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Old 5th Dec 2022, 14:24
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Great news. 3x per week is ambitious but WS have the data from operating this summer to support their decision. I wish them well and might even give the route a try next year.
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Old 5th Dec 2022, 18:01
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EDI-YYZ will be dropped. Most S23 dates removed from website. Good news for AC.
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Old 5th Dec 2022, 18:06
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Mystified by this. Seems to be driven by the fact that they are taking the B787 and so have to try and fill them somehow but are basing them all in YYC with none in YYZ. GLA/EDI-YYZ is a reliable known quantity that they're able to crew from the existing YYZ B737 base, YYC hasn't been served since AIr Transat flew it from GLA a while back.
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Old 5th Dec 2022, 18:10
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EDI-YYZ will be dropped. Most S23 dates removed from website. Good news for AC.
What a shame to have gone from 3 WJ routes to Scotland (2x YYZ and 1x YHZ) to now 3/wk YYC only. Lets hope this new hub idea works for them! AC donít really seem to be putting up much of a fight even in London.
Interesting that they stopped any further 787 new deliveries
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Old 5th Dec 2022, 19:47
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What a shame to have gone from 3 WJ routes to Scotland (2x YYZ and 1x YHZ) to now 3/wk YYC only. Lets hope this new hub idea works for them! AC donít really seem to be putting up much of a fight even in London.
Interesting that they stopped any further 787 new deliveries
Air Canada increasing to daily from Edinburgh S23.
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Old 5th Dec 2022, 21:12
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Who is next for EDI after todayís announcement?

EK?
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Old 5th Dec 2022, 21:24
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Originally Posted by A350Saltire View Post
Who is next for EDI after todayís announcement?

EK?
Perhaps. I wonder if EK is waiting to see if QR go double daily in 2023 before stepping in again? The current slots suggest they could do. It wouldnít be a huge surprise given the Doha route continues to perform very strongly with LFís in the high 90ís.
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Old 6th Dec 2022, 07:11
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Perhaps. I wonder if EK is waiting to see if QR go double daily in 2023 before stepping in again? The current slots suggest they could do. It wouldnít be a huge surprise given the Doha route continues to perform very strongly with LFís in the high 90ís.
Anecdotal: ď(EK) have shortage of cabin crew and so the return of A380 or second daily at Glasgow or return to Edinburgh is still being worked on.Ē

Itís a waiting game, however I would have thought that if S23 was going to happen then it would have been launched by now. Just my opinion.
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Old 6th Dec 2022, 16:44
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam View Post
Anecdotal: ď(EK) have shortage of cabin crew and so the return of A380 or second daily at Glasgow or return to Edinburgh is still being worked on.Ē

Itís a waiting game, however I would have thought that if S23 was going to happen then it would have been launched by now. Just my opinion.
Without doubt only rumour, but a few people on different forums posting that EK may be about to leave GLA and operate only out of EDI. Is their any substance to this rumour/speculation?
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Old 6th Dec 2022, 16:48
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Can EDI handle the A380? (I know GLA currently 777 but presumably A380 to return to Scotland in due course).
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Originally Posted by willy wombat View Post
Can EDI handle the A380? (I know GLA currently 777 but presumably A380 to return to Scotland in due course).
An A380 unable to land or take off at EDI. Runway too short. The taxi ways would also have to be upgraded significantly. EDI do have gates and bridges that can accommodate an A380.
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Old 6th Dec 2022, 17:41
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Originally Posted by Planeraz View Post
Without doubt only rumour, but a few people on different forums posting that EK may be about to leave GLA and operate only out of EDI. Is their any substance to this rumour/speculation?
Can you post a link to these posts please?
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Old 6th Dec 2022, 17:56
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Can you post a link to these posts please?
wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:31 pm

So EK have a choice. Either be at a competitive disadvantage from Scotland where they have less capacity than QR for 6 months or double up the GLA flights.Or bin GLA and move it all to EDI. And before anyone says anything, Iím aware they have a lounge. Wonít stop them moving though I bet.
See, telt you you donít think thereís a market worth serving from GLA. The market that AGS appear to be very willingly let disappear 45 miles east.
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Old 6th Dec 2022, 18:30
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How come Emirates dropped EDI in the first place?
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How come Emirates dropped EDI in the first place?
Hadnít built up any momentum when covid struck. Not enough demand for all the far east and Oz lockdown countries.
Qatar fares are/were significantly cheaper.
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Old 6th Dec 2022, 20:58
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Why would Emirates then risk their inertia? Why would they go head to head with a carrier offering a better product at a lower price point?

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For some reason a lot of people want to visit Dubai. There are still more pax on EK from Glasgow than Qatar from Edinburgh
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Sounds like a good reason to stay at GLA!
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Old 7th Dec 2022, 02:03
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Either be at a competitive disadvantage from Scotland where they have less capacity than QR for 6 months or double up the GLA flights.Or bin GLA and move it all to EDI. And before anyone says anything, I’m aware they have a lounge. Won’t stop them moving though I bet.
Having less capacity doesn't automatically mean disadvantaged. This is sheer "my airpor's better than yours". GLA is on the floor but as travel bounces
back, EDI may well remain Scotland's No. 1 airport but the notion that GLA would or should have nothing long haul is nonsense. It may be 2nd choice for inbound but no market likes a monopoly, and as and when EDI gets to the bursting at the seams point, people will look for other options. EDI is doing really well but I suspect WS swapping YYZ for YYC simply because they need to fly B787s they didn't cancel won't end well.

It's a finite market and we've been here before. Not every entrant is net new and as they battle for limited market share, expect something to give in the medium term.
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Old 7th Dec 2022, 07:43
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I've always though the GLA is an "outbound" airport and EDI is an "inbound" one

Emirates operate from Birmingham and Newcastle - neither of which is overrun by people from the Gulf (tho they do fly their business jets into NCL in the shooting season) - it's all outbound sourced traffic

Their business is tourists to Dubai - much as SIA was in the early days
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