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Old 3rd May 2024, 16:24
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Beat me to it. The start of a school holiday was certainly an interesting choice. And as others have put, the first 49 passengers that would fill a Loganair plane would have bought their tickets at no more than £50 with Easy.

Out of interest, Iíve just checked Loganair to EDI for the same dates and itís circa £430. So £200 more than Easy! And you go on a bigger plane with Easy.

Also did a quick search for train tickets for the same dates, that will be £219. Just the 5 changes to make and 13.5 hour trip. £237 (just £18 more) on Easy isnít looking too bad is it?

Yeah, think SOU are going to be ok with Easy.
Two changes and about 6 hours. Change at Waterloo to Northern line and then Euston to Glasgow
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Old 3rd May 2024, 23:17
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Originally Posted by inOban
Two changes and about 6 hours. Change at Waterloo to Northern line and then Euston to Glasgow
That is by far the quickest way of getting from Southampton to Glasgow by train.

The same applies by travelling from Southampton to Manchester via London Euston.

Quick, fast, and easy with a good schedule. It's a lot quicker than a lengthy cross-country railway journey.

The London underground might not be for everyone but there's always the option of getting a taxi between London Euston and London Waterloo..
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Old 4th May 2024, 08:07
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depends on how much baggage you have - via London is a pain if you're loaded up with heavy baggage

Cross Country has its advantages (not many I'd agree)
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Old 4th May 2024, 12:58
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
That is by far the quickest way of getting from Southampton to Glasgow by train.

The same applies by travelling from Southampton to Manchester via London Euston.

Quick, fast, and easy with a good schedule. It's a lot quicker than a lengthy cross-country railway journey.

The London underground might not be for everyone but there's always the option of getting a taxi between London Euston and London Waterloo..
But even as a lifelong rail enthusiast, I have to say unless the journey by rail is being made partly for the pleasure of being on a train, any journey from the Southampton area to points north of Birmingham are a complete pain by rail. And, unfortunately, thereís very little pleasure in either using Cross-Country with their short-formed, mega crowded trains, or battling with the crowds across London.

Oh how I wish for the return of a blissful relaxing bimble up to Manchester after lunch on a sunny summer afternoon, with just enough time to enjoy a quick cuppa in a lovely clean, new EMB 175!
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Old 4th May 2024, 14:25
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Originally Posted by inOban
Two changes and about 6 hours. Change at Waterloo to Northern line and then Euston to Glasgow
Was just a quick look on Trainline app but can see there are trains earlier in the day for that date between 6-7 hours with 2-3 changes.

Regardless, outside people with a fear of flying, Iíd be surprised if anyone would not pay the extra £18 to get to Glasgow in 1.5 hours vs 6-7 hours. Letís wait and see what the passenger numbers are like when Logan drop off the route.
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Old 4th May 2024, 15:00
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It is all about frequency with a train at least every hour.
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Old 5th May 2024, 22:37
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Weird Glitch...

Oman Air 789 flight WY101 shown as diverted to Southampton this evening on FR24

Maybe one day.
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Old 8th May 2024, 08:29
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Eastern has reduced CDG down to 4 weekly until mid July.
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Old 8th May 2024, 17:14
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Eastern has reduced CDG down to 4 weekly until mid July.
Eastern are pathetic. Slowly but surely killing off the route. With an AF code you would have at least expected the service to be maintained on daily basis.

Once Air France have overcome their aircraft and pilot shortage then hopefully they might reinstate their own flights without having to rely on the awful Eastern Airways.

Two upcoming examples of demand for a Paris to Southampton link.

On the 10 May we see 55 passengers arriving at LHR from Paris to join the Cunard Line QUEEN ANNE.

On 12 May we see 125 passengers arriving at LHR from Paris to join the Cunard Line QUEEN MARY 2.

These passengers are being coached from LHR direct to the cruise terminals in Southampton.

These are just two examples for next week, there are many other upcoming similar examples.

There is obviously the demand for Paris from Southampton but passengers are either unaware of the current flights or are put off from booking due to the unreliability of Eastern Airways.

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Old 9th May 2024, 08:01
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Does this mean that the EMA-CDG service is also downgraded to 4 weekly too?
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Old 9th May 2024, 08:57
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Does this mean that the EMA-CDG service is also downgraded to 4 weekly too?
Yes the same
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Old 10th May 2024, 09:39
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T3 CDG cancelled again today, total embarrassment for the airport and what is the point with this outfit!

