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I get that side of the argument but on the other hand isn't it a reason NOT to go to Liverpool? If you're already the UK's #1 package holiday company with a well known brand and no direct competitor at LPL (No TUI etc) wouldn't your pax already be happy to go to Manchester?
Manchester must be able to accommodate further growth for them in the next 18-24 months. If they can't they need to be asking serious questions of themselves as an airport. Would Jet2 go to all the hassle with a new LPL base to then grow again at Manchester in the foreseeable?
Manchester must be able to accommodate further growth for them in the next 18-24 months. If they can't they need to be asking serious questions of themselves as an airport. Would Jet2 go to all the hassle with a new LPL base to then grow again at Manchester in the foreseeable?
But there is Tui from Liverpool and Easyjet Holidays, all using Easyjet aircraft. Therefore Jet2 is missing at least some of this. Is it so much hassle for Jet2 , they are at EMA and BHX after all.
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Liverpool-based Arrowsmith Holidays, used to operate programmes from both Liverpool and Manchester using mostly Laker and Cambrian Airways aircraft...
... never a problem filling the aircraft even though the programme was in the main ´mirrored´ at both airports. (and Lord Brothers too - owned by Laker)
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Perhaps before the gluttony of self book low cost options everywhere… particularly MAN (compared to Liverpool)
Here's the thing though chaps and ladies -
Jet2 are pretty much distancing themselves from the Low-Cost flights only model as their core business, and going for >>>> guess what ? Package Holidays...gosh who would have thought....
As BACsuperVC10 points out - >
But there is TUI from Liverpool and Easyjet Holidays, all using Easyjet aircraft.
But Jet2 Holidays are serious about selling the whole in-house Package Tour model --- With regard to Liverpool they would have an open ticket compared to TUI and Easyjet Holidays.
The competitors marketing is not up there with Jet2 Holidays.
Liverpool-based Arrowsmith Holidays, used to operate programmes from both Liverpool and Manchester using mostly Laker and Cambrian Airways aircraft...
... never a problem filling the aircraft even though the programme was in the main ´mirrored´ at both airports. (and Lord Brothers too - owned by Laker)
VickersVicount
Perhaps before the gluttony of self book low cost options everywhere… particularly MAN (compared to Liverpool)
Here's the thing though chaps and ladies -
Jet2 are pretty much distancing themselves from the Low-Cost flights only model as their core business, and going for >>>> guess what ? Package Holidays...gosh who would have thought....
As BACsuperVC10 points out - >
But there is TUI from Liverpool and Easyjet Holidays, all using Easyjet aircraft.
But Jet2 Holidays are serious about selling the whole in-house Package Tour model --- With regard to Liverpool they would have an open ticket compared to TUI and Easyjet Holidays.
The competitors marketing is not up there with Jet2 Holidays.
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I’m curious as to what growth Jet2 envisages. Is it more of the same, increasing frequencies and capacity to the likes of Alicante and Tenerife? Is opening more bases across the U.K.? Or is it launching some new destinations, especially ones growing in popularity where TUI seem to have the monopoly? How about more city break destinations? Or all of the above?
I really cannot see why Jet2 would want a LPL operation as a high percentage of MAN operation come from Wales and Merseyside
anyway so all that would be doing is reduce the Manchester loads.and it would add to costs plus unless they had a large based fleet
they would have the pleasure of using a handling agent instead of self handling
anyway so all that would be doing is reduce the Manchester loads.and it would add to costs plus unless they had a large based fleet
they would have the pleasure of using a handling agent instead of self handling
I really cannot see why Jet2 would want a LPL operation as a high percentage of MAN operation come from Wales and Merseyside
anyway so all that would be doing is reduce the Manchester loads.and it would add to costs plus unless they had a large based fleet
they would have the pleasure of using a handling agent instead of self handling
anyway so all that would be doing is reduce the Manchester loads.and it would add to costs plus unless they had a large based fleet
they would have the pleasure of using a handling agent instead of self handling
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But then that's an argument for them to go into nearly every major airport in the country.
The positioning of LPL airport, north of the Mersey, means for a lot of people there is minimal time difference in getting to LPL over Manchester. If I live in St Helen's Manchester is only 10 mins further away.
The positioning of East Midlands over BHX doesn't have that, there is a clear time saving for a lot of the people living nearby to get there over BHX.
Question for Jet2 - is their brand powerful enough and are they price competitive enough to attract people from North Wales to drive an extra 15-20 mins up the motorway to fly with them over a TUI holiday sold on easyJet flights. I would say the answer at the moment is yes.
(I'm not saying they won't go to LPL, just thinking out loud as to the reasons why they might not!)
The positioning of LPL airport, north of the Mersey, means for a lot of people there is minimal time difference in getting to LPL over Manchester. If I live in St Helen's Manchester is only 10 mins further away.
The positioning of East Midlands over BHX doesn't have that, there is a clear time saving for a lot of the people living nearby to get there over BHX.
Question for Jet2 - is their brand powerful enough and are they price competitive enough to attract people from North Wales to drive an extra 15-20 mins up the motorway to fly with them over a TUI holiday sold on easyJet flights. I would say the answer at the moment is yes.
(I'm not saying they won't go to LPL, just thinking out loud as to the reasons why they might not!)
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I could see Jet2 at LPL but not under their own family friendly brand. Perhaps a subsidiary crewed by burly types and a premium on every ticket to cover diversions to remove unruly passengers.
I have not settled on a name yet. Scouser Jet or Scally Air.
I have not settled on a name yet. Scouser Jet or Scally Air.
By the mid-1980s (after Laker and Cambrian's time), when this road network was mostly complete, there was so little traffic at Liverpool that I was quite surprised the airport was not closed down for good.
Philip Meeson has kept Jet2 in good financial position by going for financially worthwhile markets and growth with a competent product, and not indulging in willy-waving "I'm bigger than you are" over-expansion into marginal markets.
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An airline can think about opening bases in the UK or Northern Europe but as the Southern European airports you are hoping to fly to/from are becoming increasingly slot restricted then it's a non starter.
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However, that was in the days before multiple motorway routes between Merseyside and Manchester, which now make the latter's airport only about an hour's drive. It's even more pronounced from the Wirral side. Liverpool airport's poor (non-existent) motorway links are a significant part. Although you can see the Welsh hills to the west from Liverpool's control tower, Manchester, to the east, is actually much quicker to get to from there than Liverpool.
By the mid-1980s (after Laker and Cambrian's time), when this road network was mostly complete, there was so little traffic at Liverpool that I was quite surprised the airport was not closed down for good.
Philip Meeson has kept Jet2 in good financial position by going for financially worthwhile markets and growth with a competent product, and not indulging in willy-waving "I'm bigger than you are" over-expansion into marginal markets.
By the mid-1980s (after Laker and Cambrian's time), when this road network was mostly complete, there was so little traffic at Liverpool that I was quite surprised the airport was not closed down for good.
Philip Meeson has kept Jet2 in good financial position by going for financially worthwhile markets and growth with a competent product, and not indulging in willy-waving "I'm bigger than you are" over-expansion into marginal markets.
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I really cannot see why Jet2 would want a LPL operation as a high percentage of MAN operation come from Wales and Merseyside
anyway so all that would be doing is reduce the Manchester loads.and it would add to costs plus unless they had a large based fleet
they would have the pleasure of using a handling agent instead of self handling
anyway so all that would be doing is reduce the Manchester loads.and it would add to costs plus unless they had a large based fleet
they would have the pleasure of using a handling agent instead of self handling