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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 06:26
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The A359 is reported to be coming back to EDI. 14 x weekly maintained as previously announced. Good news.

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230802-qrnw23
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 09:00
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
Nobody with any sense goes to Florida between July and mid November.

Fortunately for Florida Tourism, the UK tour operators and airlines there are plenty of Brits with no sense!
Same with Malta, Crete and anywhere else in the Med in June- August - you have to go when th kids are out of school. Older, wiser folk have the benefit of flexibility
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 09:06
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
Virgin at EDI wonít like that then- though we are assured by commentators its rammed to the gunnels on a leisure config A351.
Often a route that weathers most storms mind you, so not sure Iíd be rearranging any schedules around that. Think BA are now double daily MCO at LGW.

The Virgin A350-1000 is in 3 class config including upper class
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 11:14
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Qatar from LAX diverted to EDI short time ago. Declared a full emergency according to reports. Medical emergency?


https://fs.qatarairways.com/flightst...2F2023&lang=EN

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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 12:03
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Originally Posted by tictack67
The Virgin A350-1000 is in 3 class config including upper class
EDI-MCO is operated by the leisure fleet with only 16 Upper Class seats, there are two subfleets.
C44W56Y235 = 335
C16W56Y325 = 397

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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 12:41
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
EDI-MCO is operated by the leisure fleet with only 16 Upper Class seats, there are two subfleets.
C44W56Y235 = 335
C16W46Y325 = 397
The fact remains that Virgin full offering is available (upper, premium and economy) and not just an all economy config
The figures are actually 56 Premium economy on both versions.

one could argue a 16 Upperclass cabin is a better experience than a 44 upperclass cabin.


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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 12:52
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It's not a slight, it's not about good or bad. It's that the Disney route and Lagos for example, need a load of Y seats, even W is premium Leisure. There's not much business demand on EDI-MCO, and that's as you'd expect.
Virgin have always offered Upper Class from Scotland, but as with the B744s, they have subfleets with higher % Y.
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 14:03
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1980ís charter 757s would be the last carriers I could think of that operated short lived Ďall economy configí to Florida. But not exactly relevant.
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Is that the 350-1000 now continuing to Doha?
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Originally Posted by inOban
Is that the 350-1000 now continuing to Doha?
Arrived : 10.24 and Departed 12:07. Relatively short time on the ground. No official reason provided as yet although probable medical emergency or removal of an unruly pax! Unsure if refuelling would have been required?

The captain must have after burners on full pelt and helped by a strong tail wind. Already flying over Romania according to flight radar.
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 14:51
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Good to see the management team prioritising the most important issues facing the airport.

Edinburgh Airport expands passenger food and drink offering

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...rink-offering/

A Scottish airport has said it is to increase its passenger food and drink offering.

Edinburgh Airport is expanding its food and beverage outlets for passengers as it "looks to welcome new and exciting brands to the terminal".

The airport is Scotland’s busiest, with more than 14 million passengers expected to pass through this year.

It said six new spaces are available to provide additional options for the airport’s growing passenger base.

The airport also said it is "keen to hear from a diverse range of brands, including local Scottish brands and globally recognised brands, to cater to its diverse passenger mix".

Six opportunities are being released to the market across four categories: "Casual dining, premium bar, fast casual and 'grab and go', with all units expected to be operating and serving passengers by December 2024".


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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 15:41
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
The wider context that it's only once daily (down from 3/4) and they dropped LGW-ABZ/EDI/NCL/JER and INV in the last few years. Every other LGW short haul route is going to be operated by BA EUROFLYER, this is a single BA mainline LGW service on a W rotation from LHR, so yeah, "demand" isn't quite the zinger you thought.
Not sure what "zinger" means but yes, the demand must be there or they'd pull it.
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 16:39
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Originally Posted by Breathe
Good to see the management team prioritising the most important issues facing the airport.

Edinburgh Airport expands passenger food and drink offering

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...rink-offering/
Every department has its role and objectives to meet and EDI would not be a success with out them.

Will be interesting to see where these new offerings are squeezed in, I suspect some will be landslide. dec 24 timeline so not anytime soon.