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Old 10th May 2024, 10:43
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T3 CDG cancelled again today, total embarrassment for the airport and what is the point with this outfit!
Totally agree. Whatís odd is since they dropped the Cardiff flight it has been operating fine and pretty much on time. Suddenly out of nowhere itís moved to only 4 a week and keeps getting cancelled. Maybe a crewing issue? Either way as I have said before there really should be a regulatory body that stops airlines like this from offering commercial flights. Your average passenger will not know about the long awful track record this airline has and will probably be missing important meetings, family get togethers, cruises etc because of this shoddy outfit. It shouldnít be allowed to continue. In other industries there are regulatory bodies that shut outfits down if the are operated badly. Same should apply here.
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Old 10th May 2024, 13:16
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Totally agree. What’s odd is since they dropped the Cardiff flight it has been operating fine and pretty much on time. Suddenly out of nowhere it’s moved to only 4 a week and keeps getting cancelled. Maybe a crewing issue? Either way as I have said before there really should be a regulatory body that stops airlines like this from offering commercial flights. Your average passenger will not know about the long awful track record this airline has and will probably be missing important meetings, family get togethers, cruises etc because of this shoddy outfit. It shouldn’t be allowed to continue. In other industries there are regulatory bodies that shut outfits down if the are operated badly. Same should apply here.
I completely agree, it's a shambles and most normal everyday people would have absolutely no idea that this sort of thing happens on a regular basis. I can't help thinking that this would be a great route for easyJet to operate three or four times a week, at least it would provide a nice aircraft, competitive pricing and a fair chance of actually operating!
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Old 10th May 2024, 16:27
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Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
Totally agree. Whatís odd is since they dropped the Cardiff flight it has been operating fine and pretty much on time. Suddenly out of nowhere itís moved to only 4 a week and keeps getting cancelled. Maybe a crewing issue? Either way as I have said before there really should be a regulatory body that stops airlines like this from offering commercial flights. Your average passenger will not know about the long awful track record this airline has and will probably be missing important meetings, family get togethers, cruises etc because of this shoddy outfit. It shouldnít be allowed to continue. In other industries there are regulatory bodies that shut outfits down if the are operated badly. Same should apply here.
I absolutely one hundred percent agree with everything you have mentioned in your post 👏

Now thats a decent post RJ.

There are so many passengers arriving from Paris to join their cruise from the Port of Southampton. 99% of those passengers are either travelling through LHR or via St Pancras on the Eurostar. They are then generally coached directly to the cruise terminals.

When Flybe was in operation there used to be a half hourly shuttle service on Saturdays between the airport and the City Cruise Terminal on behalf of Royal Caribbean Cruise Line. Manchester was always the most popular flight followed by Glasgow and Belfast. RCCL had an operating agreement in place with Flybe. None of that exists anymore.

Do not underestimate the demand for international passengers as well as domestic who are joining their cruise from the Port of Southampton. It's not northern Europe's busiest cruise port for nothing with 2.3 million passengers expected in 2024.



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Old 10th May 2024, 18:25
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
Eastern are pathetic. Slowly but surely killing off the route. With an AF code you would have at least expected the service to be maintained on daily basis.

Once Air France have overcome their aircraft and pilot shortage then hopefully they might reinstate their own flights without having to rely on the awful Eastern Airways.

Two upcoming examples of demand for a Paris to Southampton link.

On the 10 May we see 55 passengers arriving at LHR from Paris to join the Cunard Line QUEEN ANNE.

On 12 May we see 125 passengers arriving at LHR from Paris to join the Cunard Line QUEEN MARY 2.

These passengers are being coached from LHR direct to the cruise terminals in Southampton.

These are just two examples for next week, there are many other upcoming similar examples.

There is obviously the demand for Paris from Southampton but passengers are either unaware of the current flights or are put off from booking due to the unreliability of Eastern Airways.
You have to give praise to a company not trusting Eastern.
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Old 10th May 2024, 22:46
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
I absolutely one hundred percent agree with everything you have mentioned in your post 👏

Now thats a decent post RJ.

There are so many passengers arriving from Paris to join their cruise from the Port of Southampton. 99% of those passengers are either travelling through LHR or via St Pancras on the Eurostar. They are then generally coached directly to the cruise terminals.

When Flybe was in operation there used to be a half hourly shuttle service on Saturdays between the airport and the City Cruise Terminal on behalf of Royal Caribbean Cruise Line. Manchester was always the most popular flight followed by Glasgow and Belfast. RCCL had an operating agreement in place with Flybe. None of that exists anymore.

Do not underestimate the demand for international passengers as well as domestic who are joining their cruise from the Port of Southampton. It's not northern Europe's busiest cruise port for nothing with 2.3 million passengers expected in 2024.
Absolutely. Quite a few businesses based locally that need to get to Paris on a regular basis. Lots of African students connecting on AFís extensive African routes. And letís not forget Disney land and tourists wanting to explore Paris generally. Wasnít it 3 daily at one point under BE?
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Old 10th May 2024, 23:35
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Believe easyJet release new winter routes later this month. Just maybe CDG included?
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Old 13th May 2024, 09:19
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Encouraging to see recent and future easyjet departures to PMI and GLA sold out. Fingers crossed a new route or two will be added at their next release.

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Old 16th May 2024, 06:38
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EZY to reopen the SEN Southend Base with 3 x based A320 from 1 May 2025 - via SeanM on X

Here's hoping for SOU then....
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