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Thank you for the link, and information.
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Thank you for the link, and information.
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All well aware and thats specifically why i call it a one and a half runway operation with the associated impact that result in the relatively low per hour flow rate.
Still it remains the the outer runway displacement aside ideally should be the landing strip, indeed demonstrating the point on the 05s traffic flows and ground conflicts virtually disappear
Still it remains the the outer runway displacement aside ideally should be the landing strip, indeed demonstrating the point on the 05s traffic flows and ground conflicts virtually disappear
One and a half runways is a reasonable description - but where would you have put a second runway to get a doubling of capacity?
What MAN has ended up with is an increase in runway capacity and a reduction of holding delays over the single runway it had before.
I strongly suggest that with any other layout, the planning application would have been rejected and we would still be stuck with a single runway to this day.
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Ok will take your word for it. But if the article was inaccurate what caused the incident ?
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Ok will take your word for it. But if the article was inaccurate what caused the incident ?
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It appears to be June and September only for the student run as spanners mentions. For the lead up to the Christmas period, it's back to 4 x weekly. .
Somewhat strange that Hainan will be operating daily for part of the summer to Beijing, but when it comes to HK, MAN appears to be low down, if not bottom, of the CX pecking order for restoring frequency to the pre-covid level of daily. You do wonder if we'll ever get back to daily..
Somewhat strange that Hainan will be operating daily for part of the summer to Beijing, but when it comes to HK, MAN appears to be low down, if not bottom, of the CX pecking order for restoring frequency to the pre-covid level of daily. You do wonder if we'll ever get back to daily..
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The Hong Kong Market has fallen through the floor. Cathay has replaced 777-300s with A350-900s on two of the five daily flight (CX was 6 a day from Heathrow pre-covid), BA maintain 2 daily using a 777-200 and a 787-9 (replacing an A380 and a 777-300 pre-covid) and Virgin Atlantic has pulled off the route completely.
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The Hong Kong Market has fallen through the floor. Cathay has replaced 777-300s with A350-900s on two of the five daily flight (CX was 6 a day from Heathrow pre-covid), BA maintain 2 daily using a 777-200 and a 787-9 (replacing an A380 and a 777-300 pre-covid) and Virgin Atlantic has pulled off the route completely.
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It appears to be June and September only for the student run as spanners mentions. For the lead up to the Christmas period, it's back to 4 x weekly. .
Somewhat strange that Hainan will be operating daily for part of the summer to Beijing, but when it comes to HK, MAN appears to be low down, if not bottom, of the CX pecking order for restoring frequency to the pre-covid level of daily. You do wonder if we'll ever get back to daily..
Somewhat strange that Hainan will be operating daily for part of the summer to Beijing, but when it comes to HK, MAN appears to be low down, if not bottom, of the CX pecking order for restoring frequency to the pre-covid level of daily. You do wonder if we'll ever get back to daily..
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And I understand LFs for the 4 months Oct-Jan averaged 94% so no shortage of passengers on the 4 x weekly flights.
The Hong Kong market may have shrunk to a degree, but I would have thought a fair proportion of those MAN passengers would be flying onwards from HKG, some with a stopover for a few days.
And I guess December and January will have been boosted by students travelling in both directions..
The Hong Kong market may have shrunk to a degree, but I would have thought a fair proportion of those MAN passengers would be flying onwards from HKG, some with a stopover for a few days.
And I guess December and January will have been boosted by students travelling in both directions..
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There is quite a bit off stuff happening in China currently business wise and a number of companies are leaving and near shoring or moving elsewhere, not huge numbers but growing. Also IT changes have made face to face less necessary in particular with UK companies I find. I am not sure this is a good thing by the way as I find nothing is better than human contact even with language barriers, as human reactions are universal.
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There is quite a bit off stuff happening in China currently business wise and a number of companies are leaving and near shoring or moving elsewhere, not huge numbers but growing. Also IT changes have made face to face less necessary in particular with UK companies I find. I am not sure this is a good thing by the way as I find nothing is better than human contact even with language barriers, as human reactions are universal.
