We know for a fact that economically there is room for at least three or four Chinese connections but you have to persuade people to do it.

“We have not got a foothold yet in India and that is massive. There have been no Indian carriers looking at European expansion or if they did it was towards the main hubs but that is changing.

“Then there is Kuala Lumpur and Singapore, which are a bit further away, mostly because of airline strategy rather than lack of demand.”

Dewar is also hopeful progress can be made this year on creating a road link to the airport from the Gogar area.
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Old 7th Jan 2024, 19:00
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Interview with Gordon Dewar. He mainly talks about SAF, but he also talks about potential destinations, US pre-clearance and the road link from the roundabout at Gogar.

https://archive.is/wt87W
Nice fluff piece that says nothing nor does it provide any incite into very significant and pressing structural issues facing the airport especially if further substantial expansions are to be accommodated in the coming years.

Indeed I’d suggest it’s targeted towards potential buyers and investors in the airport itself.

We do know the current owners want out before those pending and very significant costs and associated financing becomes not just pressing and manageable more rather critically necessary.

As for a nice chat over a coffee and doughnut and a quick yeah, pre clearance will be a sight more difficult and require high level inter governmental involvement. Who will pay for the US agents where would the border fit into an already cramped and barely fit for purpose terminal today.

Is it really even necessary as we move towards more electronic border measures in the UK , EU and indeed in the US in the next few years personally I think not to be honest .

I do agree with his comments re India however - Air India currently has a near fetish approach with moving Microsoft Script kiddies to Silicon Valley and via existing hubs to look after your company servers ( cheaply) in advance of other opportunities right now .

Birmingham is an exception I acknowledge that.

Other Indian carriers such as Indigo and Spicejet don’t exactly deliver confidence ( both have weak finances and even poorer management) . Indeed the later has been involved in some pretty dodgy trading practices!





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Old 7th Jan 2024, 19:33
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Ryanair S24 Changes

NEW AGA - 2 weekly
ALC - 7 weekly
BCN - 8 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rise to 10 weekly in JUNE
BRI - 2 weekly
BFS - 13 weekly
BER - 8 weekly
BZR - 2 weekly (currently set to commence in JUNE)
BLL - 3 weekly in APRIL and MAY rise to 4 weekly in JUNE
BLQ - 3 weekly
BOD - 4 weekly
BOH - 4 weekly
BTS - 2 weekly
CRL - 9 weekly in APRIL and MAY rise to 10 weekly in JUNE
OTP - 2 weekly
BUD - 6 weekly APRIL and MAY, rise to 7 weekly in JUNE
CCF - CUT
CPH - 9 weekly
CFU - 1 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
ORK - 7 weekly (originally loaded at 10 weekly)
DUB - 32 weekly
NRN - 6 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 7 weekly in JUNE
EIN - 2 weekly
FAO - 5 weekly (originally loaded at 8 weekly)
FUE - 2 weekly
GDN - 5 weekly
LPA - 2 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 3 weekly in JUNE
GOT - 2 weekly
HAM - 4 weekly (originally loaded at 5 weekly)
IBZ - 2 weekly
KUN - 2 weekly
NOC - 2 weekly (originally loaded at 3 weekly)
KRK - 5 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 6 weekly in JUNE (originaly loaded at 6/5)
ACE - 4 weekly
LIS - 3 weekly
STN - 21 weekly (originally loaded at 17 weekly)
MAD - 5 weekly
AGP - 6 weekly
MLA - 2 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 3 weekly in JUNE
RAK - 2 weekly
MRS - 4 weekly
BGY - 6 weekly
NTE - 2 weekly
NAP - 3 weekly
NQY - 2 weekly
FNI - CUT
PMO - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
PMI - 8 weekly
BVA - 4 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 5 weekly in JUNE
PSA - 4 weekly
PIS - 2 weekly
OPO - 3 weekly
POZ - 2 weekly (originally loaded at 3 weekly)
PRG - 5 weekly
RHO - 2 weekly
RIX - 4 weekly
CIA - 7 weekly
SDR - 2 weekly
SCQ -CUT
SVQ - 3 weekly
SNN - 2 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 3 weekly in JUNE
SOF - 3 weekly
TFS - 5 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 6 weekly in JUNE
TIA - 2 weekly (originally loaded at 3 weekly)
TLS - 2 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 3 weekly in JUNE
TRN - CUT
VLC - 2 weekly
VCE - 3 weekly
VIE - 3 weekly
WMI - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED (they hold slots for EDI-WAW this winter so may transfer)
WRO - 2 weekly
ZAD - 2 weekly


