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Recruitment drive at Edinburgh announced.
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...and/?market=en
Recruitment drive at Edinburgh announced.
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...and/?market=en
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Ryanair may be recruiting for a variety of reasons, expansion and replacement of employees that have moved on being just two.
It's the constant unfettered expansion, or expectation of expansion on the North Atlantic routes I was thinking about.
It's the constant unfettered expansion, or expectation of expansion on the North Atlantic routes I was thinking about.
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With threads and threads such as Monarch Airlines, Lydd Airport, Carlisle Airport, Global airlines and Dundee getting an extra LHR a week from 2024
We have the Edinburgh thread, despite physical evidential growth (LH night stopping A321, Turkish with several A330 rotations and Qatar coming with twice daily A350 on winter as well as Air Canada daily in Winter) it's full of Cassandras (see Greek mythology). so funny
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While I appreciate the intellectual turn this thread has taken, are you sure you meant Cassandras? The thing about Cassandra was that her prophecies of doom came true which I assume is not what you are suggesting.
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Got to love the dichotomy that is Pprune.
With threads and threads such as Monarch Airlines, Lydd Airport, Carlisle Airport, Global airlines and Dundee getting an extra LHR a week from 2024
We have the Edinburgh thread, despite physical evidential growth (LH night stopping A321, Turkish with several A330 rotations and Qatar coming with twice daily A350 on winter as well as Air Canada daily in Winter) it's full of Cassandras (see Greek mythology). so funny
With threads and threads such as Monarch Airlines, Lydd Airport, Carlisle Airport, Global airlines and Dundee getting an extra LHR a week from 2024
We have the Edinburgh thread, despite physical evidential growth (LH night stopping A321, Turkish with several A330 rotations and Qatar coming with twice daily A350 on winter as well as Air Canada daily in Winter) it's full of Cassandras (see Greek mythology). so funny
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Sorry, a little late to the scene.. but to return to the previous conversation:
It's not about opening up new destinations, but rather about differing products. A lot of passengers will always favour a particular airline, or failing that, alliance. Currently the only option to get to Scotland with Oneworld is to connect through Heathrow or Dublin. As a result, there are a lot of oneworld members who either decide not to travel to scotland, or do so via LHR/DUB. Likewise for Edinburgh based passengers that fly to the US - they route via LHR or Dublin.
American entering the market doesnt open up new destinations, but instead provides another option for Oneworld members. To an extent it also makes Philadelphia more attractve for those wishing to travel to/from there, but the vast majority of passengers will be connecting.
It also provides extra competition, and will help drive down prices, offering more low fare options in advance, and offering more last minute opportunities, which might reduce the cost of overall fares charged elsewhere.
In terms of funding - governments offer all sorts of funds to all businesses. RIght now most councils will offer funding towards web development and other technologies. SImilarly, most governments offer funds through their tourism organisations to any business that increases tourism to the area. these are often arranged in terms of marketing support. Some councils will also offer fundings to airlines in terms of landing fee support. These have been around for a long time, and fall outside of the various schemes initiated by the national government.
As a result a new route to Scotland may sometimes in the past have received funding from 3 different places, with various offers of support available.
Currently the national government isnt offering a route development fund, so that's out, but various other forms of funding will still be available to any new entry to the market through VisitScotland and Edinburgh Council.
American entering the market doesnt open up new destinations, but instead provides another option for Oneworld members. To an extent it also makes Philadelphia more attractve for those wishing to travel to/from there, but the vast majority of passengers will be connecting.
It also provides extra competition, and will help drive down prices, offering more low fare options in advance, and offering more last minute opportunities, which might reduce the cost of overall fares charged elsewhere.
In terms of funding - governments offer all sorts of funds to all businesses. RIght now most councils will offer funding towards web development and other technologies. SImilarly, most governments offer funds through their tourism organisations to any business that increases tourism to the area. these are often arranged in terms of marketing support. Some councils will also offer fundings to airlines in terms of landing fee support. These have been around for a long time, and fall outside of the various schemes initiated by the national government.
As a result a new route to Scotland may sometimes in the past have received funding from 3 different places, with various offers of support available.
Currently the national government isnt offering a route development fund, so that's out, but various other forms of funding will still be available to any new entry to the market through VisitScotland and Edinburgh Council.
The only competitive way for Air Canada and United to be in the Scottish market is on their own metal as they no longer have BMI to codesharw with, backtracking from FRA/MUC on STAR partner LH is a competitive disadvantage, Delta less so with KLM via AMS. American's JV with BA out of LHR means they have 28 of their own flights to fill with BA out of Scotland helping that. American joining the party depends on the wider impact on those numbers I think.
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I'm not sure many people would consider EDI/GLA<>US as two separate markets, I would think of it more as mainly one Central Scotland<>US market. Viewed that way, I'm not sure Glasgow's US bubble burst as such, but rather much of its share of the Central Scotland<>US market has moved to Edinburgh. As I noted in this post, EDI/GLA<>US passenger numbers during the period January - June 2023 are 12% down on the same period in 2019. So if there is a bubble, there might be scope for it to inflate further before it bursts.
