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How many of BE's other routes haven't been picked up? V2 will have known more about the profitablity of the French routes than you or I, but their approach was lukewarm. PMI has been flown by many operators using a variety of aircraft over the years. 'very successful' routes don't sit without an operator for long.
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Yep and they were all having to offload pax and baggage to get airborne from SOU, hence the routes became uneconomic. This will change now my friend and the orange lot seem to agree!
Alicante,
Air Europa B733/B734
Barcelona,
Vueling A319
Faro,
Sata B733
TUI B733
Ibiza
Air Europa B733/B734
Volotea A319/B717
Malaga,
Air Europa B733/B734
Mahon,
Air Europa B733/B734
TUI B733/B757
Malta,
Air Malta B733
Palma,
Air Europa B733/B734
Evelope A320I
Iberojet A320
Oasis MD83
Spanair A320/MD83
Transeuropa SE210
TUI B733/B734
Volotea A319/B717
Tenerife,
Air Europa B733/B734
TUI B757
Varna,
BH Air A320
I'm certain that Air Europa flew to all of the Spanish destinations but I've added those that I am aware of.
I've got the impression that the poster in question is obviously too young to realise the above information.
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Price war already broken out on GLA route, Loganair have reduced their one way fares on Thu/Sat to within £15 of EZY (this on equivalent flight departing around the same time on these days)
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I know there are some who think that Loganair should get carte blanche, but it just shows you what happens when there is some competition.
It's a classic people wanting their cake and eating it.
Want multiple daily business friendly frequencies with connections to the Highlands and Islands? Then Loganair's your best option.
Want to fly for a lot less and don't mind when you fly? Then easyJet is a great option, but expect lower frequency.
I don't think there's room for both on SOU-GLA and it seems Loganair will be pushed out so net benefit is lower average fares at the expense of connectivity, which may be OK in this market. Times change. What you don't want to see is an easyJet monopoly flying Sun/Mon/Wed/Fri only
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Making profits won’t interest people here who are only interested in counting passengers, as a way of measuring success.
It will all end in tears with no one serving Glasgow. Just think Southend.
It will all end in tears with no one serving Glasgow. Just think Southend.
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I'm not anti easyJet in the slightest here but saying Loganair is expensive because easyJet offer flights for £35 on a few flights per week after 4pm on a Thursday seems a little unfair.
If you have to be in Glasgow by 11am on a Monday morning the comparison is the price and time spent on a train. In which case Loganair are very well priced.
If you have to be in Glasgow by 11am on a Monday morning the comparison is the price and time spent on a train. In which case Loganair are very well priced.
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https://simpleflying.com/loganair-un...glasgow-route/
The Scottish regional carrier fears that its services could be jeopardized as a result of easyJet's presence, despite operating more often.
While airlines relish competition, Loganair CEO Jonathan Hinkles took to LinkedIn last week to share certain concerns about this move. Looking at four other UK domestic routes, he noted that, in recent years, easyJet "has started up competition on each of these routes, and then hastily pulled off again.
Hinkles worries that, on the days when both easyJet and Loganair flights are serving the Glasgow-Southampton route (Thursdays and Saturdays, in this case), demand won't be sufficient to sustain both services. This may have the potential to affect the Scottish carrier's long-term viability on the corridor
Hinkles worries that, on the days when both easyJet and Loganair flights are serving the Glasgow-Southampton route (Thursdays and Saturdays, in this case), demand won't be sufficient to sustain both services. This may have the potential to affect the Scottish carrier's long-term viability on the corridor
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Reading between the lines, I don’t think he thinks much of easyJet’s network planning either but has stopped short of publicly calling them inept! Pretty clear that none of these ventures by easyJet have worked so the assumption seems to be that this won’t either. I can see why, but guess it’s painful in the meantime for as long as it lasts.
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LM have had a good run but post runway it’s time for a low cost operator to be the main operator at SOU. Is it really too much of a stretch to imagine the Scottish routes being double daily on a 320? LM are doing 5 flights a day as it is.
I see LMs point but let’s not overlook the fact they could have brought in larger more economical aircraft to operate the route which would lead to lower fairs. There were a lot of q400s going spare. I do not think there is another airline in Europe operating affectively a business jet on commercial services. They could have acted but didn’t, so part of this is their own fault.
I see LMs point but let’s not overlook the fact they could have brought in larger more economical aircraft to operate the route which would lead to lower fairs. There were a lot of q400s going spare. I do not think there is another airline in Europe operating affectively a business jet on commercial services. They could have acted but didn’t, so part of this is their own fault.
LM have had a good run but post runway it’s time for a low cost operator to be the main operator at SOU. Is it really too much of a stretch to imagine the Scottish routes being double daily on a 320? LM are doing 5 flights a day as it is.
I see LMs point but let’s not overlook the fact they could have brought in larger more economical aircraft to operate the route which would lead to lower fairs. There were a lot of q400s going spare. I do not think there is another airline in Europe operating affectively a business jet on commercial services. They could have acted but didn’t, so part of this is their own fault.
I see LMs point but let’s not overlook the fact they could have brought in larger more economical aircraft to operate the route which would lead to lower fairs. There were a lot of q400s going spare. I do not think there is another airline in Europe operating affectively a business jet on commercial services. They could have acted but didn’t, so part of this is their own fault.
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LM have had a good run but post runway it’s time for a low cost operator to be the main operator at SOU. Is it really too much of a stretch to imagine the Scottish routes being double daily on a 320? LM are doing 5 flights a day as it is.
I see LMs point but let’s not overlook the fact they could have brought in larger more economical aircraft to operate the route which would lead to lower fairs. There were a lot of q400s going spare. I do not think there is another airline in Europe operating affectively a business jet on commercial services. They could have acted but didn’t, so part of this is their own fault.
I see LMs point but let’s not overlook the fact they could have brought in larger more economical aircraft to operate the route which would lead to lower fairs. There were a lot of q400s going spare. I do not think there is another airline in Europe operating affectively a business jet on commercial services. They could have acted but didn’t, so part of this is their own fault.
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LM have had a good run but post runway it’s time for a low cost operator to be the main operator at SOU. Is it really too much of a stretch to imagine the Scottish routes being double daily on a 320? LM are doing 5 flights a day as it is.
I see LMs point but let’s not overlook the fact they could have brought in larger more economical aircraft to operate the route which would lead to lower fairs. There were a lot of q400s going spare. I do not think there is another airline in Europe operating affectively a business jet on commercial services. They could have acted but didn’t, so part of this is their own fault.
I see LMs point but let’s not overlook the fact they could have brought in larger more economical aircraft to operate the route which would lead to lower fairs. There were a lot of q400s going spare. I do not think there is another airline in Europe operating affectively a business jet on commercial services. They could have acted but didn’t, so part of this is their own fault.