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[Sotonsean]

Originally Posted by Pain in the R's

I agree and feel he is toxic. I myself have been accused by him of him of being a troll as I questioned a post. Rivet Joint does not like any posts that doesn’t share his narrow narrative. It’s quite sad really that he has issues and is constantly seeking mod bans, as he wants to turn this thread into fan posts only and wants to stifle debate.

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I fully agree with your comments as well as the comments made in the previous post's. At last this individual is being called out for who he is.

Hypocrisy is the name of the game and it's his own post's that tend to make this thread as toxic as it is.

I get the impression that River Joint thinks that he owns this thread. Hence his hypocrisy and own personal agenda as well as his continued attacks on those that disagree with him.

It's totally pathetic really 🙄

[Rivet Joint]

Originally Posted by Sotonsean

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I fully agree with your comments as well as the comments made in the previous post. At last this individual is being called out for who he is.

Hypocrisy is the name of the game and it's his own post's that tend to make this thread as toxic as it is.

I get the impression that River Joint thinks that he owns this thread. Hence his hypocrisy and own personal agenda as well as his continued attacks on those that disagree with him.

It's totally pathetic really 🙄

And we have another one Anything constructive to say or evidence to put forward to debate my points? Certainly never said I own the thread, perhaps that’s your own insecurity? No attacks on anyone, merely defending the airport this thread is for. How dare I be positive.

happy Christmas to all those who lead a glass half full life. Looking forward to the new orange SOU this year

[RW20]

Originally Posted by Rivet Joint

And we have another one Anything constructive to say or evidence to put forward to debate my points? Certainly never said I own the thread, perhaps that’s your own insecurity? No attacks on anyone, merely defending the airport this thread is for. How dare I be positive.

happy Christmas to all those who lead a glass half full life. Looking forward to the new orange SOU this year

The Airport thread is for all views,your evidence is very limited and non constructive,you seem to be anti Loganair ,who are vital to SOU.You need to have a glass present from Santa for Christmas to begin your full life!

[Albert Hall]

Shame the “like” function elsewhere on this site isn’t available in this forum. I could support some views without the need to post and being called illogical and stupid ! As it is, silence is golden.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by Rivet Joint

No attacks on anyone, merely defending the airport this thread is for.

Anyone with working eyes only needs to read up a page where you consistently throw playground insults and demean others. I have answered your points in detail before, little point in doing so for the 4th time. Most of the posters are pro SOU, they just don't share your views.

[SotonFlightpath]

Hopefully EasyJet will make a success of their new routes from Southampton and a few additional flights could be added if needed. Perhaps an additional flight each week to Alicante and Faro, plus one or two other sun routes could be added in time, and maybe say three each week to Edinburg and Paris CDG could prove popular.

Out of interest, with a few additions to the schedule, would the experts among you feel it would be possible to consider a small base then, and what is the minimum number of aircraft typically at an EasyJet base? At the moment, without any based aircraft, the airport is unfortunately wasting around an hour and a half of precious potential operating time each morning and with this equating to over 40 hours per month, this must have an impact on profitability.

Let’s all hope 2024 sees further positive developments to build on the foundations made this year. Happy Christmas!

[Pain in the R's]

Out of interest, with a few additions to the schedule, would the experts among you feel it would be possible to consider a small base then, and what is the minimum number of aircraft typically at an EasyJet base?

There are no experts here, just people with opinions. There is nothing wrong with that but it is worth making that clear.

[SotonFlightpath]

Originally Posted by Pain in the R's

There are no experts here, just people with opinions. There is nothing wrong with that but it is worth making that clear.

Yes, I guess you are right - I suppose I should have said ‘those with more knowledge of the subject than me.’ As I say, I have an interest in aviation and use the airport from time-to-time, but there are many people on the forum who are much better informed than me. 😊 Happy Christmas!

[Buster the Bear]

Maybe inhaling too many rivets in his joint, has affected his mind

[Expressflight]

From past experience EZY used to open a base with a minimum of three aircraft but I understand that a two-aircraft base can be considered. I'm not sure if they have any such bases at present so I'll let the experts educate me on that point.

[SotonFlightpath]

Originally Posted by Expressflight

From past experience EZY used to open a base with a minimum of three aircraft but I understand that a two-aircraft base can be considered. I'm not sure if they have any such bases at present so I'll let the experts educate me on that point.

