Coronavirus Impact on Air Travel
Any thoughts as to what the major carriers at English or UK airports will do in the first couple of weeks of November ? Carry on flying to avoid EU261 claims or stop everything abruptly from Thurs 05 November and claim force majeure ?
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So is there anything different between the latest lock down and the last lock down when most airports all but closed? Even Wizz at Luton shut down as one point and operated just 3 flights a day at other times but I think that was because European borders were also closed. This time it might be different allowing for rule breaches.
Once again people have been caught out. No doubt the likes of Ryanair will fly out empty aircraft and keep the money.
It is not a restriction on airlines, it is a restriction on passengers travelling other than for essential work. I am guessing that airlines will carry on flying (with some flights consolidated) and passengers will be pointed in the direction of their travel insurers if they can’t travel.
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Not an immunologist, not a specialist in infectious viruses but he used to teach nurses, not dissing his teaching career BUT his speciality is NOT viruses.
After watching one of his youtube spiels a lot of recent postings make sense, suggest turning him off for your personal well being.
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A govt decision to prevent people flying is not the fault of an airline, therefore EU261 I believe will not apply. No doubt there will be some who sue on that basis but Govt bans are not the fault of an airline. If CAA claims EU261 applies then likely will end up in court.
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It is not a restriction on airlines, it is a restriction on passengers travelling other than for essential work. I am guessing that airlines will carry on flying (with some flights consolidated) and passengers will be pointed in the direction of their travel insurers if they can’t travel.
This definition will depend on a Judge as they likely will view it differently. I doubt a Govt will want a judge to examine the whole legality behind making a decision like this. A single misstep will pretty much make their decision null and void will them likely to be sued by business for other losses.
Preventing people flying has a whole host of concerns on individual rights, if people wish to fly then let them, just impose conditions on them when they return like 14 day isolation paid for by them. This then stops being a "prevention of flying" issue but a public health issue on their return.
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Right so he posts on Youtube for an innate love of self publicity.............. oh wait he sells books as well.
Not an immunologist, not a specialist in infectious viruses but he used to teach nurses, not dissing his teaching career BUT his speciality is NOT viruses.
After watching one of his youtube spiels a lot of recent postings make sense, suggest turning him off for your personal well being.
Not an immunologist, not a specialist in infectious viruses but he used to teach nurses, not dissing his teaching career BUT his speciality is NOT viruses.
After watching one of his youtube spiels a lot of recent postings make sense, suggest turning him off for your personal well being.
I hope you will follow his advice and take your Vitamin D to improve our chances of reading your posts next year seeing you won’t be taking a vaccine.
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No foreign holidays or trips to second homes.
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b1482052.html
To travel on holiday anywhere abroad before early December will break the lockdown rules, and therefore you cannot go.
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1) To operate repatriation flights for those coming to the end of their holidays
2) To provide some service for those travelling on essential business
3) Foreign carriers who have already sold seats in their home market
4) Those airlines (and I’m thinking Ryanair) who will insist on operating flights to avoid paying compensation
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There are 4 reasons why some flights might operate
1) To operate repatriation flights for those coming to the end of their holidays
2) To provide some service for those travelling on essential business
3) Foreign carriers who have already sold seats in their home market
4) Those airlines (and I’m thinking Ryanair) who will insist on operating flights to avoid paying compensation
1) To operate repatriation flights for those coming to the end of their holidays
2) To provide some service for those travelling on essential business
3) Foreign carriers who have already sold seats in their home market
4) Those airlines (and I’m thinking Ryanair) who will insist on operating flights to avoid paying compensation
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What about people that don't live in England that are flying from an English Airport?
Prime example, many Welsh use Bristol.
When local lockdown was in place in Wales, CWL was still open for those counties not in lockdown and anyone in England to use, despite its local authority where CWL is being in lockdown. Citing people can use the Airport if they are not in lockdown provided travel to the Airport is direct.
Prime example, many Welsh use Bristol.
When local lockdown was in place in Wales, CWL was still open for those counties not in lockdown and anyone in England to use, despite its local authority where CWL is being in lockdown. Citing people can use the Airport if they are not in lockdown provided travel to the Airport is direct.
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I live in Wales, can I go on holiday in Wales or the rest of the UK?
No. Travelling within Wales for a holiday is not one of the permitted reasons to travel under the Regulations. It is also not a reasonable excuse to travel to the rest of the UK for a holiday during the firebreak period.This 4 nation approach shows the perils of devolved power. You just need to look at Spain to see how it doesn’t work particularly with their Covid response
Clearly some of the devilish detail is still being worked on, so it's to be expected that a number of aspects aren't entirely clear yet.
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What about people that don't live in England that are flying from an English Airport?
Prime example, many Welsh use Bristol.
When local lockdown was in place in Wales, CWL was still open for those counties not in lockdown and anyone in England to use, despite its local authority where CWL is being in lockdown. Citing people can use the Airport if they are not in lockdown provided travel to the Airport is direct.
Prime example, many Welsh use Bristol.
When local lockdown was in place in Wales, CWL was still open for those counties not in lockdown and anyone in England to use, despite its local authority where CWL is being in lockdown. Citing people can use the Airport if they are not in lockdown provided travel to the Airport is direct.
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He follows the science and provides the links to the verifiable reports. It is a shame that all you can do is insult him but then he is not an expert like you.
I hope you will follow his advice and take your Vitamin D to improve our chances of reading your posts next year seeing you won’t be taking a vaccine.
https://youtu.be/HxtddpoPMKo
I hope you will follow his advice and take your Vitamin D to improve our chances of reading your posts next year seeing you won’t be taking a vaccine.
https://youtu.be/HxtddpoPMKo
I notice you seem to want to make continuous personal attacks on people who refuse to agree to your version of events. That is sad.
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There are 4 reasons why some flights might operate
1) To operate repatriation flights for those coming to the end of their holidays
2) To provide some service for those travelling on essential business
3) Foreign carriers who have already sold seats in their home market
4) Those airlines (and I’m thinking Ryanair) who will insist on operating flights to avoid paying compensation
1) To operate repatriation flights for those coming to the end of their holidays
2) To provide some service for those travelling on essential business
3) Foreign carriers who have already sold seats in their home market
4) Those airlines (and I’m thinking Ryanair) who will insist on operating flights to avoid paying compensation
If a Govt refuses to allow you operate flights then said Govt cannot insist you pay compensation because of its actions. They can try it on but ultimately it will fail in court.
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All that happened yesterday was the announcement of a set of proposed measures that will be debated, and voted on, in Parliament on Wednesday.
Clearly some of the devilish detail is still being worked on, so it's to be expected that a number of aspects aren't entirely clear yet.
Clearly some of the devilish detail is still being worked on, so it's to be expected that a number of aspects aren't entirely clear yet.
Judges will be the ones who interpret the law or throw it out. I do hope all these new laws have sunset clauses.