Another pot shot at EDI in the Hearld article linked within the same story about customer service- although obviously the airports with less/least passengers scored higher- but it would not do EDI any harm to deal dive into the scores to identify and prioritise areas for improvement.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...inverness-top/


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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 17:06
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The whole place is operating way beyond its design capacity and the customer experience through check-in and security is probably amongst the worst of any UK airport. Based on a recent trip, I'd prefer to fly through Manchester T3 than Edinburgh at the moment and that's really saying something. The temporary reconfig to sandwich in more and more check-in desks simply doesn't work. It's bedlam and an airport trying to operate way beyond its means.
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 17:12
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If you go back through this and the previous EDI threads you will find many comments from me on the problems of EDI from a pax perspective. If it was properly coordinated (which includes terminal capacity, not just runway capacity) at least some of the problems could be reduced.
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 17:30
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Couldn't agree more, but slap on your tin hat for incoming abuse as the Edinburgh luvvies hate anyone putting their airport down!
My heart sinks when I see a EDI itinerary mentioned in my work travels, it is easily one of the UK's worst airports for a positive customer experience.
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 22:39
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Today was probably one of the worst days in a while, the Airport just felt at breaking point due to the lack of stands for all the traffic.

Granted a QR diverted in with a medical emergency and one Delta 767 went tech and cancelled, another went 5 hours late and I believed returned to stand. Itís maybe unlucky but it highlights the fact more the Airport cannot cope. The passenger experience is probably the worst itís ever been, staff morale is on its knees, Iíd never recommend anyone flying from here at the minute and Iím a big fan of EDI so donít wish to sound negative.
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Old 3rd Aug 2023, 02:08
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Originally Posted by NotanAVGeek
Today was probably one of the worst days in a while, the Airport just felt at breaking point due to the lack of stands for all the traffic.

Granted a QR diverted in with a medical emergency and one Delta 767 went tech and cancelled, another went 5 hours late and I believed returned to stand. It’s maybe unlucky but it highlights the fact more the Airport cannot cope. The passenger experience is probably the worst it’s ever been, staff morale is on its knees, I’d never recommend anyone flying from here at the minute and I’m a big fan of EDI so don’t wish to sound negative.
Depends if you class last Saturday as a while ago... there wasn't any monumental delays for stands today like there was then, unless I am mistaken. It's just as well UA chucked in one of their regular cancellations today though, otherwise things certainly would've been worse, and I'm not sure how the QR diversion could have been accommodated.

It is quite clear that there is not enough stand capacity when IROPs occur and things are off schedule, which unfortunately for the airport is basically every day this summer, as the airlines are having a nightmare as well, and it is making the place look even more stretched than it already is. If they want to keep growth going then work needs to start asap to allow it to.
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Biggest problem is theyíve now built an airport on broken foundations (not literally)

Check-in is an absolute mess the second it gets near busy. Jet2 check in is too cramp and the whole area is very poorly signposted.

Ryanair check-in and international arrivals 1 being next to each other means people waiting for arrivals canít do so in a way that allow allows the clear passage of other arrivals into a very poorly signposted area for tourists.

Security has 6 (I might be wrong) lanes whereas Glasgow has something like 13. The lack of scanners is not helped by the lack of area to queue passengers, and is also not helped by passengers being inefficient with trays and protocols.

The gate area is like itís made out of lego, start with a box and then build little bits onto it. Gate 17 is particularly awful as itís in the middle of a narrow corridor that both departures and domestic arrivals use.

International arrivals 2 is genuinely one of the worst layouts of any UK airport, why make me walk up 5 flights of stairs to walk back downstairs, as most gates only have 1 lift good luck for those who struggle with stairs. Then having passengers flow into the hall from two directions creates unnecessary path crossings and inefficiencies.

Overall itís far too small for the passengers itís handling and realistically spending money on vanity projects like US Pre-Clearance isnít going to fix it.

it also faces a risk that is unique to them, itís grown rapidly in an area with multiple alternatives. Draw a circle with a journey time of 2 hours from EDI and you get 3 other international airports, all of which have them beat in infrastructure.

Itís not beyond fixing, it just needs to fix what it has before continuing to grow.
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Old 3rd Aug 2023, 09:44
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Who on Gods earth thinks that EDI needs more shops and eateries as a priority?
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