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Unfortunately CX has to use 5 slots a day at LHR, as they do not want to loose them, what with LHR being the centre of the universe! The consequences of not enough pilots and a/c means that places like MAN, had to give up slots in order to serve LHR. MAN was supposed to be daily this summer, as were other European ports, but in order to maintain LHR the other European ports had to sacrifice some of their flts! Until such time as there are enough pilots/aircraft (still have 30 in storage until the end of the year) things won't change unfortunately.
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The very same thing was done for this summer, didn't happen, the same will be done for the winter, doesn't mean it will happen I'm afraid. Don't get me wrong I hope it does, but can't see it happening, at a guess the earliest would be S24.
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Friends used Manchester for a holiday to Rhodes with Tui recently. They said airport check in queue was 1 hour. They say security had 2 lanes open and took 50 minutes to get through.
On the way back they said they landed late and were on the plane for 1 hour because there were no steps or bus to allow them to disembark. They should have landed at 01.40 but due to various delays it was 4.15am when they collected their bags.
The following day they flew to IOM and the boarding gate was announced on the screens, so they went to the gate. Then whilst at the gate the screen said final call. However, they said boarding had not commenced - even though the plane was on the apron.
On the way back they said they landed late and were on the plane for 1 hour because there were no steps or bus to allow them to disembark. They should have landed at 01.40 but due to various delays it was 4.15am when they collected their bags.
The following day they flew to IOM and the boarding gate was announced on the screens, so they went to the gate. Then whilst at the gate the screen said final call. However, they said boarding had not commenced - even though the plane was on the apron.
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Unfortunately nearly all of your problems appear to be down to the airlines handling agents - queues for checkin, waiting for steps and the boarding information on the screens. I assume the airside buses are the direct responsibility of the airport however if, as you say, your flight was a few hours late then your bus(s) might have already been allocated to other flights.
I know it's a pain, but so often the fault is as an accumulation of factors.
I know it's a pain, but so often the fault is as an accumulation of factors.
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Friends used Manchester for a holiday to Rhodes with Tui recently. They said airport check in queue was 1 hour. They say security had 2 lanes open and took 50 minutes to get through.
On the way back they said they landed late and were on the plane for 1 hour because there were no steps or bus to allow them to disembark. They should have landed at 01.40 but due to various delays it was 4.15am when they collected their bags.
The following day they flew to IOM and the boarding gate was announced on the screens, so they went to the gate. Then whilst at the gate the screen said final call. However, they said boarding had not commenced - even though the plane was on the apron.
On the way back they said they landed late and were on the plane for 1 hour because there were no steps or bus to allow them to disembark. They should have landed at 01.40 but due to various delays it was 4.15am when they collected their bags.
The following day they flew to IOM and the boarding gate was announced on the screens, so they went to the gate. Then whilst at the gate the screen said final call. However, they said boarding had not commenced - even though the plane was on the apron.
I queued for 45 mins on 21st May to drop my case off with TUI, but Swissport are still not fully staffed so this explains these queues.
But I am surprised at the security queue you mention, 95% of passengers have been processed within 15 mins since April now, across all three terminals, I think your friends were unlucky on this particular day.
Doesn't look like a new broom
Ken O’Toole was appointed as Deputy Chief Executive in 2022. Prior to this he was the Group's Chief Development Officer. the Chief Executive of London Stansted Airport, and before that Chief Executive of Manchester Airport.
Ken O’Toole was appointed as Deputy Chief Executive in 2022. Prior to this he was the Group's Chief Development Officer. the Chief Executive of London Stansted Airport, and before that Chief Executive of Manchester Airport.
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On the contrary my dear old thing, it appears retribution has been swift from the Manchester restaurant shareholders for a chef who preferred his customers to fine dine at an East Midlands Airport table, and was summoned by the owners above, who found out indirectly via a telling off from a higher authority.
The owners nearly choked when full details of how the menu was put together was read back to them.
Moral of the story - You should always book your customers at a place where they wish to eat, it appears our chef was taking orders by phone and sending them many miles away without the knowledge or consent of the owners.
The owners nearly choked when full details of how the menu was put together was read back to them.
Moral of the story - You should always book your customers at a place where they wish to eat, it appears our chef was taking orders by phone and sending them many miles away without the knowledge or consent of the owners.
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Chris Woodruff is the chap to watch, appears from the outside to be driving a coach and horses through some departments.
On his watch the TCX hangar is finally being utilised and the no diversion notam consigned to the bin.
Always watching can you explain your stance?
"Telling off from a higher authority"
I assume this relates to cross selling and artifical redirection of freight bound for Manchester to East Midlands and indeed Stansted. I'm not sure which authority has come down hard here. CAA or Monopolies commission.