Summary of Changes

AGA new at 2x week
ORK and FAO reduced by 3 weekly
HAM, NOC, KRK, POZ, TIA reduced by 1 weekly (It is possible that based a/c at EDI will operate Warsaw rather than BUZZ), WMI was 5 weekly, this clears 5 separate days to operate a Warsaw flight to either WAW or WMI
STN up by 4 weekly
BGY will remain at 6 weekly rather than increase to 7 weekly.
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Old 8th Jan 2024, 10:55
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Airport Sale

An updated article from simply flying. We already know about the owners intention to sell. Some interesting information however. Specific reference made about American Airlines returning. Have AA changed their mind or is aircraft now going to be available to operate, presumably from PHL? This could of course be a mistake on the part of the author or they have been tipped off about an iminent announcement.

https://simpleflying.com/why-edinbur...rth-3-billion/
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Old 8th Jan 2024, 14:51
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Runway closed again

Another pothole today. Runway closed for a short time with 2 diversions to Glasgow.
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Old 8th Jan 2024, 15:08
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It's an interesting overview of what is happening in terms of new routes. Maybe reading too much in to it, but it seems to kill off the idea of Singapore announcing flights next year. It suggests the demand is there, but the airline isnt really looking at places like Edinburgh.

No mention of Emirates - again maybe over reading here, but does that suggest an announcement is imminent? If not surely he would have mentioned attempts to re-attract them or otherwise increase capacity to the Middle East. Surely that and North America are the key areas of growth for long haul?
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
Airport Sale

An updated article from simply flying. We already know about the owners intention to sell. Some interesting information however. Specific reference made about American Airlines returning. Have AA changed their mind or is aircraft now going to be available to operate, presumably from PHL? This could of course be a mistake on the part of the author or they have been tipped off about an iminent announcement.

https://simpleflying.com/why-edinbur...rth-3-billion/
Might be wrong however I think the reporter has misinterpreted the interviewees comments and American Airlines just referred to the generality (ie Delta, United ) rather than American Airlines Group Inc….
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Old 8th Jan 2024, 18:49
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Might be wrong however I think the reporter has misinterpreted the interviewees comments and American Airlines just referred to the generality (ie Delta, United ) rather than American Airlines Group Inc….
I’m also sceptical about the comments. That said, I believe I’m correct to say that AA’s suspension of services to Tel Aviv has been further extended. They are offering services to TLV via LHR with BA. This could free up wide-body aircraft from DFW, JFK and MIA. From a PR point of view alone, it would be great to have the world’s largest airline by fleet size back at EDI.
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Old 8th Jan 2024, 19:29
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I’m also sceptical about the comments. That said, I believe I’m correct to say that AA’s suspension of services to Tel Aviv has been further extended. They are offering services to TLV via LHR with BA. This could free up wide-body aircraft from DFW, JFK and MIA. From a PR point of view alone, it would be great to have the world’s largest airline by fleet size back at EDI.
BA aren’t flying into Tel Aviv either right now . In fact the only European carrier to officially announce an intention to resume is Lufthansa

Aside and not really relevant to UK news , something you might find interesting re Tel Aviv is Flydubai, Etihad and Wizz Abu Dhabi continue to operate, whilst all the European and US carriers have suspended operations.

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Originally Posted by Rutan16
BA aren’t flying into Tel Aviv either right now . In fact the only European carrier to officially announce an intention to resume is Lufthansa

Aside and not really relevant to UK news , something you might find interesting re Tel Aviv is Flydubai, Etihad and Wizz Abu Dhabi continue to operate, whilst all the European and US carriers have suspended operations.
BA planning to resume services to TLV - 2 Feb. Flights currently on sale. Of course, this could change at short notice. With Israeli's free to travel, presumably, some demand still exists. Cargo returns will also be lucrative for the airlines you referenced.
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I’m also sceptical about the comments. That said, I believe I’m correct to say that AA’s suspension of services to Tel Aviv has been further extended. They are offering services to TLV via LHR with BA. This could free up wide-body aircraft from DFW, JFK and MIA. From a PR point of view alone, it would be great to have the world’s largest airline by fleet size back at EDI.
AA more likely to use A/C on more lucrative multiple domestic rotations until TLV restarts than send a piece of metal to EDI ..
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more lucrative multiple domestic rotations
What are the figures on profits for both?

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Heard a rumour of a June start for EK & AA, I say rumour as I don’t want to sound silly if it’s not true. But a friend who is quite reliable within the handling agent has advised me.

Would be good if it does come to fruition but I’d have thought they’d be on sale by now if that was the case.
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Old 10th Jan 2024, 09:29
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How much more capacity does the terminal have to accommodate extra widebodies? It's absolutely rammed in the summer - especially morning to early afternoon which is presumably when AA would arrive and leave. EK would be easier if they took an evening slot I suppose.
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