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Sorry, a little late to the scene.. but to return to the previous conversation:
It's not about opening up new destinations, but rather about differing products. A lot of passengers will always favour a particular airline, or failing that, alliance. Currently the only option to get to Scotland with Oneworld is to connect through Heathrow or Dublin. As a result, there are a lot of oneworld members who either decide not to travel to scotland, or do so via LHR/DUB. Likewise for Edinburgh based passengers that fly to the US - they route via LHR or Dublin.
American entering the market doesnt open up new destinations, but instead provides another option for Oneworld members. To an extent it also makes Philadelphia more attractve for those wishing to travel to/from there, but the vast majority of passengers will be connecting.
It also provides extra competition, and will help drive down prices, offering more low fare options in advance, and offering more last minute opportunities, which might reduce the cost of overall fares charged elsewhere.
In terms of funding - governments offer all sorts of funds to all businesses. RIght now most councils will offer funding towards web development and other technologies. SImilarly, most governments offer funds through their tourism organisations to any business that increases tourism to the area. these are often arranged in terms of marketing support. Some councils will also offer fundings to airlines in terms of landing fee support. These have been around for a long time, and fall outside of the various schemes initiated by the national government.
As a result a new route to Scotland may sometimes in the past have received funding from 3 different places, with various offers of support available.
Currently the national government isnt offering a route development fund, so that's out, but various other forms of funding will still be available to any new entry to the market through VisitScotland and Edinburgh Council.
It's not about opening up new destinations, but rather about differing products. A lot of passengers will always favour a particular airline, or failing that, alliance. Currently the only option to get to Scotland with Oneworld is to connect through Heathrow or Dublin. As a result, there are a lot of oneworld members who either decide not to travel to scotland, or do so via LHR/DUB. Likewise for Edinburgh based passengers that fly to the US - they route via LHR or Dublin.
American entering the market doesnt open up new destinations, but instead provides another option for Oneworld members. To an extent it also makes Philadelphia more attractve for those wishing to travel to/from there, but the vast majority of passengers will be connecting.
It also provides extra competition, and will help drive down prices, offering more low fare options in advance, and offering more last minute opportunities, which might reduce the cost of overall fares charged elsewhere.
In terms of funding - governments offer all sorts of funds to all businesses. RIght now most councils will offer funding towards web development and other technologies. SImilarly, most governments offer funds through their tourism organisations to any business that increases tourism to the area. these are often arranged in terms of marketing support. Some councils will also offer fundings to airlines in terms of landing fee support. These have been around for a long time, and fall outside of the various schemes initiated by the national government.
As a result a new route to Scotland may sometimes in the past have received funding from 3 different places, with various offers of support available.
Currently the national government isnt offering a route development fund, so that's out, but various other forms of funding will still be available to any new entry to the market through VisitScotland and Edinburgh Council.
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Really bad fuelling delays this afternoon, a combination of mechanical issues with some of the tankers and tankers being empty after all the widebody aircrafts. Had a major knock on effect for stand allocations as nothing was getting fuelled on time to be able to depart to free up a stand.
I note in 2023 that they put hydrant refuelling into PIK back in 1964, some 59 years ago. That was the future once. I think it's knackered now after 30 years of not being used.
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You may well be right. However, as of March 2021 Transport Scotland were (perhaps they still are) looking at Dallas as an 'aspirational' route (source) so they at least didn't think it was a "complete pipe dream" then (maybe they've since found out that it is). I'm not saying it's likely, but you'll note that two of the other 'aspirational' destinations on that list (Atlanta and Beijing) have been secured (albeit both had operated before).
I'm not sure many people would consider EDI/GLA<>US as two separate markets, I would think of it more as mainly one Central Scotland<>US market. Viewed that way, I'm not sure Glasgow's US bubble burst as such, but rather much of its share of the Central Scotland<>US market has moved to Edinburgh. As I noted in this post, EDI/GLA<>US passenger numbers during the period January - June 2023 are 12% down on the same period in 2019. So if there is a bubble, there might be scope for it to inflate further before it bursts.
I'm not sure many people would consider EDI/GLA<>US as two separate markets, I would think of it more as mainly one Central Scotland<>US market. Viewed that way, I'm not sure Glasgow's US bubble burst as such, but rather much of its share of the Central Scotland<>US market has moved to Edinburgh. As I noted in this post, EDI/GLA<>US passenger numbers during the period January - June 2023 are 12% down on the same period in 2019. So if there is a bubble, there might be scope for it to inflate further before it bursts.
Manchester gets Houston via SQ which looks to be doing pretty well, going back to 5 weekly in 2024 although it is still a tag on.
UK > Texas seems to do quite well
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The IT problems is starting to cause havoc. Lengthy departure delays of 7+ hours for many flights. BA’s 16:25 service to LHR is currently delayed to 03:25 tomorrow morning! I wonder if spoons will stay open later today? 😂
The IT problems is starting to cause havoc. Lengthy departure delays of 7+ hours for many flights. BA’s 16:25 service to LHR is currently delayed to 03:25 tomorrow morning! I wonder if spoons will stay open later today? 😂