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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 17:50
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Looks like Air India has come to fruition. 4x weekly to BOM with 787-8.

Cathay also increasing to daily

The new based carrier is Norse. Daily flights to one destination initially. I would like to see MIA over JFK
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[QUOTE=laviation;11444838]Looks like Air India has come to fruition. 4x weekly to BOM with 787-8.

Air India currently is only a slot application which it has had in place for while !

I think it will come to fruition but not sure when ?

They have promised BHX at BOM service for a while too.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 18:12
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Originally Posted by laviation
The new based carrier is Norse. Daily flights to one destination initially. I would like to see MIA over JFK
Norse have announced MAN? Is there a link?
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 18:26
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Norse have announced MAN? Is there a link?
It’s not confirmed. They have applied for slots. Whether they launch is another question.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 18:55
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It’s not confirmed. They have applied for slots. Whether they launch is another question.
Whether they’re still around to launch is another question.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 19:04
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Originally Posted by laviation
Aye. Flown through IAH with BA a couple of times - always been a swift transit through. Problem is United don't codeshare with Singapore on this route for some unkown reason...
Not unknown more simply they can not under fifth freedom rules.

They can however codeshare Houston - Singapore

Indeed Singapore put their code an several domestic routes beyond Houston

They can however interline.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 22:03
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Originally Posted by laviation
Looks like Air India has come to fruition. 4x weekly to BOM with 787-8.

Air India currently is only a slot application which it has had in place for while !

I think it will come to fruition but not sure when ?

They have promised BHX at BOM service for a while too.
Yes, Air India initially had slots for 4 x BOM & 3 x DEL for S23 at MAN.. Let's hope the BOM slots are activated this time although I wouldn't be too surprised if it won't be until S24 at the earliest. As a personal preference, it's a pity Virgin were never in a position to start the planned India services from MAN. However, AI is a Star Alliance partner so maybe something could be developed from that in terms of possible TATL connections, although I note Air India have been allocated T1 if they do start.


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Obviously a 10+ aircraft strong Virgin base would be vastly better than an array of carriers from around the world.
Now VS are in Skyteam the connection opportunities are well and truly there, they already serve ATL.
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Yea, we've never had problems before. And it could have been problematic as they were joining a longhaul flight in AMS, so the child was without her meds for more than 12 hours.

And I'm flying out from MAN T1 with EK tomorrow. I want to take a replacement NIMH battery for a drill. I know it's permitted by EK*, but the rules say it must be in hand luggage and not in the hold and I have no faith that Manchester security will allow it. I'm seriously considering switching from MAN as my usual route into the UK.

*https://www.emirates.com/uk/english/...-goods-policy/


Update in case anyone is interested. Security in T1 paid no attention whatsoever to the 65Wh NiMH battery which I drew their attention to. They should have confirmed that it had an acceptable capacity, there was no way to tell that from the glance at the outer packing and pass through the x-ray that it got. They were however fascinated by an unopened pack of chai late powder recently bought in Tesco. So, once again, I was delayed while they examined it minutely, questioned me on where it cane from, swabbed it and rescanned it. I am a very frequent traveller. With all due modesty, I'm pretty slick at presenting myself and my carry-on for security, and it is no exaggeration to say that I am never stopped for re-checking at security in any other airport.
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Originally Posted by double_barrel
Update in case anyone is interested. Security in T1 paid no attention whatsoever to the 65Wh NiMH battery which I drew their attention to. They should have confirmed that it had an acceptable capacity, there was no way to tell that from the glance at the outer packing and pass through the x-ray that it got. They were however fascinated by an unopened pack of chai late powder recently bought in Tesco. So, once again, I was delayed while they examined it minutely, questioned me on where it cane from, swabbed it and rescanned it. I am a very frequent traveller. With all due modesty, I'm pretty slick at presenting myself and my carry-on for security, and it is no exaggeration to say that I am never stopped for re-checking at security in any other airport.
It's stories like this that reaffirm my decision to avoid Manchester Airport following similar personal experiences
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Norse website earlier had MAN listed as an option with JFK, LAX and BKK as destinations. It's disappeared again now though...
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Originally Posted by eggc
Norse website earlier had MAN listed as an option with JFK, LAX and BKK as destinations. It's disappeared again now though...
They have Winter 2023 slots for a single daily flight somewhere.. I forsee JFK for that reason, and places like LAX, MIA and BKK may follow in Summer 2024

In other news.. Virgin going to announce a further two routes (seperate from LHRDXB and MANLAS).. one of these is obviously LHR-ICN, one can dream the other is MAN-LAX !

However it will likely be GRU given LATAM's relationship with Delta

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Old 3rd Jun 2023, 20:39
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Norse website earlier had MAN listed as an option with JFK, LAX and BKK as destinations. It's disappeared again now though...
Bangkok “ might” be simply a Norwegian connection via Oslo sold via the Dohop interline system .

Money would be on New York as an initial operation along with the similar and existing arrangements at Roissy, Berlin and Fiumicino.

A regular direct Bangkok would be outstanding through

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Old 3rd Jun 2023, 20:50
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Originally Posted by eggc
Norse website earlier had MAN listed as an option with JFK, LAX and BKK as destinations. It's disappeared again now though...
I doubt there's enough demand on JFK for 3 airlines, something would have to give
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Originally Posted by Logohu
I doubt there's enough demand on JFK for 3 airlines, something would have to give
MAN-NYC had DL/VS, AA, UA, TCX on the route only a couple of years ago.. that demand has not fully subsided..
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I always thought Norwegian were an obvious long haul candidate for MAN but the (well made) objection was Thomas Cook already had a good solid operation that did well. So Norwegian II (cos we all know that's what they are) would likely do well I think, based on a good price for the local market going on holiday. I think it's a great fit, hope it happens.
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Really unsure how accurate this is but here goes anyway....slot times are reported as 1855 outbound and 1155 inbound which is 17 hours away. Say 2 hour turnaround leaves aprox 15 hours for the return flight if my fag packet calculations and slot times are remotely correct and that is if they even actually use said slots. So where can you get to and from in 15 hours ? Rules a few possibilites out.

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…bearing in mind TCX did so well they went bust. Perhaps marginal bargain basement leisure long haul is not where its at. Perhaps Norse are different however…
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Originally Posted by eggc
Really unsure how accurate this is but here goes anyway....slot times are reported as 1855 outbound and 1155 inbound which is 17 hours away. Say 2 hour turnaround leaves aprox 15 hours for the return flight if my fag packet calculations and slot times are remotely correct and that is if they even actually use said slots. So where you can you get to and from in 15 hours ? Rules a few possibilites out.
I think anywhere east and north of Washington . Norse have started all of their bases with JFK so that is the obvious candidate
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Originally Posted by eggc
Norse website earlier had MAN listed as an option with JFK, LAX and BKK as destinations. It's disappeared again now though...
Originally Posted by eggc
Really unsure how accurate this is but here goes anyway....slot times are reported as 1855 outbound and 1155 inbound which is 17 hours away. Say 2 hour turnaround leaves aprox 15 hours for the return flight if my fag packet calculations and slot times are remotely correct and that is if they even actually use said slots. So where can you get to and from in 15 hours ? Rules a few possibilites out.
Could still be JFK with frame rotation and use of limited slots .
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