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There is quite a bit off stuff happening in China currently business wise and a number of companies are leaving and near shoring or moving elsewhere, not huge numbers but growing. Also IT changes have made face to face less necessary in particular with UK companies I find. I am not sure this is a good thing by the way as I find nothing is better than human contact even with language barriers, as human reactions are universal.
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There is quite a bit off stuff happening in China currently business wise and a number of companies are leaving and near shoring or moving elsewhere, not huge numbers but growing. Also IT changes have made face to face less necessary in particular with UK companies I find. I am not sure this is a good thing by the way as I find nothing is better than human contact even with language barriers, as human reactions are universal.
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Has there been a change at the top of Virgin ?
Since the heady days when Virgin started at Manchester with the "supposed" double pivot of Heathrow and Manchester they seem to have completely forgotten about us.
There isn't even mention of Las Vegas 😯
I recall someone saying last year they were on a Vigin coach tour between LA and San Franscisco, everyone on the coach was from the North of England !!!
Since the heady days when Virgin started at Manchester with the "supposed" double pivot of Heathrow and Manchester they seem to have completely forgotten about us.
There isn't even mention of Las Vegas 😯
I recall someone saying last year they were on a Vigin coach tour between LA and San Franscisco, everyone on the coach was from the North of England !!!
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And just to add, VS last week finally confirmed that they are no longer going ahead with their planned and much delayed Virgin Clubhouse at Manchester Airport.
The Virgin Atlantic route network from Manchester should have been far more substantial than it currently is if everything went to plan prior to covid.
If everything went to plan, the VS route network from Manchester would or could have more than likely consisted of the following destinations.
Atlanta
Barbados
Delhi
Islamabad
Lahore
Las Vegas
Los Angeles
Mumbai
New York JFK
Orlando
San Francisco
And possibly Boston and Cape Town at some point.
With the route network consisting of the above destinations then the planned Virgin Clubhouse would have been more viable. But not with the current flights offered by Virgin Atlantic from Manchester.
It's a real shame for Manchester Airport that Virgin Atlantic never really took the opportunity to expand from the airport and make it an alternative hub to their network from London Heathrow.
With Star Alliance being the largest of the three airline groups, represented at Manchester Airport I wonder if they would consider having a dedicated lounge at some point.
The Virgin Atlantic route network from Manchester should have been far more substantial than it currently is if everything went to plan prior to covid.
If everything went to plan, the VS route network from Manchester would or could have more than likely consisted of the following destinations.
Atlanta
Barbados
Delhi
Islamabad
Lahore
Las Vegas
Los Angeles
Mumbai
New York JFK
Orlando
San Francisco
And possibly Boston and Cape Town at some point.
With the route network consisting of the above destinations then the planned Virgin Clubhouse would have been more viable. But not with the current flights offered by Virgin Atlantic from Manchester.
It's a real shame for Manchester Airport that Virgin Atlantic never really took the opportunity to expand from the airport and make it an alternative hub to their network from London Heathrow.
With Star Alliance being the largest of the three airline groups, represented at Manchester Airport I wonder if they would consider having a dedicated lounge at some point.
And just to add, VS last week finally confirmed that they are no longer going ahead with their planned and much delayed Virgin Clubhouse at Manchester Airport.
The Virgin Atlantic route network from Manchester should have been far more substantial than it currently is if everything went to plan prior to covid.
The Virgin Atlantic route network from Manchester should have been far more substantial than it currently is if everything went to plan prior to covid.
I was just commenting that's all, I wasn't debating it. In the interests of Manchester Airport, that's all.
I must admit Skip, that once I started reading your post and the way in which it was typed, my immediate thought was, has he been having a cheeky Sunday afternoon drink 🍸
FYI...I'm am definitely not a Virgin Atlantic fan, or a Virgin brand fan for that matter. I think a lot of Sir Richard Branson as a person but from personal experience I'm absolutely not a fan of his relative brands, that's for sure.
I must admit Skip, that once I started reading your post and the way in which it was typed, my immediate thought was, has he been having a cheeky Sunday afternoon drink 🍸
FYI...I'm am definitely not a Virgin Atlantic fan, or a Virgin brand fan for that matter. I think a lot of Sir Richard Branson as a person but from personal experience I'm absolutely not a fan of his relative brands, that's for sure.