Thank you - that is interesting. On that basis, I can understand their reluctance to rush in and establish a base at this point in time, having even two aircraft and allowing for the relatively restricted operating times at the airport, that would still be around around 30 flights a week, possibly a few more with some short sectors. This would be an enormous commitment to begin with, so the way easyJet is playing it at the moment is a far more prudent approach.

I think it's much better to have what some people consider to be a disappointing but sustainable start from which to build, rather than rushing in, only to have to cut-back or withdraw if the business isn't as brisk as hoped-for. Let's be positive, I personally think it's only a matter of time before increased frequencies and further routes are announced which in turn will lead to a small base when a sustainable threshold has been reached. 😊

[SKOJB]

For 2024, a good start would be for easyJet to add MAN, AGP and CDG, anything more would be a bonus. MAN as this route is currently missing and believe it would prove successful, AGP was always a busy BE route and CDG for onward worldwide connections (replacing the dreadful Eastern service to the wrong Paris airport). Don’t think they will do anything out of the ordinary at present and also difficult with SOU being a non orange base, maybe also some regional France such as NCE/BOD, common denominator is any expansion has to be from easyJet bases. Other than that, Frankfurt would be good although cannot see Lufthansa adding when they are cutting regionals elsewhere (maybe once City Airlines is fully up and running) and Wizz would be welcome with a couple of destinations to Poland/Romania. Should make for an interesting year ahead!

[SouthernAlliance]

Eastern really are a complete shower. Yet again ORY delayed over 4 hours as having to wait for an aircraft to position in from HUY. How do these guys ever receive any custom from passengers or for that matter airports put up with them?

[RW20]

Originally Posted by SKOJB

For 2024, a good start would be for easyJet to add MAN, AGP and CDG, anything more would be a bonus. MAN as this route is currently missing and believe it would prove successful, AGP was always a busy BE route and CDG for onward worldwide connections (replacing the dreadful Eastern service to the wrong Paris airport). Don’t think they will do anything out of the ordinary at present and also difficult with SOU being a non orange base, maybe also some regional France such as NCE/BOD, common denominator is any expansion has to be from easyJet bases. Other than that, Frankfurt would be good although cannot see Lufthansa adding when they are cutting regionals elsewhere (maybe once City Airlines is fully up and running) and Wizz would be welcome with a couple of destinations to Poland/Romania. Should make for an interesting year ahead!

With a difficult financial year ahead,I can't see much development on new routes,Easy might add another extra Palma flight,but a base is not feasable with The Airport opening hours. The Paris route needs a new operator,but it's not clear where this could come from.

[davidjohnson6]

Is Air France Hop flying SOU-CDG feasible, or is this against AF strategy to de-emphasise the regional stuff ? Could this route fill an E170 ?

[TartinTon]

Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

Is Air France Hop flying SOU-CDG feasible, or is this against AF strategy to de-emphasise the regional stuff ? Could this route fill an E170 ?

Possibly if they have aircraft/crews. The whole reason that AF are touting the ORY slots around to all and sundry was just because they felt they would be too stretched to operate them on their own metal.

[Albert Hall]

As I understand it, the AF Orly operations are slot sitting until Transavia has received enough aircraft to take over the slots and fly them to wherever it wants. One has to presume that Southampton, Cardiff and East Midlands won't be especially high on their list, but who knows. The arrangement with Eastern is a marriage of inconvenience for a limited period.

The smallest aircraft in the AF Hop fleet is the Embraer 170 - happy to stand corrected but I believe those are mostly in the regions and the smallest aircraft at CDG is the 100-seat E190. That's a relatively high bar for capacity for any new route to a regional airport. Again, not to say that it won't happen, but I'd not be rushing to the bookies to lay bets on it any time soon.

[SouthernAlliance]

Do we think easyjet would be interested in CDG?
they seem to operate SEN up to 4 weekly

[SWBKCB]

The Hop EMB-170's are regular in CDG on a mix of international and domestic flights. AF flights from the UK regions need to be looked at with along KLM in terms of serving their long haul routes

[Albert Hall]

easyJet probably won't be interested until or unless someone else starts CDG and they'll wade in with a competing service to spoil the other airline's party. After the other airline has either cut back or left, they'll then reduce their own service.