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Old 20th Jun 2023, 20:52
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Marlhill Copse back on the agenda next week with the council, recommendation is to approve with limited remediation to select trees. Assume if passed this will improve runway declared distances

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Old 20th Jun 2023, 22:00
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
Marlhill Copse back on the agenda next week with the council, recommendation is to approve with limited remediation to select trees. Assume if passed this will improve runway declared distances
Will not have any impact on the runway declared distances, but, if the selected ones are the worst Type A Chart penetrating obstacles then their removal could further improve the increased take-off weights brought about by provision of the runway extension, ie more passengers or range. It would then be the proverbial icing on the cake.
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Old 21st Jun 2023, 08:20
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Seeing the runway practically kisses the M27 how about traffic lights to stop high sided vehicles passing when there is a Easyjet departure or maybe brushing the tree tops is enough?
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Old 21st Jun 2023, 08:43
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If that's not said in jest, that is a terrible idea...
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Old 21st Jun 2023, 09:05
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Originally Posted by Pain in the R's
Seeing the runway practically kisses the M27 how about traffic lights to stop high sided vehicles passing when there is a Easyjet departure or maybe brushing the tree tops is enough?
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Old 21st Jun 2023, 09:11
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Originally Posted by Pain in the R's
Seeing the runway practically kisses the M27 how about traffic lights to stop high sided vehicles passing when there is a Easyjet departure or maybe brushing the tree tops is enough?
This is a one shot response before you join LTNman, aka CVTman, in the troll folder.

International survey standards require that if you have a road or railway passing close to a runway to allow for mobile obstacles that may be using it, the surveyor must add 4.8 metres to its level. Hence the reason why the M27 to the south is in a cutting and accordingly does not show as "mobile obstacles" on the ICAO Type A charts.Hence no traffic lights required - simples!

"Brushing the tree tops" clearly shows a total ignorance of how obstacles are operationally managed, not worth causing any more wear to my keyboard.
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Old 21st Jun 2023, 10:09
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Traffic lights on the M27??........yeah good one!!!
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Old 21st Jun 2023, 11:01
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do you think anyone would stop??
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Old 21st Jun 2023, 12:15
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
do you think anyone would stop??
That's probably where the follow-up reply would be to employ snipers on the motorway gantries to take out anyone who didn't obey the traffic lights.
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Old 21st Jun 2023, 15:09
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What is that black area at the end of the runway. Is it some sort of arrester system?


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Old 21st Jun 2023, 16:03
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Presumably it's the 90m x 74m RESA but whether it has an 'arrester' surface I don't know.

I'm a little surprised that this very minimum RESA length that SOU has is permitted considering what lies in the overrun path. Grandfather rights presumably.
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Old 21st Jun 2023, 16:12
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Yes it is a ground arrester system, it was put in place in 1994/95.
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Old 21st Jun 2023, 18:39
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
Yes it is a ground arrester system, it was put in place in 1994/95.
After an idiot in a Citation tried to save time/money while positioning in to do an outbound charter. Landed (very late) on RWY 20 with a tailwind on a wet runway and ended up on the M27. We must be close to the anniversary of the idiot's antics?

With the arrestor bed in place it was put to good use some years later when a Seneca, landing in fog well below weather minima, saw the runway very late, decided to go for it and ended up in the arrestor bed. Fortunately for SOU minimal damage, the Seneca didn't do so well!
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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 08:24
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
There hasn't been any progress updates on the airport's extension APP since the 25 May. With the fine weather that we are currently experiencing surely it wouldn't be too difficult to get some drone footage of the current status of the runway extension.
Four new photos have appeared dated 20 June. While showing that progress is being made, I feel that pictures of cable ducts falls short of the public's expectations of what was going to be shown? Where are some drone or other aerial shots of the construction site?
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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 12:35
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
Four new photos have appeared dated 20 June. While showing that progress is being made, I feel that pictures of cable ducts falls short of the public's expectations of what was going to be shown? Where are some drone or other aerial shots of the construction site?
Now understood that something more exciting may appear next week?
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Old 23rd Jun 2023, 07:37
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
After an idiot in a Citation tried to save time/money while positioning in to do an outbound charter. Landed (very late) on RWY 20 with a tailwind on a wet runway and ended up on the M27. We must be close to the anniversary of the idiot's antics?

With the arrestor bed in place it was put to good use some years later when a Seneca, landing in fog well below weather minima, saw the runway very late, decided to go for it and ended up in the arrestor bed. Fortunately for SOU minimal damage, the Seneca didn't do so well!
I didn't really want to bring up the incident concerning the Citation for obvious reasons in regard to the certain individual who I had replied to 😉

On another note, I've just viewed the totally underwhelming images on the runway extension APP 🙄
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Old 23rd Jun 2023, 08:06
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
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On another note, I've just viewed the totally underwhelming images on the runway extension APP 🙄
Watch this space, possibly something more exciting/revealing coming next week?

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Old 25th Jun 2023, 17:35
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someone has started another Southampton thread - - ignore!!!
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 10:19
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EZY have released flights up to early June 24 but nothing showing for GLA/BFS beyond winter season. Thought these new routes were year round?
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 12:16
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
EZY have released flights up to early June 24 but nothing showing for GLA/BFS beyond winter season. Thought these new routes were year round?
Maybe a slot filler during the quieter winter months and better airframe usage to warmer climes in summer (however they may still be loaded over the coming days and weeks)

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