Can you elaborate ?
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Friends used Manchester for a holiday to Rhodes with Tui recently. They said airport check in queue was 1 hour. They say security had 2 lanes open and took 50 minutes to get through.
On the way back they said they landed late and were on the plane for 1 hour because there were no steps or bus to allow them to disembark. They should have landed at 01.40 but due to various delays it was 4.15am when they collected their bags.
The following day they flew to IOM and the boarding gate was announced on the screens, so they went to the gate. Then whilst at the gate the screen said final call. However, they said boarding had not commenced - even though the plane was on the apron.
On the way back they said they landed late and were on the plane for 1 hour because there were no steps or bus to allow them to disembark. They should have landed at 01.40 but due to various delays it was 4.15am when they collected their bags.
The following day they flew to IOM and the boarding gate was announced on the screens, so they went to the gate. Then whilst at the gate the screen said final call. However, they said boarding had not commenced - even though the plane was on the apron.
Obviously, I can't deny the accuracy of these 3rd party reports but am happy to comment our own experience at MAN. Arriving at T2 at 03.30 for a 06.00 TUI flight on a busy Monday morning 3 weeks ago, we were checked in and through security by 04.00. There were plenty of Swissport and as I recall, TUI staff in the check in area...
I accept there have been other reports which said that queues for TUI check-in were well back into the Skylink, but which also pointed out that the queue was moving fairly quickly with plenty of staff on hand and check-in took about 30 minutes. It would be interesting to know if Swissport are fully staffed for this summer..
And based on the stats produced by MAN for average times at security for the 3 Terminals in recent months and the data for waiting times displayed on their web site, I would suggest your friends must have been desperately unlucky, assuming of course you believe them not to be exaggerating.. .
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Would anyone else agreed that Warsaw is underserved from Manchester? I think there’s the opportunity for either LOT or Wizz to operate from Warsaw Chopin. Ryanair currently thrice weekly to Warsaw Modlin (secondary airport) I believe.
Are there any other short-haul destinations which are underserved from Manchester, that could be operate by a full service airline or low cost carrier?
Are there any other short-haul destinations which are underserved from Manchester, that could be operate by a full service airline or low cost carrier?
Would anyone else agreed that Warsaw is underserved from Manchester? I think there’s the opportunity for either LOT or Wizz to operate from Warsaw Chopin. Ryanair currently thrice weekly to Warsaw Modlin (secondary airport) I believe.
Are there any other short-haul destinations which are underserved from Manchester, that could be operate by a full service airline or low cost carrier?
Are there any other short-haul destinations which are underserved from Manchester, that could be operate by a full service airline or low cost carrier?
As already mentioned, an up gauge with Iberia would be great. A daily Iberia Madrid to Manchester service instead of the current Iberia Express flights.
Hopefully Manchester will eventually see ITA Airways at some point with a service from Milan. The former Alitalia had an on off relationship with Manchester and considering that almost all of the European national airlines have consistently served Manchester it's always surprised me regarding the Italians.
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Hopefully Manchester will eventually see ITA Airways at some point with a service from Milan. The former Alitalia had an on off relationship with Manchester and considering that almost all of the European national airlines have consistently served Manchester it's always surprised me regarding the Italians.
The majority if not all of the European national airlines have consistently served Manchester over the past several decades and have remained at the airport regardless of the growth in LCCs over the last two decades.
Alitalia on the other hand had always an on off relationship with Manchester over the decades compared to the rest of the European national airlines serving the airport. Even before the advent of the LCC competition Alitalia were starting and stopping Milan to Manchester. At one point it was a daily B727 service. So getting back to my previous comments, I've never understood why Alitalia found it difficult serving Manchester when so many of the airline's contemporaries have remained at the airport and are successful even with the competition from the LCCs.
I am fairly confident that ITA Airways which of course is the former Alitalia in disguise will eventually launch a Milan to Manchester route.
On another note.
Air Baltic is another European national airline currently not serving Manchester. With Air Baltic expanding their route network and having a large fleet of A220s I'm surprised that they haven't announced a resumption of a Riga to Manchester route. Air Baltic announced this week that they are looking at acquiring a further 30 A220s. Hopefully Air Baltic at some stage will announce the launch of a Riga to Manchester route.
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Ryanair or Easyjet to Toulouse is a big missing destination! Ryanair applied for slots for summer 2023 but they have disappeared from the ACL report and aren’t there for winter either!
Was previously served by Flybe until around 2019.
TUI have ski packages once weekly in the winter, but a 2/3 weekly operation should be in place with once of loco’s!
Was previously served by Flybe until around 2019.
TUI have ski packages once weekly in the winter, but a 2/3 weekly operation should be in place with once of loco’s!