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Old 2nd Jul 2023, 11:40
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
Will not have any impact on the runway declared distances, but, if the selected ones are the worst Type A Chart penetrating obstacles then their removal could further improve the increased take-off weights brought about by provision of the runway extension, ie more passengers or range. It would then be the proverbial icing on the cake.
It has been reported that the airport has had some rejections by Southampton council regarding Marhill Copse on trees that need lopping ,however its not clear if some trees have been granted to have limited work done?
Lets hope that any granted work allows for better take off weights!
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Old 2nd Jul 2023, 12:18
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It has been reported that the airport has had some rejections by Southampton council regarding Marhill Copse on trees that need lopping ,however its not clear if some trees have been granted to have limited work done?
Lets hope that any granted work allows for better take off weights!
Don’t believe these latest approvals and rejections have a material effect on overflying. This was only minimal removal of overhanging branches to adjacent properties
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Old 2nd Jul 2023, 14:29
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The airports investment has already demonstrated an immediate effect as EZY has committed to 2 domestic routes, something that would never have happened pre-extension and remembering they entered SOU way back in 2017 (albeit EZS) with just one route. There is more to come!
So do these routes require a runway extension when Geneva doesn’t? I doubt it
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Old 2nd Jul 2023, 14:32
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So do these routes require a runway extension when Geneva doesn’t? I doubt it
Begs the question then why has it taken 6 years to add them, extension almost complete and routes are added, coincidence?
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Old 2nd Jul 2023, 17:09
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Begs the question then why has it taken 6 years to add them, extension almost complete and routes are added, coincidence?
Probably nothing to do with the extension. Winter 22/23 Ezy did some odd domestic routes as they had aircraft spare with less flying to Europe in the winter. It will be the same next winter. Don't hold your breath for the routes to operate next summer.
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Old 2nd Jul 2023, 17:10
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Depends if it's a precursor to a larger announcement to determine if it is coincidental or not. Technically, these flights could have operated from the old runway.
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https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/236...arlhill-copse/

Southampton Airport loses bid to work on trees at Marlhill Copse


Seven trees at Marlhill Copse - owned by Southampton Airport - have been protected by Southampton City Council.

Late last year a planning inspector dismissed an appeal lodged by the airport after an application to fell 91 trees was rejected by the city council.
The fact that they wanted to fell 91 trees but can’t would suggest it will affect take off limits. If not why plan to do it? Now with preservation orders served this must be the icing on the cake for SOU

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Old 5th Jul 2023, 17:50
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New standards being set on the Eastern Orly service inbound to SOU today - a mere ten hours late.
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 17:54
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
New standards being set on the Eastern Orly service inbound to SOU today - a mere ten hours late.
Constant delays and loads struggling to hit double figures, won’t last!
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 18:00
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
New standards being set on the Eastern Orly service inbound to SOU today - a mere ten hours late.
This is completely unacceptable,this service is letting the airport down big time!
Theres got be a an airline that can operate a substainable service other then Eastern!
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 18:02
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This is completely unacceptable,this service is letting the airport down big time!
Theres got be a an airline that can operate a substainable service other then Eastern!
when were eastern ever considered an airline lol
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 18:18
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Theres got be a an airline that can operate a substainable service other then Eastern!
Such as? Ever wonder why it's Eastern operating the service and not somebody else?
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 18:38
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Eastern

I note the 9:55 Paris flight has just arrived at 19:34. Only a 10 hour delay. Truly woeful airline. It’s not like they have a lot of routes to fly either.
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 18:49
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
I did say "may", maybe I should have said "mañana" instead of "next week"?

It is coming - inshallah!

Totally agree on the updates thus far. After all the hype over the successful result of the protracted planning consent process and the production of the app, a totally underwhelming update process.
Some updates on the app, asphalt now going down. It appears that the project may be on, or even ahead, of schedule. My money still on the extension, and the improved declared distances being available for use by early September.

That all said, not the exciting additions to the app that I had come to understand may appear. Time will tell.
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 19:01
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Any views on Marhill copse tree latest work?
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 19:12
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Originally Posted by RW20
Any views on Marhill copse tree latest work?
As mentioned previous, this application was for routine tree works to adjacent properties and branch reduction, nothing more. Would imagine the main fight is still to be fought by the airport
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 19:23
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The daily echo says "Southampton Airport loses bid to work on trees at Copse" on Sunday,seems that airport needs to get this sorted out inline with the runway works.
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 20:57
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Last year Southampton Airport lost at appeal their plans to fell 97 frees. Now seven trees have been protected by Southampton City Council with tree preservation orders. You would think this would have been sorted out before work started on the extension, as it is looking like those trees are going to reduce take off performance.
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Old 6th Jul 2023, 10:30
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Originally Posted by RW20
It has been reported that the airport has had some rejections by Southampton council regarding Marhill Copse on trees that need lopping ,however its not clear if some trees have been granted to have limited work done?
Lets hope that any granted work allows for better take off weights!
In line with what I have previously posted the runway extension project and Marhill Copse trees are two completely separate issues. Hopefully when preparing a business case for the extension, and any related discussions with prospective operators, AGS considered, and discussed, the extended declared distances resulting from the extension as a standalone issue.

As previously mentioned, if any meaningful reduction of tree height in Marhill Copse is eventually possible this may further improve take-off performance, to use my term it would then be the icing on the cake - not the cake itself!



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Old 6th Jul 2023, 13:18
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Trees --- as in, not cut down....

Not the best news I agree TCAS_FAN, for any Flight Planning prospectus for the future Ops of SOU, with, or even without the new extra runway length.
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